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UpInArms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-20-07 10:14 AM
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U.S. prison system a costly and harmful failure: report
Source: Reuters

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The number of people in U.S. prisons has risen eight-fold since 1970, with little impact on crime but at great cost to taxpayers and society, researchers said in a report calling for a major justice-system overhaul.

The report on Monday cites examples ranging from former vice-presidential aide Lewis "Scooter" Libby to a Florida woman's two-year sentence for throwing a cup of coffee to make its case for reducing the U.S. prison population of 2.2 million -- nearly one-fourth of the world's total.

It recommends shorter sentences and parole terms, alternative punishments, more help for released inmates and decriminalizing recreational drugs. It said the steps would cut the prison population in half, save $20 billion a year and ease social inequality without endangering the public.

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More than 1.5 million people are now in U.S. state and federal prisons, up from 196,429 in 1970, the report said. Another 750,000 people are in local jails. The U.S. incarceration rate is the world's highest, followed by Russia, according to 2006 figures compiled by Kings College in London.

Read more: http://www.reuters.com/article/newsOne/idUSN1841666120071119?sp=true



Mods: I am 3 hours out on the time limit, but thought this was important news that should be read by many.

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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-20-07 10:19 AM
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1. It is important! K&R!
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ixion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-20-07 10:21 AM
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2. yep, and many of those who have had their lives ruined by our prison system
are non-violent recreational drug users (read: pot smokers) who were never a danger to society, yet they had their lives ruined just the same by the stupid WoD. :grr:

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Trillo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-20-07 01:22 PM
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14. Lives ruined because they could be ruined by powerful folks?
Ain't life, liberty, and pursuit of Happiness grand? Just watch out when the other guy's Happiness is created by taking yours away.
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grahamhgreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-20-07 10:28 AM
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3. It's part of the 'War of Terror', now....
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-20-07 10:37 AM
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4. Do not question our National Religion
Violence, Revenge and Punishment are the order of the day, and anyone who practices love and kindness and forgiveness and reconciliation is just marking themselves as weak, inviting further depradations by the forces of Evil and Chaos. Let's all get guns, because that will make us safer when anyone who steps out of line can be liable to catch a bullet. Let's try 8 year olds before they become Super Predators. We've locked up 1.5 million people and we're not safe yet? Then let's lock up 5 millions or 10 millions. That will make us safe.

We just had a story this last week in Portland. A man shot the man behind the counter in the course of the robbing the store was being sentenced, and he's going away for a long time. The family of the man behind the counter (who survived the shooting, but will be on a ventilator for the rest of his days) gave the shooter a Bible, and told him that they would be praying for him. They also urged the shooter to pray for the man he shot and his family. The local news folks truly didn't know what to make of the situation. They know what to do when a victim's family screams and hollers, but this caught them totally off guard.
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happyslug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-21-07 02:02 AM
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21. Damn Christianity, hard religion to follow, easy to month.
Here a family had a choice, demand blood or practice Jesus command to love your enemies. The present unofficial state religion (Corporatism) of the US demand blood sacrifices. Christ ask we try to live together and help each other, a concept foreign to corporatism.
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lildreamer316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-20-07 10:38 AM
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5. Can't anyone see this is just another corporate business?
Many of the systems are privatized, and everything costs. Recently, my husband had to spend one day a week (30 days) for a DUI charge. We found out very quickly that he could not call me from jail unless I paid for a calling card -$25 initially, and then money each time he called also. We would have spent over $100 a month or more to allow him to talk to me once a week.
I can't imagine what the below-poverty level families of prisoners who are there for years have to do.
Also, the food is HORRIBLE; I would feed my husband before he went in, and he would barter for things from the commissary. The prisoners also have to get money from relatives to get things from the commissary - a COMB or semi-decent toothbrush is a common purchase, as well as palatable snacks that DO NOT have salt peter like the food.

Get the idea? It's ALL ABOUT THE MONEY. NOT about the crime.
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NorthernSpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-20-07 10:45 AM
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6. we've developed a gulag mentality...
Mass imprisonment -- much of it for things that arguably shouldn't be crimes at all -- has become a form of social engineering, whereby communities deemed likely to produce dissidents are systematically scrutinized, disrupted, and sabotaged by the police state apparatus. I'm quite sure that this is the real intent of the so-called "War On Drugs".

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OneBlueSky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-20-07 10:52 AM
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7. is there ANYTHING in this country that isn't a "costly and harmful failure?" . . .
now it's the prison system, but that's just the latest addition to an ever-expanding list that includes the election system, the healthcare system, the homeland security system, the veterans affairs system, the economic system, the environmental "protection" system, the pure food and drug system, the pharmaceutical system, the legal system, the agricultural system, the transportation system, the infrastructure system, the "diplomatic" system, the war-making system, the energy system, the monetary system, the banking and credit system . . . and on, and on, and on, and on, and on, ad infinitum . . .

EVERYTHING in this country is FUBAR -- Fucked Up Beyond All Recognition! . . . and the cause of all this, the absolute bottom line, is a capitalist system based entirely on class, inequality, greed, and unconscionable profit at the expense of everything else -- ethics, morality, legality, the Constitution, social justice, equality, the land, the air, the water, our heritage and, most of all, people like you and me . . .

don'tcha think it's time that we elected someone who could and would actually attack these dysfunctional systems at their core -- and DO something about fixing them? . . . before everything falls apart completely? . . . PLEASE!?! . . .
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noonwitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-20-07 01:02 PM
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12. Head Start
It's one of the best government programs ever. The only problem is that it prepares kids for schools that aren't even close to the same quality as that program.
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Zorra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-20-07 10:55 AM
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8. "... a marijuana smoker is arrested every 38 seconds in America."
Edited on Tue Nov-20-07 10:58 AM by Zorra
Washington, DC: Police arrested a record 829,625 persons for marijuana violations in 2006, according to the Federal Bureau of Investigation's annual Uniform Crime Report, released today. This is the largest total number of annual arrests for pot ever recorded by the FBI. Marijuana arrests now comprise nearly 44 percent of all drug arrests in the United States.

"These numbers belie the myth that police do not target and arrest minor marijuana offenders," said NORML Executive Director Allen St. Pierre, who noted that at current rates, a marijuana smoker is arrested every 38 seconds in America. "This effort is a tremendous waste of criminal justice resources that diverts law enforcement personnel away from focusing on serious and violent crime, including the war on terrorism."

Of those charged with marijuana violations, approximately 89 percent, 738,915 Americans were charged with possession only. The remaining 90,710 individuals were charged with "sale/manufacture," a category that includes all cultivation offenses, even those where the marijuana was being grown for personal or medical use. In past years, roughly 30 percent of those arrested were age 19 or younger.

http://norml.org/index.cfm?Group_ID=7370

The entire US justice system is now a huge corporate-type entity geared toward making profit on the surveillance and control of citizens. The "War on Drugs" is nothing more than an excuse for the government to hire far more police than would be necessary if there were sane policies regarding the use of drugs, particularly marijuana.

If the police, and the justice system in general, stopped arresting, prosecuting, and imprisoning people for involvement with marijuana, half of the people that work in the prison industry would be out of a job. And the police could spend far more of their time protecting society from violent criminals rather than busting Uncle Joe for smoking a joint in the parking lot of the Red Dog Saloon.

Personally, I don't use drugs; they make me feel like crap. But our current drug laws and policies are glaringly ineffective and are a huge waste of tax money while at the same time creating an enormous amount of unnecessary human misery. Therefore, even though I don't have any involvement with drugs whatsoever, I am negatively affected by drug laws and the prison industry in a very extreme way.

But ineffectiveness, waste, and incompetence seem to be the hallmarks of the Bu*h/republican approach to governing in their lemming drive toward establishing a fascist idiocracy. So until we vote the republicans out and establish a solid Democratic majority in Congress, and get a Dem in the WH, we will continue to senselessly throw people and money into this giant black holw that is the US prison industry.
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ixion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-20-07 04:58 PM
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19. I whole-heartedly agree with most of what you say...however
the closing line in your post: please note that Clinton did NOT end the so-called 'war' on drugs. In fact, he escalated it.

It would be great to see the Dems champion this cause, however.
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boricua79 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-20-07 11:07 AM
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9. example of the failure of our justice system
No rehabiliation, no money for education, no money for social programs = higher number of inmates, higher rates of return to prison, less opportunities for people on the outside.

It's a vicious cycle.

but, by all means, let's keep the "zero tolerance" game up.
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Nutmegger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-21-07 02:18 AM
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22. Ugh, I hate that term.
"Zero tolerance" ... :puke:

BTW, Welcome to DU! :toast:
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soothsayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-20-07 11:07 AM
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10. there was a thread on this yesterday (here's the link)
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windoe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-20-07 12:59 PM
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11. Dismantle the war/gulag machine & make the war profiteers pay~
Edited on Tue Nov-20-07 01:04 PM by windoe
and think of what that money could be used for. We could rebuild our infrastructure, build green power plants, build desalienation plants for water useage, universal healthcare and education, housing for the NO refugees, fund research into sustainability, and help small farmers. I believe real justice would be to see the companies' profits from this illegal coup and war pay for Iraqi restoration and to the veteran families.
If this is about money then by Gods this must be their punishment, to pay for damages done.
Yes, I have a dream. Call it a hallucination, but it is what keeps me going these days. Good people have got to turn the tide here.
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Trillo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-20-07 01:14 PM
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13. The report this is presumably based upon says
the critical year, the beginning of the bubble, was 1975. I find that curious, as that's about when CEO pay is alleged to have started bubbling, SoCal real estate prices soared, congress took our ownership of DNA away from each of us, etc. (I'm sure there's a whole long list of things)

What was it about the 1975 timeline that caused so much greed and authoritarianism to intersect economically, politically, and socially?
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duhneece Donating Member (967 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-20-07 01:49 PM
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15. Amen!
My son was 'waiting for a bed' at a rehab facility when he used and was caught. Because of Mandatory Minimums, he is now in a private prison in Hobbs, NM for at least 4 years. Then, he will probably have to do 7 years in OK for a marijuana charge. All non-violent crimes that took from no one. I am beginning to speak out in my little, conservative community. Also, our NM NAACP just added the 'treatment vs incarceration' to their 4 resolutions to take to our state legislators.
Bless us all.
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Up2Late Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-20-07 01:51 PM
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16.  But if we "reform" the U.S. Prison system, How will we replace the nearly Free Prison Labor!?!
And I'm NOT talking about stamping License Plates either, check out the Available Products of (I'm NOT making this up)

UNICOR Federal Prison Industries!



<http://www.unicor.gov/>

<http://www.unicor.gov/office_furniture/overview/concerto.cfm>





<http://www.unicor.gov/information/publications/pdfs/furniture/CATA501.pdf>



<http://www.unicor.gov/office_furniture/overview/overture/overture_executive/index.cfm>
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hootinholler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-20-07 03:10 PM
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17. Sold only to government agencies.
Not like the old days when prison labor was contracted out to the highest bidder.

-Hoot
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Up2Late Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-20-07 10:35 PM
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20. Where do you see that? This is what I found, which looks like a loop-hole big enough to drive...
...a fully loaded 18 wheeler though:

Note: By law, UNICOR may only sell its products to Federal departments, agencies, government institutions, and their authorized contractors or representatives.

<https://www.unicor.gov/shopping/ViewCat_m.asp?iStore=FED>

<http://www.unicor.gov/shopping/viewCat_m.asp?iStore=OFC>

But regardless, think about all the small to medium size businesses that these 108 Prison Industry Factory's are probably running out of business in the various communities they are located.


...Like other government agencies, UNICOR is seeking new ways to be forward thinking. We have invested and expanded our e-commerce technology to support our On-Line Shopping Store. Today when a customer places an order on line, the order goes directly to one of our 108 factories, just like many private sector fortune 100 companies. The customer has a new edge of knowing when they place an order on-line. It is immediately scheduled for manufacturing and production....

<http://www.unicor.gov/information/orderingoptions.cfm?navlocation=Ordering>
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flashl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-20-07 03:44 PM
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18. Prison labor on the rise in US
8 May 2000

US trade union officials have repeatedly denounced China for its use of prison labor, as part of the AFL-CIO's campaign against the normalization of trade relations with China. At the same time, however, the union officials have virtually been silent about the huge growth of prison labor in the United States.

There are presently 80,000 inmates in the US employed in commercial activity, some earning as little as 21 cents an hour. The US government program Federal Prison Industries (FPI) currently employs 21,000 inmates, an increase of 14 percent in the last two years alone. FPI inmates make a wide variety of products—such as clothing, file cabinets, electronic equipment and military helmets—which are sold to federal agencies and private companies. FPI sales are $600 million annually and rising, with over $37 million in profits.

In addition, during the last 20 years more than 30 states have passed laws permitting the use of convict labor by commercial enterprises. These programs now exist in 36 states.

Prisoners now manufacture everything from blue jeans, to auto parts, to electronics and furniture. Honda has paid inmates $2 an hour for doing the same work an auto worker would get paid $20 to $30 an hour to do. Konica has used prisoners to repair copiers for less than 50 cents an hour. Toys R Us used prisoners to restock shelves, and Microsoft to pack and ship software. Clothing made in California and Oregon prisons competes so successfully with apparel made in Latin America and Asia that it is exported to other countries.

Inmates are also employed in a wide variety of service jobs as well. TWA has used prisoners to handle reservations, while AT&T has used prison labor for telemarketing. In Oregon, prisoners do all the data entry and record keeping in the Secretary of State's corporation division. Other jobs include desktop publishing, digital mapping and computer-aided design work.

US employers have pointed to the tight labor market for their interest in employing prisoners. But the other advantages, though not stated publicly, are obvious. The prison system can provide an “ideal” workforce: employers do not have to pay health or unemployment insurance, vacation time, sick leave or overtime. They can hire, fire or reassign inmates as they so desire, and can pay the workers as little as 21 cents an hour. The inmates cannot respond with a strike, file a grievance, or threaten to leave and get a better job.

Prisoners who refuse to work under these conditions are labeled “uncooperative” and risk losing time off for “good behavior,” as well as privileges such as library access and recreation. In one case, two prisoners at California's Richard J. Donovan Correctional Facility were put in solitary confinement after a local television station broadcast their complaints about working for C.M.T., a T-shirt manufacturer that required them to put in 60 days of unpaid “training.”

The growth of prison labor has directly led to the destruction of other workers' jobs. For example, Lockhart Technologies, Inc. closed its plant in Austin, Texas, dismissing its 150 workers so that it could open shop in a state prison in Lockhart. The prisoners assemble circuit boards for industrial giants such as IBM, Compaq and Dell. Lockhart is not required to pay for health or any other benefits. The company must pay the prison the federal minimum wage for each laborer, but the inmates get to keep only 20 percent of that.

Linen service workers have lost their jobs when their employer contracted with the prison laundry to do the work. Recycling plant workers have lost their jobs when prisoners were brought in to sort through hazardous waste, often without proper protective gear. Construction workers have lost their jobs when the contractors were assigned to build an expansion of their own prison—essentially making the chains that bind them.

...

The struggle over prison labor has a long history in the US. In the early 1800s, group workshops in prisons replaced solitary handicrafts, and the increased efficiency allowed prisons to be self-supporting. Entire prisons were leased out to private contractors, who literally worked hundreds of prisoners to death. Manufacturers who lost work to prison contractors opposed the leasing system, but only with the growth of the union movement came effective opposition to prison labor. One of the most famous clashes, the Coal Creek Rebellion of 1891, took place when the Tennessee Coal, Iron and Railroad locked out their workers and replaced them with convicts. The miners stormed the prison and freed 400 prisoners, and when the company filled up work with more prisoners, the miners burned the prison down.


Remember, supposedly, these people are here because they are UNPRODUCTIVE, lack education and skills. Once out of prison, many can't get jobs because of their record.

Yesterday there are reports identifying states that are now sending younger people to jail FOR LIFE. And, there are plans to DUMP the old and infirmed inmates back into communities.
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Nutmegger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-21-07 02:18 AM
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23. Good news!
The Prison Industrial Complex is alive and well!

God Bless Amurika!
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Selatius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-21-07 03:13 AM
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24. Good luck with the decriminalizing of recreational drugs like marijuana.
That's something I've seen few Democrats in power support.
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eridani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-21-07 03:52 AM
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25. Dennis Kucinich is the only presidential candidate who has used the term--
--prison-industrial complex on his website.

Someone else (can't find the source right now) said that the American prison system is the GI bill in reverse--a vast expensive project to deskill the population.
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