Bush to Democrats: 'We are at war'

[maddezmom]

Source: AP

WASHINGTON - President Bush compared Congress' Democratic leaders Thursday with people who ignored the rise of Lenin and Hitler early in the last century, saying "the world paid a terrible price" then and risks similar consequences for inaction today.

Bush accused Congress of stalling important pieces of the fight to prevent new terrorist attacks by: dragging out and possibly jeopardizing confirmation of Michael Mukasey as attorney general, a key part of his national security team; failing to act on a bill governing eavesdropping on terrorist suspects; and moving too slowly to approve spending measures for the Iraq war, Pentagon and veterans programs.

"Unfortunately, on too many issues, some in Congress are behaving as if America is not at war," Bush said during a speech at the Heritage Foundation. "This is no time for Congress to weaken the Department of Justice by denying it a strong and effective leader. ... It's no time for Congress to weaken our ability to intercept information from terrorists about potential attacks on the United States of America. And this is no time for Congress to hold back vital funding for our troops as they fight al-Qaida terrorists and radicals in Afghanistan and Iraq."

Bush's remarks were his second in two days alleging inaction on Capitol Hill, which has been led by Democrats since January. This speech focused on measures related to the war on terror, while Wednesday's emphasized disputes between the White House and Congress over domestic issues.



Read more: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20071101/ap_on_go_pr_wh/bush_1

[Renew Deal]

1. Yes, Democrats ignoring and enabling Bush is extremely dangerous.

Something should be done about that and that something begins with an I.

[bullimiami]

2. damn bush is right on. they are sitting back and letting him destroy our democracy.

[Roon]

3. We are at war?

I thought it was "mission accomplished"?...I thought major combat operations were over?

[superconnected]

4. Fuck.

Why hasn't that crook been impeached and tried for mass murder yet?

Pelosi, can you please get out of bed with him and do your job? Why do you think we voted for you? Dino bimbo...

I bet she's made millions in corporate lobbiests monies and that's her only focus at this point.

[BOSSHOG]

5. One can be a badass with that HERITAGE FOUNDATION cheering you on

That organization exists solely to destroy the constitution because so many people think it applies to all citizens. Now that certainly isn't a conservative value.

bush showing off his little pee-pee in front of another hand picked audience. So brave.

[Cha]

59. bushit is just waving that

miniscule thing around at the heritage foundation for fucking nazi idiots.

[emilyg]

6. No shit, Sherlock.

[librechik]

7. are you sure you don't want to call it a police action or something?

Cuz you still haven't managed to get an actual Declaration of War out of the only body constitutionally capable of doing such a thing.

Oh well. His vocabulary, like his intelligence, is so limited...


War cries are so much more dramatic and frightening than cries of limited executive action!

[micraphone]

47. Totally agree 'bout the terminology...

W thinks he is allowed to declare "war". WRONG. As usual.

But I think the police (as in cops) may object to it being called a Police Action. How about "attempt to change the political face of the earth by killing shitloads of people"?

[librechik]

53. tuff to fit that on a bumpersticker

but it works for me!

and welcome to DU!

:hi:

[LynnTheDem]

80. And isn't that the US Military's definition of

TERRORISM.

Yep, it is.

bUsh's America; biggest terrorist on the planet.

[MisterP]

8. Lenin? oh, maybe it's 'coz the Bolsheviks took over

Corporate Jesus Ayn Rand's father's pharmacy when she was little, scarring her forever towards peasant muzhiks, billboard-free landscapes, and non-Aryan-inventor-CEO-Übermenschen

[shain from kane]

9. Then, let's have Congress vote to declare war in a straight, up and down vote. n/t

[4dsc]

73. I 2nd that emotion...

I was wondering when someone would point out the obvious..

[Nihil]

75. And as soon as you schedule the vote ...

... you will - by strange coincidence - schedule a "Gulf of Tonkin" event
(or maybe just "Anthrax Letters II").

If you could call a house vote at the drop of a hat then great.
If it requires planning, publicity and scheduling you are just playing into
the NeoCons' hands.

The better strategy is to keep getting the message out there that NO war
has been legally declared - meaning that every one of those people killed
or maimed has NOT "sacrificed" for the USA, he or she has simply been a
line item on the balance sheet for the latest BushCo fund-raiser.

[jody]

10. "We are at war". Why? Because I'm the president, that's why! n/t

[The_Casual_Observer]

11. He started a war & won't stop it so he can keep saying "were at war".

It's just bush gaming the system again.

[Mad_Dem_X]

76. Exactly

It's because of HIM that we're at war, and he's using it as his excuse for every-fucking-thing he and his administration does.

[bdamomma]

12. what a sick man, all he cares about is death and destruction

and fuck everyone and everything else. This man is not well.

[mlevans]

32. This man is not well.

Well, it's been suggested on more than one occasion that the man (and I use that term loosely) may be unstable at best, and at worst, insane. Put in that context everything kind of falls into place, doesn't it?

[napi21]

13. When my kids acted like that, I flat out refused to give them

what they wanted at all! I will tell Shrub that the more he throws his fits and tantrums, the longer it's going to take to get ANYTHING he wants, and if this behavior continues, he can just forget about getting anything!

[mlevans]

33. if this behavior continues, he can just forget about getting anything!

Accompanying that with a good sound smack on the hiney would be appropriate as well.

[eagler]

14. We've been having the same sorry arguments for 7 years.

Really nothing has changed and it is not about to change unless the methods by which the message is getting spread changes.

[eagler]

15. No sir WE are not at war. YOU are at war.

[Megahurtz]

16. No One Declared War

the last I heard. Doesn't he know the difference between War and illegally occupying other Countries?

[CatholicEdHead]

25. Exactly

There is no Congressional Declaration of war. The last one was in Dec 1941.

[Trajan]

37. Exactly : This is a POLICE ACTION ....

One that had no real justification .....

Fucking Hypocrites ....

[olddad56]

17. We are not at war, we are illegally occupying Iraq and Afghanistan.

[DesEtoiles]

18. The magic words! Now Dems will cave.

[f the letter]

19. Seriously. Congress, please prove us wrong!

don't cave on just one thing! please

[eagler]

20. The excuses Bush uses for going to war are identical to those Hitler

used to justify his going to war.

[Bitwit1234]

21. He always leaves the important things out...

Bush says to the country......"We are at war..(forgetting to add ) at my own making".

[annabanana]

22. WE are not at war. We are occupying a country that we illegally invaded.

And THAT does not make him a "war president"

[krispos42]

23. "weaken the Department of Justice by denying it a strong and effective leader"

IIRC, we haven't had a strong and effective AG since Reno. And who's fault is that?

[eagler]

24. Not only are Bush's excuses for going to war identical to Hitler's but

Hitler also gained the scorn of almost the entire world in the process. Sound familiar?

[bdamomma]

78. yup, and everyday we have more enemies, sickening

this man needs to GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!

[sakabatou]

26. We are? I thought it was done.

Oh that's riiiight, you're playing this whole shit backwards.

[FREEWILL56]

27. Three words for him.

How dare you?

Yes, congress is ignoring the likes of you by allowing your unprecidented war for greed to go on while threatening ww3 along with all of the nastyness and illegal things you have comitted. You and your cohorts need tried for treason and for crimes against humanity.
Yes, you stalled the real war on terror by not pursuing the real culprits of 9-11 while trying to shove another one of your loyal servants upon us to further undermine this great nation.
Yes, mr bush. You have ignored that we are at war on account of your greed for money and power and have even made jokes of it by pretending to look for WMDs and there isn't any greater disrespect for our soldiers than to jeopardize their lives and health by needlessly placing them in harm's way while you make jokes.
Yes, I agree congress needs to act as they've dragged their feet on doing what needs to be done either because of being bought off by or threatened by your little coup.

[DCKit]

39. Perhaps they're hoping he'll lose his temper, throw a tantrum....

And do something SOOOOO stupid and obvious that even the chickenhawks, neocons and rethugs won't back him?

[Synnical]

28. "History teaches us that underestimating the words of evil, ambitious men is a terrible mistake,"

. . .

He argued that the current debate over the Iraq war and the Bush administration's anti-terror methods harkens back to debates decades ago in Washington when Soviet founder Vladimir Lenin first talked about launching a communist revolution, when Adolf Hitler began moves to establish an "Aryan superstate" in Germany, and when some argued that Cold War accommodation of the Soviet Union was wiser than competition.

"Now we're at the start of a new century, and the same debate is once again unfolding, this time regarding my policy in the Middle East," Bush said. "Once again, voices in Washington are arguing that the watchword of the policy should be stability."

Bush said denial that "we are at war" is dangerous.

"History teaches us that underestimating the words of evil, ambitious men is a terrible mistake," Bush said. "Bin Laden and his terrorist allies have made their intentions as clear as Lenin and Hitler before them. And the question is, will we listen?" . . .

:freak:

[kimmylavin]

36. Well, Mr. Bush, that's true.

"History teaches us that underestimating the words of evil, ambitious men is a terrible mistake"

It sure is.
That's why YOUR power should be checked.

[onehandle]

29. This from the President who's administration outed a CIA Agent working on WMD counterintelligence?

Really?

[coalition_unwilling]

I don't know what * means about the US ignoring Lenin. The

US really did not have much to do with Lenin's rise to power before the Bolshevik Revolution, coming as it did with the collapse of Czarist armies fighting Imperial Germany in World War I.

After the Bolshevik Revolution, the U.S. supported various White Russian counter-revolutionary elements in the 1920s, so the US certainly did not ignore Lenin after his rise to power.

Republicans generally ran the show during the 1920s, so if anyone ignored Lenin who should have been paying attention, it was probably Republicans.

[w8liftinglady]

44. there you go,stating *facts* again

[rockybelt]

30. Ignoring the rise of Hitler

The congress, dems and repubs, are ignoring the rise of the HITLER LIKE Bushco fiasco taking place right under their noses. I guess they are too stupid to do anything about it---like impeachment---or they are complicit with this regime.

[underpants]

31. Who ignore what exactly there George?

didn't you get the memo??? Oh yeah you did we know you did and YOU ignored it


welcome to DU rockybelt :hi:

[Odin2005]

34. Nobody like your temper tantrums you war criminal bastard!!! n/t.

[harun]

35. We are at occupation (n/t)

[D23MIURG23]

38. Quick, someone get him some pretzels!!

[Baby Snooks]

40. But the world this time IS NOT ignoring the threat...

The problem is that the world IS paying attention to the threat that George W Bush represents to the world. He is the real enemy. He is the new Lenin and the new Hitler. He is, in fact, worse than Lenin and Hitler. Lenin and Hitler at least had some method to their madness. Bush knows only madness.

We are indeed at war. The world has declared war on us. But most likely they will not have to fire a shot. The world is watching as our economy collapses. Along with our Constitution.

And when the economy collapses, Nancy Pelosi will bat her eyelashes and go, well, this is good for the Democrats. And Feinstein will find kind words for Bush. And the ACLU will blame Congress.

And Bush of course will declare martial law. If he hasn't already.

[Summer93]

41. Is he warning us about himself?

"President Bush compared Congress' Democratic leaders Thursday with people who ignored the rise of Lenin and Hitler early in the last century, saying "the world paid a terrible price" then and risks similar consequences for inaction today."

This first paragraph suggests to me that he trying to equate himself with Lenin and Hitler and warning that inaction today on what he asks for will mean that the world will pay a terrible price?

Perhaps you folks can clarify this for me.

[tomg]

42. He's a Fascist Little Shit. NT

[Rosa Luxemburg]

43. who keeps letting him out of his cage?

[november3rd]

45. The war

The war we're in is BushCo against the world. The So-Called War on Terror is a flop, because the greater our military presence in these countries, the more resistance we stir up.

Fighting terrorism is a police action that should be undertaken in cooperation with international efforts.

[w8liftinglady]

46. gallery of Bush-Hitler allusions

http://semiskimmed.net/bushhitler.html
31 similarities between Bush and hitler
http://www.dissidentvoice.org/Articles3/Jayne_Hitler-Bush.htm
connections between Bush empire and Nazi Germany
http://ecosyn.us/Bush-Hitler/

[Lorien]

48. Petulant little pissant

more and more I can't help but picture him as a spoiled brat throwing a tantrum in the toy department at Wal-Mart. "Gimme, gimme, gimmee"! It's time for the Dem leadership to give him a smackdown....well past time, actually.

[TheWatcher]

49. Oh my.....This was probably THE most shining moment of hypocrisy of this GENERATION

Right here. Right now.

It is very interesting to hear you say these things, my little giggling murderer, when Prescott Bush, YOUR GRANDFATHER, helped FINANCE Hitler.

Your family certainly didn't ignore Hitler.

They AIDED and ABETTED him.

I could go on, but for those who want to spend some time with Google, go check it out.

There simply are no words.

Somebody get us a Doctor.

[Solly Mack]

50. So would a President really tell people to go shopping and spend

money if that country was truly at war?

Definition of Bush's "war" in Iraq - to murder people to expand executive power and steal money and resources from America and Iraq

[erpowers]

51. His Supporters Like Lenin

Does he not know that a number of his supporters and some of the people in his cabinet are supporters of Lenin? Or, is it just that he does not care about about the double standard.

[Zorra]

52. Democrats to Bu*h: "And that's exactly why we are going to put you in

prison."

ATCI: Arrest, Try, Convict, Imprison.

We should Nuremberg the war mongering, lying little fascist traitor like we did with similar fascists after WW II.

[olddad56]

54. It seems appropriate to mention Hitler, Lenin, and Bush in the same sentence.

[BadGimp]

55. That didn't take long did it?

He went from expressing outrage to lobbing the big one in a matter of days. Disregarding the fact that his argument is complete bullshit, he does not have a stronger argument left to use.

His problem he now has is he has already shot his biggest gun. I just hope he only blows off his own foot instead of scaring the Dems into capitulation.

This is a big moment for the Dems. If they hold firm they can crush him. If they cave, we are all so terminally screwed it's not funny.

Stay tuned...

[Acadia Blue]

56. A psychotic dyslexic liar in chief.

[kurth]

57. What's this WE shit?

It's Bush's War.

[gulliver]

58. Nobody gets to the low ground like Dubya.

The Dems should start just laughing in his stupid face. Bush blusters because he is a sitting duck. He is one step away from the lifelong ridicule he has richly earned. All that has to happen is for the damn to burst and the truth about Bush to be told right to his face. He is a nasty, lying, conceited, assholish dumbass. Everyone knows it in their heart. It's high time to make it explicit.

[dysfunctional press]

60. then raise taxes to pay for it. that's HOW it's done. has been for millenia.

especially seeing as your misadministration pegged the costs of the $2.4TRILLION war(s) at "$50 billion, tops."

[rodeodance]

61. Bush tells Dems war denial is dangerous

Source: afp

Bush tells Dems war denial is dangerous

By JENNIFER LOVEN, Associated Press Writer 4 minutes ago

WASHINGTON - President Bush compared Congress' Democratic leaders Thursday to people who ignored the rise of Lenin and Hitler early in the last century, saying "the world paid a terrible price" then and risks similar consequences for inaction today.

Bush accused Congress of stalling important pieces of the fight to prevent new terrorist attacks by: dragging out and possibly jeopardizing confirmation of Michael Mukasey as attorney general, a key part of his national security team; failing to act on a bill governing eavesdropping on terrorist suspects; and moving too slowly to approve spending measures for the Iraq war, Pentagon and veterans programs.

"Unfortunately, on too many issues, some in Congress are behaving as if America is not at war," Bush said during a speech at the Heritage Foundation, a conservative think tank. "This is no time for Congress to weaken the Department of Justice by denying it a strong and effective leader. ... It's no time for Congress to weaken our ability to intercept information from terrorists about potential attacks on the United States of America. And this is no time for Congress to hold back vital funding for our troops as they fight al-Qaida terrorists and radicals in Afghanistan and Iraq."

Bush's remarks were his second in two days alleging inaction on Capitol Hill, which has been led by Democrats since January. This speech focused on measures related to the war on terror, while Wednesday's emphasized disputes between the White House and Congress over domestic issues.

Read more: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20071102/ap_on_go_pr_wh/bush;_ylt=ArX.5z8OJcT8kUQlbKJP9sas0NUE

---

DK is right--it is time to seriously question his mental health!

[atreides1]

62. Considering who his grandfather did business with

I'm sure he can tell us all about what Hitler intended.

[silverojo]

70. Yeah, I was puking at this

Bush "compared Congress' Democratic leaders Thursday to people who ignored the rise of Lenin and Hitler early in the last century."

No, chimpy, muddle-class America are the ones who ignored the rise of a dictator early in the twenty-first century....

[noel adamson]

63. It is lethal irony that the democrats have allowed Bush to follow in Hitler's footsteps

...with little resistance from the Democrats. The vultures are picking at the corpse of free democracy while the jackals and hyenas rip at the flesh of the population.

[EST]

64. Why in the world

would anyone take the word of the idiot in chief for anything?

The only place he can even speak is in a crowd of fellow nutters whose grasp on reality is highly questionable.

[...of J.Temperance]

65. W is dangerous and so are the loonies that surround him n/t

.

[Amonester]

66. World tells Bush mental health issues denial is dangerous

BFEE: http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_oet&address=358x3087
PNAC: http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_oet&address=358x223

There. It needed to be said.

[opihimoimoi]

67. WELL, we can thank the GOP who put this dude in there and supported him..

Instead of censoring him for malfeasance, the GOPers let him slide.....and worse, continue support. Its as if they are fearful of him...

Now, they will pay the price as they will find it difficult to survive elections.....

What can I say?

[TankLV]

68. The world ignores the WAR Crmininal bush* at it's peril...that's for sure!

Unlike Lenin and Hitler before him, the world MUST stop this WAR CRIMINAL before it's too late!!!

[GoddessOfGuinness]

69. Is that a warning, or a threat?

Impeach those sonsofbitches now!

[Vidar]

71. What Congress has ignored is the successful coup by Bush & Co. in this country.

Both in terms of the depth of its evil & capacity to do mischief the Bush junta far outstrips Al Quaida, the Taliban and any other terrorist group.

[Demeter]

72. What An Unfortunate Syllogism!

Lenin came to power because the powers that ran things at the time wanted to take Russia out of their way in prosecuting WWI. So they let him out of jail and put him on a train to Moscow.

And as for Hitler, had the reparations to punish Germany not been so brutal, he might never have gotten a toehold in. And several people mentioned that at the time, but the powers that be decreed that Germany must pay (even though the war started for other reasons).

[Nihil]

74. The first paragraph is exactly right - frighteningly so.

> President Bush compared Congress' Democratic leaders Thursday with people
> who ignored the rise of Lenin and Hitler early in the last century, saying
> "the world paid a terrible price" then and risks similar consequences for
> inaction today.

Most of "Congress' Democratic leaders" are ignoring the rise of an unstable,
despotic dictator and many others are actively enabling him.

The world is already paying a terrible price for that inaction/support over
the last seven years and that price is guaranteed to get much higher in the
next 12 months.

One failure to oppose follows another and each time, the Bush empire wins.

It just goes to show that even Bush tells the truth from time to time.

[hyphenate]

77. Yes, Mr Bush

We ARE at war--with you, you chicken-hawk troglodyte, and with YOUR enablers in Congress. Never before have we faced a dictator such as yourself--you compare Dems to the German people who allowed Hitler to come to power, but you are indeed the same fascist asshole as Adolph Hitler, and the pubs are your SS force. This is a war that Dems must win, because the people of our country deserve so much more than you have given.

We have two possible paths ahead of us: one is a country wracked with strife and a tyrannical government no different than Germany in the 1930s, and the other, a country attempting to recover from the worst administration it has ever encountered. If we can rescue the nation and manage to recover, I won't be surprised if somewhere down the line you are considered to be the worst president EVER in U.S. history. Some might consider that hyperbole, but simply surviving what obstacles and horrors you have subjected us to is difficult at best. So yes, we are at war--a civil war you deliberately engaged us in.


on edit: typo

[LynnTheDem]

79. Actually, George, YOU INVADED a nation that hadn't been doing one damn thing

against us or anyone else.

YOUR NEEDLESS ILLEGAL INVASION, george.

[4_TN_TITANS]

81. President Bush compared Congress' Democratic leaders Thursday with people who ignored the rise of Le

Sweet Jesus, the irony....

[0rganism]

82. *sigh* Time for a draft, is it?

What a useless fuckwit is our Dear Leader. If congressional Dems can't figure out how to use this one to advantage, they'll take yet another big step towards becoming equally useless.