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DeepModem Mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-29-07 03:49 PM
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TIME Carries Correction on Hotly Disputed Joe Klein Column -- And So Does 'Chicago Tribune'
Source: Editor&Publisher

By E&P Staff
Published: November 29, 2007

NEW YORK A column by regular Joe Klein in last week's issue of TIME magazine, blasting the Democrats' version of a Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA) bill, has earned a correction today in both that magazine -- and the Chicago Tribune, where excerpts also ran.

The column drew immediate criticism from Salon.com blogger Glenn Greenwald, and then others, several days ago. Klein, under persistent pressure since, backtracked to some extent in recent days, offering repeated updated clarifications, which critics also deemed inadequate. Finally he wrote, "I have neither the time nor legal background to figure out who's right." Now the next issue of Time magazine, due out Friday, runs a correction of sorts that Greenwald and others may still find lacking as it suggests the factual matter is under dispute. The Chicago Tribune, however, which carried Klein's column, ran a full-fledged, unqualified correction, today.

The correction at the end of Klein's column reads in full:

"Correction: I was wrong to write last week that the House Democratic version of the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA) would require a court approval of individual foreign surveillance targets. The bill does not explicitly say that. Republicans believe it can be interpreted that way, but Democrats don’t. To read the disputed section of the bill, go to time.com/fisa."

Here's the Tribune correction:

"A Time magazine essay by Joe Klein that was excerpted on the editorial page Wednesday incorrectly stated that the House Democratic version of the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act would require a court approval of individual foreign surveillance targets. It does not."

Among other criticisms of past Time clarifications on this column, Greenwald has written: "What Klein actually wrote was that the bill would 'require the surveillance of every foreign-terrorist target's calls to be approved by the FISA court' and thus 'would give terrorists the same legal protections as Americans.' What's the point of correcting Klein's false statements if they can't even honestly summarize what he actually wrote?" Klein had blasted the Demcrats' bill: "In the lethal shorthand of political advertising, it would give terrorists the same legal protections as Americans. That is well beyond stupid."

Read more: http://www.editorandpublisher.com/eandp/news/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1003679176
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-29-07 03:53 PM
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1. "...well beyond stupid."
Edited on Thu Nov-29-07 03:53 PM by depakid
That sums Klein up well.
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brentspeak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-29-07 03:54 PM
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2. So does this men Time will dump Klein and his Georgetown weenie circuit columns?
Unfortunately, not on your life.
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Catshrink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-29-07 04:30 PM
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4. I haven't seen a Bill Kristol column for a while...
I hope they dumped him. That guy is just simply bat shit crazy.
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shain from kane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-29-07 03:57 PM
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3. The primary color is RED, in the face.
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sharp_stick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-29-07 04:36 PM
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5. I cancelled my Time subscription
because of Klein and that most disgusting John Cloud cover"girl" piece on ann coulter.
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Beetwasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-29-07 04:50 PM
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6. Time's "Correction" Is Weasely "He Said, She Said" BULLSHIT
Might as well write: "Repubs believe the sky is fucia, Dems believe it's blue." All in the name of "balance". Time propoganda fuckwits.
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Orsino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-29-07 06:35 PM
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13. It's almost a repetition. Certainly not a retraction.
Call it a refinement designed to cushion Klein's apparently gold-plated ass.
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Zorra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-29-07 05:01 PM
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7. "Oh, what a tangled web we weave, when first we practice to deceive."
Only problem is, RWers don't have the wherewithal to understand what that phrase means.
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CreekDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-29-07 05:07 PM
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8. He blogged about it three times before quoting the legislation he was referring to
That's absolutely unacceptable. No doubt he hadn't read any of it.
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Supersedeas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-29-07 05:46 PM
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12. right wing 'journalistic'/propogandist tactics
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-29-07 05:11 PM
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9. Am I missing something-WHY wouldn't they have the same legal rights?
Are we not able to convict terrorists? Does this have to do with all those plants from a third rate law school like Regent?
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mtnester Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-29-07 05:34 PM
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10. Wait Wait, don't lie to me...I choose WEASEL
I miss that game
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AX10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-29-07 05:37 PM
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11. Joe Klein is an establishment mule. He knew very well...
what he was writing about. Time Magazine makes a good fire starter.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-29-07 10:53 PM
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14. Does joe klein have any time
to do any fact checking? Does he just phone it in from his barstool?
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UpInArms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-29-07 11:20 PM
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15. Joe Klein is why we cancelled our Time subscription
and we wrote to Time when we cancelled (approx 2 yrs ago) and told them why.

Screw them and the horse Klein rode in on.

Never another penny for them or their tripe.
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-30-07 12:29 AM
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16. What if they ARE Americans?
They must be, mustn't they? Since it's Americans who are under surveillance by this government? And every overseas call, say to India to find out why your computer doesn't work, is carte blanche to examine every inch of an American's life?

It's AMERICANS who have no protection under these laws.
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BenDavid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-30-07 12:42 AM
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17. This is the kind of stuff we all here at the DU should be doing if
we find something that reads wrong or is just plain wrong from the national press mediawhores. Write to whomever then let us know and we all will join in and write and then maybe we can get the right stuff out there.

Ben David
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calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-30-07 12:46 AM
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18. If only I could recommend a single post...
KICK KICK KICK KICK KICK KICK KICK KICK KICK KICK KICK!!!!!!!!!
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