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BradBlog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-07-07 04:51 PM
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BREAKING: Wexler Will Urge House Judiciary Committee to 'Schedule Impeachment Hearings Immediately'
Edited on Wed Nov-07-07 05:02 PM by BradBlog
Source: BRAD BLOG, AFTERDOWNINGSTREET

BREAKING: Wexler Will Urge House Judiciary Committee to 'Schedule Impeachment Hearings Immediately'
Letter Calling for Action Sent to Constituents After Kucinich Resolution to Impeach Cheney is Referred to Committee

Says 'Vice President Cheney must answer for his deceptive actions in office'

As reported in full by David Swanson, in the wake of yesterday's wild ride (and game of chicken) on the House floor concerning the privileged resolution filed by Rep. Dennis Kucinich (D-OH), calling for the Impeachment of Dick Cheney.

The following is from a letter sent to constituents today by Rep. Robert Wexler (D-FL), a member of the House Judiciary Committee, where the matter has been sent again.

Wexler is now calling for the committee "to schedule impeachment hearings immediately and not let this issue languish as it has over the last six months."...

FULL STORY: http://www.bradblog.com/?p=5263

Read more: http://www.bradblog.com/?p=5263
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-07-07 04:55 PM
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1. wish this was an AP story
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RufusEarl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-07-07 05:01 PM
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2. Perhaps it will be in a few days, we can only hope!
Peace!
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BradBlog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-07-07 05:02 PM
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3. Give 'em time. We always beat 'em to it! :-)
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thoughtanarchist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-07-07 05:05 PM
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4. Shouldn't the judiciary committee run an investigation first?
With independant prosecutors and subpoenas and lots of evidence and media attention and stuff?
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lyonn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-07-07 05:42 PM
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9. It looks like that is what he is saying - suggesting
We need a poster with some smarts in this area to fill us in.
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ayeshahaqqiqa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-07-07 07:29 PM
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23. Media won't pay attention to this
they have their orders from Murdoch et al.
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Zhade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-07-07 08:31 PM
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27. Impeachment is an investigatory process. That's how it works.
NT!

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puebloknot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-07-07 09:40 PM
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38. Impeachment, by definition, is...
...running an investigation. Except that it isn't a criminal hearing, with independent prosecutors. After hearings to determine if there is enough evidence to hold a trial, it's voted on, on the floor of the House, if the Judiciary Committee sends it there. And if there's any spine left in the Congress, it's referred to the Senate for trial. With any luck, C-SPAN will cover it! Impeachment *is* first! If Bush and Cheney were found guilty in a Senate trial, *then* they could be removed from office, and the criminal trials could begin -- if there's any will, anywhere, to do that.

In our dreams, we can then hope for prosecutors and subpoenas and time in jail. Let's not even think about the fact that treason is punishable by the death penalty.

Some people have suggested that we should do what you are suggesting -- hold criminal trials first. But how ya gonna try a sitting pResident? That's a question. I'm not an expert, but if we can't even serve subpoenas on Condi and Bolton and Meiers, and have them honor them, how likely is it that Dubya would show up in court?
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zanne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-08-07 09:06 AM
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79. I'd be happy with a REAL investigation...
Something that would make Junior and his buddy Dick sit up and take notice. However, I doubt that it will happen.
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datavg Donating Member (287 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-07-07 11:50 PM
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51. Yes...
Edited on Thu Nov-08-07 12:03 AM by datavg
...and the fact that they haven't and don't plan to means Hoyer is gonna kill this in committee.

That's from the Washington Post.

There would have to be a special prosecutor, hearings, sworn testimony, a smoking gun...the works. There isn't any of that and there won't be.

This is about Kucinich going off on a bender to please the left wing of the party...and he's making some serious enemies in the process. Alcee Hastings said that he's nuts...flat out.

And if that weren't enough, he's constantly embarrassing the living shit out of his district and his state. Cleveland and NE Ohio are in the middle of the worst regional recession perhaps since the Great Depression. Crime in Cuyahoga county is getting out of line to the point where people are beginning to carry guns en masse. Entire neighborhoods on the east side of town have been essentially abandoned. Company after company has announced that it is moving operations south.

Guys, do you have any idea what's going to happen if this thing comes up for full debate in the House? Not only will it tear the Democratic caucus apart but it will also give Republicans the best opportunity they could hope for to say that all liberals are nuts.

This is why Hoyer and Pelosi want to kill this measure. They're smart, seasoned, experienced politicians. They fully understand that this is how conservatives ultimately win national elections and they want to keep it from getting out of hand. Even David Obey was quoted as saying the left wingers are completely out of hand...there was a piece on YouTube where he told his staff to keep those idiots away from him!

The Iowa caucuses are sixty days away...and that goofy little bastard can't keep his mouth shut. It reminds me of the shit he pulled thirty years ago in Cleveland. That city has never been the same.

This shit could cost us the House!

Does anyone here understand that?
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harpboy_ak Donating Member (437 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-08-07 12:11 AM
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53. Caving in and appearing weak is what hurts
Edited on Thu Nov-08-07 12:12 AM by harpboy_ak
This is why Hoyer and Pelosi want to kill this measure. They're smart, seasoned, experienced politicians. They fully understand that this is how conservatives ultimately win national elections and they want to keep it from getting out of hand.

This could cost us the House in 2008!

Does anyone here understand that?


What I understand is that we have a criminal dictatorship running the country, and Congress keeps giving in to Bush & Cheney's unconstitutional power grab, the acts that are the cause for an impeachment action.

Congress can prove that Cheney and Bush violated the law and their oaths of office. Even if the Senate doesn't convict them, the House needs to impeach them in order to ensure that ANY future President, no matter which party, can ever do it again.

It will NOT cost us the election. NOT taking action against the illegal searches, illegal use of the Justice Dept. for partisan use, and other illegal and traitorous actions of Bush & Cheney will continue to drive public opinion of Congress down, and taking action will improve Congress's ratings.

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datavg Donating Member (287 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-08-07 12:14 AM
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54. Not Only...
Edited on Thu Nov-08-07 12:18 AM by datavg
...will it cost us the election, it could cost us control of the House!

Do you know how much Electoral power is in southern states and how angry those people would become if their guy was impeached, just because the liberals had a hair up their ass?

Do you understand how much anger would be released if Fox News and talk radio are able to sell the idea that a bunch of liberal Yankees did this to a sitting president from the south in the middle of a goddamn war?

This is suicide for the Democratic party! Can't you see that?
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sce56 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-08-07 01:04 AM
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63. No it is not the Bush Admin is and allways has been a criminal operation for the war profiteers
You need to open your eyes and look around the evidence is overwhelming! I would say there is just one easily provable crime that was committed out of the VP office. The TREASONOUS outing of a CIA COVERT AGENT by Dick Cheney! Then the pardoning of Scooter with no time served. This is not mentioning the other crimes like ILLEGAL WIRE TAPS starting in Feb 2001 Before 9-11... Lies to congress exploitation of soldiers deaths with cover ups and outright lies see Pat Tillman's case.

As for how people feel the majority of the country 70%+ wants us out of Iraq and the hearings will disclose that they fixed the intelligence to go to war back in 2002 see http://www.afterdowningstreet.org/ Politicization of the Justice Dept. just yesterday Republicans admitted that was the problem there!

The list of crimes is very long get educated on the crimes once the hearings begin the truth will come out and be prepared for the biggest wag the dog scene ever and if you keep up the anti law stuff you are expounding go sign on to the freepers site.





http://www.georgewalkerbush.net/bush-nazilinkconfirmed.htm




Got Fascism Yet?
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arikara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-08-07 01:30 AM
Response to Reply #54
69. Oh for pete's sake
the Democratic party is suiciding themselves with their complicity and caving in.
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nealmhughes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-08-07 01:31 AM
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70. The impeachment DK is proposing is of Dick Cheney, who is not from the South.
Edited on Thu Nov-08-07 01:34 AM by nealmhughes
Nor is George Bush. He currently has a Texas address, went to school in New England and his family is from Rye and Connecticut by way of Ohio and Upstate NY, and NH.
The South is pretty po'ed over Katrina and Mr. Bush's California Vacation, the lack of Cheney, or even any Cabinet member until they decided to finally show up for photo ops in Gulfport and NOLA.
The South is not a monolithic voting block: it is like the USA only with sweet tea and a propensity to fry everything that can't be boiled first, and a decidedly non-nasal groups of accents. I hear some of us can read and write in English and French these days and they sell shoes down to the Wall Marks. Southern voters are more discerned by micro-analysis than by mega. Nashville and also Memphis are nothing like Knoxville or Chattonoga. Vidalia and Macon are nothing like Athens and Atlanta. Huntsville and Florence in Alabama are absolutely nothing like the mountains or Mobile and Montgomery. Birmingham is completely schizophrenic with the Intown and Southside solidly Democratic and the Eastern Suburbs and new suburbs solidly Republican. National and state wide elections in Bham are nearly 50/50.
It is like comparing Nassau County to Binghampton and Manhattan or the Bronx and saying that there are NY voters.

If anything destroys the Democratic Party, it will not be a righteous quest for truth and justice, it will be Business as Usual.

As for Cleveland's crappy economy: welcome to the club. We tanked here in 1979 when first Ford and then Reynolds Aluminum left in rapid succession. We have people driving 50 miles plus daily to work and are lucky to only have to go that far. We're lucky they don't have to drive to Nashville! But some do.
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rockybelt Donating Member (938 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-08-07 12:54 AM
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61. Understand?
Edited on Thu Nov-08-07 12:56 AM by rockybelt
He is embarrasing the shit out of his district and his state?
Having the courage to stand up to this fascist regime and call for the impeachment of a criminal vice president when he KNOWS that the powers that be are will come down on him with everything they have is, oh how do you say...PATRIOTIC?

The facts concerning Cheney's criminal activities are very well documented. He is absolutely afraid of the Constitution and the ramifications to him if his actions are brought into the daylight and seen by all Americans.

The very act of impeaching a sitting vice-president will capture the attention of the American people. Remember the Clinton impeachment? The big difference is that this is a legitimate impeachment that will have profound consequences around the world.

This is not some fucking game to be played with pundits keeping score as to who is "winning". This is the real fucking deal and ultimately it will determine what kind of government, democratic or fascist, that we, and our great grandchildren will be living under.
Do you not think that is worth the fight? If you do not, then as far as I am concerned, you can go straight to hell.
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rockybelt Donating Member (938 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-08-07 01:06 AM
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64. Understand?
Edited on Thu Nov-08-07 01:30 AM by rockybelt
He is embarrassing the shit out of his district and state?
Having the courage to stand up to this fascist regime and call for the impeachment of a criminal, war mongering vice-president when he KNOWS that the powers to be will be coming down on him with everything they have is, how do you say......PATRIOTIC?

The facts concerning Cheney's criminal activities are very well documented. Let me give you one.On the September 14, 2003 edition of Meet The Press in response to questions regarding his relationship with Halliburton, where from 1995 to 2000 he was employed as CEO, Vice President Cheney said, "Since I left Halliburton to become George Bush's vice president, I've severed all my ties with the company, gotten rid of all my financial interest. I have no financial interest in Halliburton of any kind and haven't had, now, for over three years."

FACTS:
As reported in October, 2005:

100,000 shares at $54.5000(vested), expire December 3, 2007
33,333 shares at $28,1250(vested), expires December 2, 2008
300,000 shares at $39.5000(vested), expire December 2, 2009

Deferred salary paid by Halliburton to Vice President Cheney in 2001: $205,298
Deferred salary paid by Halliburton to Vice President Cheney in 2002: $162,392
Deferred salary paid by Halliburton to Vice President Cheney in 2003: $178,437
Deferred salary paid by Halliburton to Vice President Cheney in 2004: $194,852
(Source: Raw Story, October, 2005-John Byrne)

Cheney continues to hold 433,333 Halliburton stock options, and receives a deferred salary of about $200,000 a year.

This is the LEAST that he has done to America and the Constitution.

He is absolutely afraid of the Constitution and the ramifications to him and this regime if his actions are brought to light for the whole world to see.

The very act of impeaching a sitting vice-president will capture the attention of the entire world. Bringing his criminal and treasonous activities out in the open will, I think, raise more than a few eyebrows.

Remember the Clinton impeachment and the press associated with that? Well, this is a LEGITIMATE impeachment that will have profound ramifications around the world. It will show the world that yes, we are serious about our democracy and we will fight to keep our democracy strong. This alone will further the cause of freedom and democracy than any illegal war of aggression can ever do.

This is not some fucking game for the pundits to play and for them to decide who is "winning". This is the real fucking deal and ultimately it will determine what kind of government, democracy or fascist, that we and our great grandchildren will be living under.

If you do not think that our democracy is worth fighting for, you can go straight to hell!
:bounce: :mad: :bounce: :mad: :bounce:
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Zhade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-08-07 01:22 AM
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66. So you're willing to let criminals walk for dubious political gains.
I don't know how you sleep at night, advocating such craven manipulative cowardice.

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countryjake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-08-07 03:40 AM
Response to Reply #51
73. So you supported the banks during the default?
Could you explain what you mean by "the shit he pulled" back then?

Enlighten, please!
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DutchLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-08-07 07:50 AM
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76. You're right. If we let impeachment rest, Fox and the MSM will certainly leave us alone...
:eyes:

Since when do the Democrats have to base their politics on what Fox says or does? Besides, the Dems can't ever win with Fox, no matter what they do. So they might as well impeach Cheney and Bush. Who cares what O'Reilly or Hannity are going to say? People who watch their shows are in the 28%, we can't convince them anyway. So impeach!
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JMDEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-08-07 04:43 PM
Response to Reply #51
87. Disagree completly, one of 158 posts...
The constitutional duty speaks loud and clear. Sorry if it inconvenient.
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rockybelt Donating Member (938 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-08-07 12:43 AM
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60. Investigation
There is no need for an investigation. The evidence is very clear and overwhelming against Cheney.
An investigation gives too much time to side-car this very important impeachment procedure.
For a representative to stand up and say DO IT NOW is very encouraging.
We need to keep the pressure up and help Dennis carry this through.
The people MUST stand up and make our voices heard. We are doing that and it MUST continue and gain momentum until there is an overwhelming tide of patriotism to enforce the Constitution and impeach this bastard!:bounce: :mad: :bounce: :mad: :bounce:
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high density Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-07-07 05:05 PM
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5. Impeach: Because it's a fun thing to do. NM
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AndyTiedye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-07-07 05:12 PM
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6. IMPEEEEEAAAAAACH!!!!!!
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SoFlaJet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-07-07 05:34 PM
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7. WOW-I just got a letter this morning from him
I think I wrote my rep Wexler about the Plame affair and my outrage and here he is today doing the right thing. Whenever there are calls to action to contact our reps I never have to-Robert Wexler ALWAYS does the right thing by us...
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Demeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-07-07 05:38 PM
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8. Pinch Me! I Think I'm Dreaming This!
If it's true, I want to be awake for it!
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IndyOp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-07-07 06:24 PM
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11. k...


Does that do it for you? I may need a pinch back if this actually goes anywhere tomorrow...

Geez - this certainly does motivate me to make another round of phone calls to D.C. tomorrow.
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drm604 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-07-07 05:52 PM
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10. Let's hope that something comes of this
but just because Wexler is calling for it doesn't mean that it will happen. We need to actively encourage all of the members of that committee to quickly move forward on this.
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Greeby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-07-07 06:27 PM
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12. Woot!
Extra helping of cocaine and hookers for Wexler! ;)
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Webster Green Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-07-07 10:34 PM
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44. LOL!
Excellent!:rofl:
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lovuian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-07-07 06:27 PM
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13. Well What Wexler is doing is putting pressure on the
House Judiciary committee to either step up to the plate or just let everybody know they are walking
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-07-07 06:49 PM
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15. Sheet or git off the pot!
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windoe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-07-07 06:40 PM
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14. I am holding myself in check.....
till they slap on the handcuffs
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calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-08-07 12:30 AM
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59. That is a very good visualization image! Welcome to DU!
Like it! Glad you're here! Visualize...
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OzarkDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-07-07 06:54 PM
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16. Is this guy sincere?
or is he trying to help the GOP ram it through committee with the intention of ridiculing Kucinich? Anyone know his record?
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OzarkDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-07-07 07:01 PM
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19. Answer to my own question
Wexler has a very good record on National Breast Cancer Coalition's legislative priorities during the last 4 sessions. They have a very tough legislative agenda and he has very high marks - only the most progressive Dems dedicated to health care score as high as he does.
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toadzilla Donating Member (814 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-07-07 06:56 PM
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17. be still my beating heart!
but does this actually mean anything?
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orleans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-07-07 07:00 PM
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18. i thought i heard on randi's show that conyers said he was too busy
Edited on Wed Nov-07-07 07:08 PM by orleans
to take it up.

TOO BUSY?

on edit
"House Judiciary Committee Chairman John Conyers Jr. (D-Mich.) agreed that it was not in Pelosi's interest to advance the articles of impeachment. "If she were to let this thing out of the box, considering the number of legislative issues we have pending . . . it could create a split that could affect our productivity for the rest of the Congress," Conyers told Fox News."

http://www.latimes.com/news/politics/la-na-impeach7nov07,0,2784849.story?coll=la-home-headlines

ah, from conyers spokesperson:
"The committee has a very busy agenda - over the next two weeks, we hope to pass a FISA bill, to vote on contempt of Congress citations, pass legislation on prisoner re-entry, court security and a variety of other very important items. We were surprised that the minority was so ready to move forward with consideration of a matter of such complexity as impeaching the Vice President. The Chairman will discuss today's vote with the committee members but it would seem evident that the committee staff should continue to consider, as a preliminary matter, the many abuses of this Administration, including the Vice President." - House Judiciary Committee Spokeswoman "
http://judiciary.house.gov/newscenter.aspx?A=880
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OzarkDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-07-07 07:03 PM
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20. His committee has a lot on its plate
a lot of it is up to the committee staffers; but if they were smart, the Dems would "outsource" a lot of committee grunt work like the GOP does.
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MissDeeds Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-07-07 07:23 PM
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22. Conyers said he's "too busy" to address impeachment?
That's like saying "I need to make the bed" when the house is burning down.
Jeezuz. These people need a reality check in how to prioritize.
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femrap Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-07-07 07:33 PM
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25. I was listening to Randi Rhodes today
and she was talking about Conyers and his comment, "I'm too busy to defend the Constitution." She thinks he is under BIG pressure NOT to impeach by Fancy Nancy and Voyeur Hoyer...they could take away his Chairmanship of the Judiciary Committee. He was on that Committee during Watergate. He knows these neocons have broken the law.


I think his comment was pure sarcasm!!!!
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AntiFascist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-08-07 04:13 PM
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86. EXACTLY....and K&R n/t
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BearSquirrel2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-07-07 09:58 PM
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41. What are they smoking ???



"House Judiciary Committee Chairman John Conyers Jr. (D-Mich.) agreed that it was not in Pelosi's interest to advance the articles of impeachment. "If she were to let this thing out of the box, considering the number of legislative issues we have pending . . . it could create a split that could affect our productivity for the rest of the Congress," Conyers told Fox News."


What agenda? What are the tangible evidences of their "agenda"? I didn't know that folding under pressure was considered an agenda. Truth be told ... they don't have the votes to overcome Senate filibusters and presidential vetoes. So they might as well go for impeachment to inflict the most damage possible before the '08 elections.

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datavg Donating Member (287 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-08-07 12:09 AM
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52. Conyers...
...is right. This is like someone dancing around explosives with a blowtorch.

If this goes ahead and there's a debate and a vote, we can all assume what the Republican ads will look like next Fall.

And, if it results in Democrats losing yet another presidential election plus control of the House of Representatives...we'll all know where to place the blame.
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Cronopio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-08-07 01:20 AM
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65. So you're afraid of a fight?
Think of how much better all of our lives would be if the Dems weren't.

The Repugs can crank up the slime machine all they want, but it won't stop the truth if people start getting behind the truth.

Maybe a good fight will inspire people to do so.
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Zhade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-08-07 01:23 AM
Response to Reply #65
67. He's willing to let criminals walk.
That's what it comes down to with anti-impeachment folks.

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kelligesq Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-09-07 04:16 AM
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89. NONSENSE. DEMS AT 11% APPROVAL BCZ THEYRE NOT IMPEACHING n/t
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Gonnuts Donating Member (525 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-08-07 03:46 PM
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84. Utmost Importance!
Calling won't do anything. I just spent 20 minutes on the phone with Conyers office and the gentleman was very candid in saying that. However calling, but more importantly writing a letter to our local representatives, has a much greater effect. The page I'm attaching contacts those representatives automatically. But even more important is to take the time and spend the 41-cents to mail a letter to your local rep.

http://www.usalone.com/hres333.php
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bjobotts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-08-07 01:38 AM
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71. Read this on why it is not a distraction and absolutely necessary now
Here are a few paragraphs from a post at Glenn Greenwald’s site over at Salon from guest blogger Chris Floyd, Oct. 26 showing why impeachment is not a distraction (suggest you go to the archives on that site and read the whole article):
“…For above all, impeachment should be moved to the top of the congressional agenda. It should be the overriding, all-consuming priority of the people’s representatives. For this is the inescapable, stone-cold truth: nothing, absolutely nothing but impeachment, will stop the Bush-Cheney regime from carrying out its criminal agenda…
(snip)
Congress passes laws forbidding torture; Bush and Cheney ignore them. Congress issues subpoenas and demands documents for its corruption probes; Bush and Cheney ignore them. Bush’s “signing statements” explicitly state that he will follow only those parts of the law that suit him. Congress could vote tomorrow that Iran cannot be attacked without a formal declaration of war, and Bush would attack whenever he chooses anyway, calling it an extension of the congressionally authorized action in Iraq, a “defensive” action to protect the troops. Congress can pass any law it wants, but if you have an executive branch that considers itself above the law – as this one demonstrably does – then it doesn’t matter. As long as Bush and Cheney remain in power, their criminal enterprise will go on.
Thus impeachment is not a “distraction” from efforts to end the war in Iraq, or stop a new war with Iran, or quell the vast and sickening corruption of the regime. It is their prerequisite. And even if impeachment is “politically impossible in the present circumstances,” as Bush enablers like the pusillanimous Nancy Pelosi likes to tell us, it should be shoved to the forefront of national debate nonetheless. Let us have a “constitutional crisis;” let us bring our festering sickness to a boil. Let’s lay it all out, and let people declare once and for all where they stand. Are you for the republic, or do you hold with tyranny, torture and mass murder? Let’s draw the line at last, and be done with all pretense.
But we know that what should be done will not be done. We see that the Democrats have taken impeachment “off the table.” We see that far from stopping or curtailing the war in Iraq, Pelosi and the Democratic leadership punish those among their number who dare speak the truth: that Bush has indeed sent American soldiers to have their heads blown off for his amusement, for his aggrandizement, for his radical agenda of loot and dominion. We see that far from stopping the rush toward a new war with Iran they are instead abetting it, declaring their overwhelming assent to the deceitful casus belli Bush has offered. We see, with despair, that the national Democrats share the regime’s radical agenda of endless militarism and hegemonic sway, differing only on a few points of style and decorum, and a desire to see more “competence” in Iraq and “future wars.” …”

History will look on this congress with disgust if they do not take up the challenge and the duty and impeach this administration. Make time Conyers...what ever else you think...make the time.




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orleans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-08-07 04:11 AM
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74. exactly.

"Make time Conyers...what ever else you think...make the time."
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rateyes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-07-07 07:21 PM
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21. I hope this happens, and that the first subpoena goes to
Patrick Fitzgerald.
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katty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-07-07 07:29 PM
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24. IF this happens--we will all witness a MIRACLE
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Nutmegger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-07-07 07:39 PM
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26. Impeach, Indict, Imprison.
Thank you BradBlog, for all that you do. :yourock:
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Divine Discontent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-07-07 08:35 PM
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28. agreed - Impeach, Indict, Imprison - Cheney FIRST. n/t
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surfermaw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-07-07 08:37 PM
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29. WE DO NOT WANT IMPEACHMENT
We don't want Jev Bush, or Mitt Romney to fill Cheneys place, that would give them a step up toward the Presidency!
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momster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-07-07 08:43 PM
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30. It Would Grapple JEB or Mitt
to this nightmare ride with seatbelts of steel. The country will not elect *anybody* tied tightly enough to the Bush Administration to be named VP. Anybody carrying GWB's taint of rotten meat (75% disapproval -- Yowch!) will never see Pres in front of their name.

Beside, whatever the political fallout, impeaching these smarmy bastards is the right thing to do.
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Beetwasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-07-07 08:52 PM
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31. LOL!
They will literally have to drag someone kicking and screaming into that vacancy.
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-08-07 12:20 AM
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57. Jeb Bush as VP with George as President --- a way to win --- ????
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PATRICK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-08-07 08:29 AM
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77. Their real plan
I believe, after winning in 2008 is to embed Jeb into the administration along with Cheney gang members or even work out a replacement of the Veep in various ways to let Jeb get in by appointment- what else? It's time someone else took control of the initiative and start making those initiatives restorative of law.

Wexler seems part of the Kucinich strategy. Realizing that this was the likely result they planned wisely to carry on the heat to this step. This shows real determination and not just a symbolic expenditure of talk. Keeping the heat on and actually getting to impeachment, even in committee, are likely signs that the issue will be kept engaged as long and as tough as possible.

Getting a crack in the media blackout will be as difficult as moving the Congress itself because they know if the people start wrapping their minds around this necessary, rational defense of basic law and the nation AND the perfidy of the chief actors, once again it will be the people who will force hands. They TRIED to rally the people against Clinton and failed. They try to suppress popular engagement on all things opposed to this administration and given time and heat, can fail there as well. Yet the media will not be allowed to dumbly allow the pressure as happened the first time under Nixon. It is quite a daunting task, but the tighter the lid on the pressure cooker, the worse the explosion if the heat keeps up.

This a battle beyond the concerns of a party struggling blindly in a rigged system it won't itself take on full force.
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Quixote1818 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-07-07 09:00 PM
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35. I say bring it on!

Impeachment of Cheney would leave the GOP in shambles going into the next election even if he gets off in the end. Anyone affiliated with Bush or Cheney would be stigmatized. The Impeachment of Clinton damaged Gore's chances even though Clinton eventually got off.
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KAZ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-07-07 09:12 PM
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36. What, ride on the Chimp's coattails? What are you smoking?
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puebloknot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-07-07 09:44 PM
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40. What's this "we" stuff???
Nevertheless, we must take a stand for the rule of law, not to mention all that is decent and holy -- by just about any standard.

I agree with your concern about filling Cheney's shoes. But unless they cheat -- and they probably will -- a good Dem candidate can defeat them. We have to stop cowering!!!!
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PufPuf23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-07-07 11:24 PM
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49. If we are still really free and living in a democrtic republic
and elections are real, an individual that accepts the VP appointment should Cheney be impeached has tainted rather than enhanced their future political career.
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kelligesq Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-08-07 03:09 PM
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82. PUHLEEZ - 27% of the koolaid drinkers would vote for Jeb but
no one else would vote for anything named bush again.

Nonsense excuse of the DLC dems

They value their "party" above the Constitution of the
United States. Therefore they need to be replaced too.
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kelligesq Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-09-07 04:19 AM
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90. BULLDOGGY. after 7 years of this you think a republican could get in? anyway
The Constitution of the United States is more important than
ONE party or the other.

The entire fabric of the country is torn apart and the
democratic agenda so far is not saving it.

If they dont save it, they are not going to win in 08 anyway.
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Bolo Boffin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-07-07 08:54 PM
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32. Oh, baby, that's the way bolo likes it. :) n/t
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jeff30997 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-07-07 08:58 PM
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33. Impeach the baboon right now !!!
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LWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-07-07 08:59 PM
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34. That's great news!
Someone else to stand up and fight.

Thank you, Congressman Wexler.

:applause:
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puebloknot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-07-07 09:30 PM
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37. K&R Good news. Thanks for posting! nt
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Danger Mouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-07-07 09:43 PM
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39. That's right...don't let it languish!
Let freedom ring - IMPEACH!
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-07-07 10:24 PM
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42. Everybody who has a Congressional Rep. on the Judiciary Comm.
needs to send an immediate email to them demanding hearings. And get everybody else in your district to do the same. NOW!!!!!!!!

I emailed my guy - Brad Sherman.
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nebula Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-07-07 10:31 PM
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43. About fucking time
...impeach Cheney/Bush and get rid of that worthless do-nothing Pelosi too!

Kucinich '08!
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Gonnuts Donating Member (525 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-07-07 11:01 PM
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45. The MSM may well have to pay attention ...
I'm not holding my breath, but, and this is a big "but", if Wexler, Kucinich and a few others start to make a stink about this and it is brought to the forefront ... well, as I've said, I'm not holding my breath, but little things have brought down great powers in the past.

But not even Olberman has given any coverage of this. Not that that surprises me. NBC is after all owned by GE, and GE has made mucho dinero because of cheney.

But, back to but again, if, and that's a big "if" ... anyway, one can only hope.
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ann--- Donating Member (1 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-07-07 11:03 PM
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46. This is great news!
Hopefully, the Dems won't cave on this one.
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derby378 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-07-07 11:03 PM
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47. I take a break from the news for one day, and look what happens...
Way to go, Wexler! Keep up the pressure! :applause:
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yurbud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-07-07 11:08 PM
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48. kick
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williesgirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-07-07 11:32 PM
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50. Almost afraid to hope again... rec'd
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peacetalksforall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-08-07 12:14 AM
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55. If any of you have the time - start tracking the lack of attention and the
negative attention from the big 5/7 - COMPARED to the character assassination leading to the impeachment of Bill Clinton. (Negative towards Democrats).

If someone could come up with some figures of hours that the 5/7 devoted to Clinton and compare it with what we can expect will be an attempt at a near blackout of this attempt there will be proof positive for all time about who owns the 5/7.

Five - GE, Murdoch, Time-Warner, Disney, Viacom and all the other corporations in their consortiumc.

Seven - NBC, MSNBC, CNBC, FOX, CNN, ABC, CBS

Yes, it will be an eye opener.

They will be directed in dis-reality, but it will be something like fizzled magic because the numbers will not lie. Hour for hour.

We may have Dick moving to Dubai sooner than he thought in spite of the 5/7.
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-08-07 12:23 AM
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58. Wait --- that might be a thread in itself . . .. $ that MSM wants is in Dem hands ---
The media get 80% of the campaign funds raised by candidates ---

And if Dems are going to be in charge of communications ---

I think this may be accounting for the slight "crack" we are seeing -- at least over at GE --

GE, my gawd!!! --- with Olbermann.

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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-08-07 12:17 AM
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56. We are coming up to holidays . .. sliding into the New Year . . . not far to go ---
There are still many roadblocks to the investigations they have going on now ---

Especially if those blocks remain up, impeachment should be a way to tear some of this info loose.

At any rate, talking about the LIES of Cheney which led us to an "illegal" invasion of Iraq

might also help us re Iran.

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suston96 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-08-07 01:03 AM
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62. These are times that try our souls....
Edited on Thu Nov-08-07 01:13 AM by suston96
An inquest into the criminalities of the principals of these administrations would have a cathathic effect on all of us. But while the euphoric effects sound delightful, if not orgasmic, what would be accomplished?

Lots of time spent on investigations, witnesses, testimony and eventual acquittal in the gridlocked Senate...and....

......the 2008 election takes a back seat, and the Karl Rove gremlins will be corrupting the election machinery, yes he will, he already is working feverishly at it, with the result that we will remove a lame duck quacker (slim chance getting 2/3 of the Senate to convict) but lose the Congress and the Presidency while we are looking for fleeting favorabilities.

I would prefer waiting for their Constitutional exits on January 20, 2009 and at 12:01 PM have Deputy Sheriffs slap handcuffs qnd leg chains on them for arraignments and trials for grotesque crimes against the American people.

And we can get back to trashing the Republican party with such devastation in 2008 that they will wander for another 40 years in the barren desert as they have during the recently concluded 20th Century.

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bjobotts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-08-07 01:28 AM
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68. Let me get this straight. They voted against tableling it so it got sent to committee?
The media led me to believe that this was the last we'd ever hear of the resolution. Instead it seems, they couldn't quash the resolution by tabling it so they hoped to bury it in the judicial committee. I hope I finally got it straight.
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rockybelt Donating Member (938 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-08-07 01:54 AM
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72. I'm starting to see a pattern
and it is a pattern that I like.
People are getting PISSED!!! That means they are starting to pay attention.
Now is the time for the serious bloggers to hit with everything they have to grab the attention of the "comfortably numb" public.
Make them uncomfortable as hell. I will help. Just tell me how to help.
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Oak2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-08-07 12:50 PM
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81. People for the most part aren't numb, they're pissed but don't know what to do
And *this* is something to get them behind.
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orleans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-08-07 04:15 AM
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75. i can't believe i forgot to recommend this earlier. well, i'm doing it now. and kickin' n/t
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Vinca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-08-07 08:41 AM
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78. Dennis is the first true patriot I've seen in a long, long time.
He's not a nut and he's not going to ruin the party. The Democrats who didn't support him the other day might though. The majority of the American people are seriously pissed off. If anything, the Cheney impeachment will more likely than not win us more seats. But that shouldn't be the consideration. Put politics aside for once and think of justice. Not only should Cheney be impeached, he should be tried for war crimes and headed to prison for the rest of his life. Impeachment is a slap on the wrist compared to what he deserves. What the hell has happened to this country when it's perceived as okay that a person fabricates intelligence, scares the hell out of the population and takes the country into a war that costs hundreds of thousands of lives, completely trashes a country that didn't attack us and puts this country in debt for longer than we'll be alive. Parts of this thread sound like a Halliburton stockholder's convention.
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-08-07 10:55 AM
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80. **** Link to Contact Info for Judiciary Committee Members ****
http://judiciary.house.gov/CommitteeMembership.aspx

Please let them know how important this is to you.
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Gonnuts Donating Member (525 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-08-07 03:47 PM
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85. Utmost importance
Calling won't do anything. I just spent 20 minutes on the phone with Conyers office and the gentleman was very candid in saying that. However calling, but more importantly writing a letter to our local representatives, has a much greater effect. The page I'm attaching contacts those representatives automatically. But even more important is to take the time and spend the 41-cents to mail a letter to your local rep.

http://www.usalone.com/hres333.php
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kelligesq Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-08-07 03:12 PM
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83. Send Wexler's letter to the MSM - dont let impeachment die - get him on
tv shows.
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Maribelle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-08-07 07:24 PM
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88. a consistent pattern of abusing the law and misleading Congress and the American people...
November 7, 2007

Wexler Votes for Floor Debate on Cheney Impeachment


Urges Judiciary Committee to Schedule Impeachment Hearings Immediately

    (Washington, DC) Today, Congressman Wexler supported allowing debate and a vote on a privileged resolution sponsored by Rep. Dennis Kucinich (D-OH) on the impeachment of Vice President Dick Cheney (H.Res. 333). Wexler voted no, along with only 85 other Democrats, on tabling the measure and in support of beginning immediate debate and a vote on the Cheney impeachment resolution. The vote on tabling the Kucinich resolution was rejected, and the House subsequently voted to refer the matter to the Judiciary Committee.

    “Vice President Dick Cheney and the Bush Administration have demonstrated a consistent pattern of abusing the law and misleading Congress and the American people. We see the consequences of these actions abroad in Iraq and at home through the violations of our civil liberties,” Wexler said.

    “The American people are served well with a legitimate and thorough impeachment inquiry. I urge the Judiciary Committee to schedule impeachment hearings immediately and not let this issue languish as it has over the last six months. Only through hearings can we begin to correct the abuses of Dick Cheney and the Bush Administration; and, if it is determined in these hearings that Vice President Cheney has committed High Crimes and Misdemeanors, he should be impeached and removed from office.”


    http://wexler.house.gov/apps/list/speech/fl19_wexler/morenews/110607_frontpageimpeachment.shtml



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