Bhutto Report: Musharraf planned to fix elections

[Adsos Letter]

Source: McClatchy Washington Bureau

NAUDERO, Pakistan — The day she was assassinated last Thursday, Benazir Bhutto had planned to reveal new evidence alleging the involvement of Pakistan's intelligence agencies in rigging the country's upcoming elections, an aide said Monday.

Bhutto had been due to meet U.S. Sen. Arlen Specter, R-Pa., and Rep. Patrick Kennedy, D-R.I., to hand over a report charging that the military Inter-Services Intelligence agency was planning to fix the polls in the favor of President Pervez Musharraf.


Lashari said the report claimed that U.S. aid money was being used to fix the elections. Ballots stamped in favor of the Pakistan Muslim League-Q, which supports Musharraf, were to be produced by the intelligence agencies in about 100 parliamentary constituencies.

Read more: http://www.mcclatchydc.com/homepage/story/24001.html

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Interesting...the report goes on to say that the Bhutto organization distrusted the Bush administration with this information, and wanted to share it with trusted political contacts, instead...so they picked Arlen Specter as a trusted contact?

And, once again, where does our aid money (yes OUR taxpayer dollars) end up?

[Lerkfish]

1. doesn't really pass my smell test

bhutto was prefferred over musharaff by the neocon junta.

it doesn't make sense she would have this proof and not trust the puppeteers.

[EFerrari]

8. Was she preferred? Maybe not. Maybe she was a lever they used

to negotiate with Musharraf. When has the junta ever backed even a half baked populist?

[pnorman]

11. "a half baked populist?"

Her party is a member party of the Socialist International: http://www.socialistinternational.org/2Members/who.html And here's the PPP webpage as linked from the Socialist International webpage: http://www.ppp.org.pk/

It was quite common during the Cold War, for the CIA and others to work closely with many Socialist parties throughout the world, although sometimes the parties were kept in the dark about their real "benefactors". I'll try to keep an open mind on this, but I have a REAL problem imagining the Neo-Cons playing that game.

pnorman

[EFerrari]

16. Yes, the party is networked but the family isn't. It's a dynasty.

And CIA would and has worked with anyone.

I don't pretend to know more about Pakistan than I do but, did you notice Bhutto reaching out to the democratizing elements already on the ground? I didn't. Neither did the Bush junta, for that matter, when in their infinite wisdom they decided to look to Bhutto in the first place.

These interventions seldom if ever turn out well. Remember Chalabi?

[MetaTrope]

18. Unless of course, the Bush administration delivered Bhutto to Musharaff as a Christmas present

So much easier to conduct for him to conduct an assassination inside his own country...

[EFerrari]

19. I'd go with that but Bush looked haggard the day he made his statement. n/t

[MetaTrope]

21. He seemed a little out of it on 9/11 too, got a massive facial bruise from a pretzel shortly after

Not that he has a conscience for these things to weigh upon...

[mac2]

22. Our President is a puppet

to the Bilderberg Group (emm world Mafia of old rich and greedy men wanting power).

[bearfan454]

24. I thought junior was with skull and bones nt

[mac2]

30. The Skull & Bones

Yale secret society of elite people in our govenment are Globalists and probably members of the Bilderberg Group.

I'm never supporting one again.

[davidinalameda]

39. next up on the History Channel

tinfoil hat conspiracy theories

[EFerrari]

23. I didn't take it as conscience but as a rare moment of realization

that his actions have consequences. Although it could have been a hangover, too.

[Myrina]

26. ... actually it makes perfect sense that she didn't trust them...

... she was a wise and seasoned politician who wanted to get back to lead her people ... if you have to accept a ride in the back of a garbage truck to get there, at least you're there and can carry on your own plans once you've arrived.


just because - and perhaps especially because - she knew the BFEE was greasing the wheels, doesn't mean she wasn't fully aware of what shakeoil salesmen they are.

[C_U_L8R]

2. If you want someone to trust...

you don't pick Arlen Friggin Spector

[Adsos Letter]

3. Well that's my point...somethin' aint right there...

:wtf:

[C_U_L8R]

4. At least old Arlen has progressed..

from Single Bullet Theory
to
No Bullet Theory
:beer:

[mac2]

13. Not right so it isn't

and in a way it is a warning to other leaders who oppose the "big head in the White House". Yes...me smells a rat too.

It is my opinion that this administration fights not for democracy but chaos and Fascism. Show me otherwise.

Impeach them.

"In politics, nothing happens by accident. If it happens, you can bet it was planned that way." F. D. R.

[humbled_opinion]

5. Specter needs to resign anyway why would anyone trust him?

[mac2]

14. The Congress is full

of traitors who look the other way when we are being robbed and ruined. People around the world are being murdered and losing their freedoms and way of life. How can a born American do this to us and be sane?

Is too much power a mental disease?

[FREEWILL56]

25. Agreed, as he went to Pakistan (who picked him to go and why?)

to help get evidence on election tampering there, while doing squat here about his own party's shananigans with election fraud.
:wtf:

[roamer65]

6. That's why they call him Busharraf in Pakistan.

[defendandprotect]

7. Only way r-w can "win" elections is thru steals --- what's new?

How many decades have we had of this in America --- ???

Who's investigating what's been happening here --- ???

[boricua79]

9. AHAH!

MOTIVE!

[MADem]

10. Yep, I AM sure I wanna recommend this thread.....

Lashari said the report claimed that U.S. aid money was being used to fix the elections. Ballots stamped in favor of the Pakistan Muslim League-Q, which supports Musharraf, were to be produced by the intelligence agencies in about 100 parliamentary constituencies.

[mac2]

15. The Bush administration is costing

us dearly. Is this why they have to steal so many billions?

[Snarkoleptic]

12. Putin decides he'd like to stay in power indefinitely.

Musharraf decides he'd like to stay in power indefinitely.
Bush...

[mac2]

17. Putin is just another

corrupt politician ruining his country. Emmm like Bush?

I read an article about how the Russian elite stole their power and robbed the people destroying it using Communism ideology. Russian democracy brought a different face but not a different way of life for the average Russian.

The only way to have a democracy any where is to have a lawful administration who is held accountable to the people. That isn't happening since the Empire Builders of old are back on stage all around the world.

The leader of the "free world" has let down not only his country but is responsible for the tyranny in others.

[pretzel4gore]

27. remember, under czars, Russia had less then 10k miles

of railways! It was almost as backward technologically in the year 1900 as biblical Israel was. Tolstoy and Dosteyovski and Gogol etc all described serfs who shared living space with their cattle, to keep warm; Joe Stalin's grandfather was sold away, and ceased to exist for Stalin's family- could that have affected his psyche? It's misleading to suggest life was ok before the 'Soviets' (meaning working people) MADE things better, at terrible cost in bloodshed, and opposed by all the world's powerful. THe US never even recognised the USSR until 1934, with fascism taking over Europe. Consider that the French Revolution (which the French people still celebrate) despite the carlyles and dickens and 'scarlet pimpernels' etc (iow anti revolutionary propaganda)...consider that Dickens is thought of as a sympathiser to the poor, yet he feared and hated the very idea of working people, or poor people, dominating anything (see tale of two cities, madam lefarge etc). The Soviet Union went from a police slave state where a toothache or minor cut infection often meant death for most Russians, where child mortality was an never ending holocaust, with almost surreal suffering, where the population was totally illiterate (and remember, czarist Russia was an empire!) yet by 1940 Russia was to field the largest, most vicious military ever seen in history; Russia had passed north america in railway miles, itr produced more steel then the USA. The former USSR has suffered losses almost impossible to wrap a mind around, yet it eliminated illiteracy, modernised medical coverage for its entire population, ended famine forever, put men into space, and stared down the racial supremeists of britain/usa! The USSR succeeded on some level, until the heart went out of it (the revolution) and the proof of their success is the way 'anti communism' is equated as good, as patriotic, neverminfd history or facts etc! george bush junyer epitomises what the revolution was fighting AGAINST. So, the revolution's dead. bush won. Get over it, but don't let bush and foxnews tell you what to think...they're cheap liars, murdering rapo thugs
bloodsuckers on a corpse

[mac2]

31. A member of the Soviet Union

told me the Russians sucked everything out of her country to profit their own. Yes..they grew strong at the expense of other countries. When they sucked them dry, they had no other means of keeping their economy going. It was a failed system. East Germany was left in ruins with their enviornment gone.

Her country was a member of the Soviet block. During WWII they moved in and never left. She thought them lazy and cruel.

She was a PHD who came here on a summer research exchange before the Soviet Union (Empire of unending war who went broke for awhile)broke up. Her personal savings in the bank had been taken twice by them to pay for wars, debt, etc.

You are right. They are just cheap liars, murdering rapo thugs. It has little to do with "Communism" or "Democracy". Those are only words used to unite the people for hate or cause.

I lost contact with her but think about how she suffered so many years under oppression from the elite Empire Builders.

A lesson was not learned by our leaders. Seems we may be on the same path of bankruptcy and tyranny with our "unending war" driven leaders.

[pretzel4gore]

42. anyway, the article you read was nonsense

anybody can say anything. the Russian 'elite' had its genetics altered by Stalin- no question he killed like few men in history. Yet you said the Russian elite used 'communism' ideology to steal from the people! It defies understanding how the very brutality Stalin used against the Russian people, and which anyone who wants to defend the USSR must confront, yet for your arguments sake Stalin's victims ie the 'Russian elite' suddenly are operating on their own motives? Too much has been said about the USSR that can now be seen in the light of the neoncon defrauding of America: if that's how they treat their own people, using lies and exploiting gullibility, then maybe they (rightwing liars) also were demonising the USSR from the beginning? Your friend, from eastern europe (where Jewish pogroms were a shameful part of the normal history) said she thought the Russians were 'lazy and stupid'! For someone obviously well educated to say such a thing- well the death camps were run by opera buffs (re: hans frank)
I just wish people would understand that the Revolution was good, and necessary, but it took place in a world where powerful people will never rest until every working person hates and fears every other working person...had the Germans not used Lenin to get Russia outta WW1, had the February Revolution prevailed, and the bolsheviks never got control, think of how different history would have been? Yet it's so much easier to just say the 'commies' were evil

[mac2]

20. President Musharraf

visited the US not long ago to discuss his keeping power\terrorist attack I bet. Please Georgie help me. The people hate me and are rebelling.

What is that on Musharraf's head? A bad hair piece? What does he have under there?

Spector acts like such a world wise politician when in the end Bush always gets his way. Whose fooling who?

[JerseygirlCT]

28. Well, you know, now that we've perfected the art of rigging

elections, I guess maybe we can export *that*.

[mac2]

32. When Putin visited Bush

was he telling him how to rig elections? He looked him in the eye and knew what he had to do to keep power at that ranch in Texas?

"It's not how you count the votes but who counts them that matters." Joseph Stalin

In this country the media giants count the final votes and picks the winner. You had to know that after the 2000 media "dog and pony show" of the election.

After the 2000 debacle and stolen election by the Supremes, the Congress brought the CEO of the major media corporations before the people at hearings so it would never happen again. They promised they would never influence the election again. You bet the CEOs committed purgery and the court RWers treason!!

[JerseygirlCT]

35. Oh yeah.

I get teased (to say the least) about it often, but I'm absolutely convinced that things were not on the up and up, either in 2000 or in 2004 -- probably our margin was just too big to overcome with cheating in 2006, too.

Wonder where it all leads, you know?

[mac2]

38. If it weren't for the last minute announcement by the DLC

leaders in IL and around the country just before the election about another amnesty, we would have won a comfortable majority. In IL they refused funds and help for Progressive Democrats who apposed the war. Instead we have a majority in Congress but we didn't have enough votes to get anything passed or filibustered. Was that on purpose? You bet.

[Hosnon]

33. Good grief. I suppose the losses of 2006 were a ploy to fool us all into

thinking that elections are not rigged...

Maybe they'll overplay their hand and give us the White House in 2009!

[JerseygirlCT]

36. I guess we can hope. Either that, or make sure we have such

resounding majorities that even their games won't work.

[mac2]

40. We are left to pick up the debt, war, bad economy, etc.

just like President Clinton after crook and liar President Bush, Sr. They walk away with our democracy and our treasury without punishment just like after Nixon. They are the same people. I'm getting pretty sick of it.

I have trouble with Bush, Clinton, Bush, and then another Clinton. What's next another Bush? One can only speculate they planned it all.

[whistle]

29. No surprises there regarding either Musharraf or Bush

[TeamJordan23]

34. Elements of Musharraf's political party had Benazir killed.

To save their power and riches. Also, many of them have ties to Islamic militant groups who they could have contracted (aka Paid) to carry out the attack.

[tom_paine]

37. Like the Good Bushies, Musharraf loathes pretending to have elections, but he pretends anyway

because he HAS to. It's the New Totalitarianism.

[Junkdrawer]

41. CNN, CBS, etc. have copies, but I can't find one online...

Perhaps a British paper has a copy? :shrug:

[Manifestor_of_Light]

43. Anybody hear Malloy or Hartmann on Thurs & Fri Nights?

Malloy on Thursday (12/20) and Thom Hartmann on Friday quoted Bhutto (12/21) in two bombshells:

1) An Arabic news agency on Dec. 26, 2001 said "Osama Bin Laden is dead".

and

2)On Sir David Frost's program on Al Jazeera on November 2, 2007, Ms. Bhutto said there were three men who were out to assassinate her and one was Omar Saeed Hussein "the man who murdered Osama Bin Laden". (Benazir Bhutto's words).

Frost completely missed this.