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DeepModem Mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-31-07 10:47 AM
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Clinton praises NY driver's license plan, but won't endorse
Source: CNN


Clinton's answer on driver's licenses for illegal immigrants drew fire.

PHILADEPHIA (CNN) — Democratic presidential contender, New York's Sen. Hillary Clinton said New York Gov. Eliot Spitzer's controversial plan to give driver's licenses to illegal immigrants "makes a lot of sense," but stopped short of endorsing the plan in Tuesday night's debate in Philadelphia. At least one opponent accused her of "saying two different things in the course of about two minutes." Asked about the proposal, Clinton said Spitzer is trying to find a solution to a bigger problem.

"We know in New York we have several million at any one time who are in New York illegally," Clinton said. "So what Gov. Spitzer is trying to do is to fill the vacuum.

"I believe we need to get back to comprehensive immigration reform because no state, no matter how well intentioned, can fill this gap. There needs to be federal action on immigration reform."

Sen. Chris Dodd disagreed on issuing licenses to illegal immigrants, calling the plan "troublesome." He said, "a license is a privilege, and that ought not to be extended, in my view."

Moments later, Clinton said, "I just want to add, I did not say that it should be done, but I certainly recognize what Gov. Spitzer is trying to do …"

Rivals on stage jumped on her answer. Dodd told her, "No, no, no. You said, 'yes.'" Pressed to clarify her answer, Clinton said, "This is where everybody plays 'gotcha.' It makes a lot of sense. "What is the governor supposed to do? He is dealing with a serious problems. We have failed. And George Bush has failed. "Do I think this is the best thing for any governor to do? No, but do I understand the sense of real desperation, trying to get a handle on this. "Remember, in New York, we want to know who's in New York. We want people to come out of the shadows."...

Read more: http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/10/31/clinton-ny-license-idea-makes-a-lot-of-sense-but-wont-endorse/#more-2821
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kysrsoze Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-31-07 10:53 AM
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1. Triangulation, what's your function?
Saying yes and no at the same time. :puke:
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insanad Donating Member (286 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-31-07 12:32 PM
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9. Glaring Mistakes
I said MAYBE, and that's my final answer!!!
I think I have a good picture of what Bill Clinton faces daily when he's being a typical naughty boy. Hilary's face was absolutely reflective of her bristling anger and resentful bitterness as she glared at Obama with daggers that would pierce through a steel and concrete bomb shelter. Imagine if she wins the nomination and then faces the onslaught of the Republicans and other people who don't want her there. We'll have that face, that edgy bitch tone, that harsh rebuke and glaring resentment facing us every day on the news. It's hard enough to have the shit flinging chimpanzee of George Bush gesticulating and goofing daily but at least he's easy to dismiss as the buffoon he is. Having Hilary nag and rant and chide would make me cancel my cable.

When I watch these debates I'm in awe of the stamina and grace that any of these candidates must muster. The questions can set one up for a disaster and a cool head, thoughtful but quick and focused answer must be given. Every nuance of a facial gesture or tick is noted and analyzed for signs of honesty or emotional reaction. Then there's the time limits that force the one answering to give in essence, a committed yes or no, even if there's qualifiers.

From a debate standpoint, from a perspective of who can take charge even when they're not in charge, from a measure of one's grace and quick decisiveness, a sense of humor, an ability to stay on message and turn trick questions in their favor BARACK ROCKS!!!! I loved his response to the UFO thing, his response to the Social Security mess, his Halloween response, and the absolute dignified and intelligent demeanor he exudes when he's on stage. God I hope he can win. Not because I'm caught up in his electrifying charisma, but because his ideas, his leadership, his ability to reflect strength and diplomatic reason are all the kinds of things our nation needs to help us heal from the years of George Bush and his disastrous presidency. If anyone can take this bag of broken glass that is our nations economy, military, and reputation and make a virtual stained glass window to illuminate the goodness that is inherent in America, then I believe Barack Obama can.
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tesla78 Donating Member (68 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-31-07 10:55 AM
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2. Clinton is part of the NAU agenda
North American Union
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luckyleftyme2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-31-07 11:01 AM
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5. STOP PLAYING THE RIGHTS GAME
Edited on Wed Oct-31-07 11:03 AM by luckyleftyme2
SMEAR AND SHEAR=DIVIDE AND DEFEAT!
HOW =SIMPLE=ATTACK A DEMOCRATIC CANDIDATE.
HOW TO STOP IT= PRAISE ALL BUT EXPRESS YOUR CANDIDATES STRONG POINT.
AFTER ALL BUSHCO GOT IN BY SAND BAGGING "DEAN"-AND LOOK WHAT A MESS CORPORATE AMERICA(FOREIGN MONEY) HAS MADE OF OUR FINANCES.
STICK TOGETHER AND THROW THE BUMS OUT!

WHITEHOUSE,SENATE AND CONGRESS IN 08! JAIL FOR THE THIEVES IN 09!
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kysrsoze Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-31-07 11:04 AM
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6. Why should we support someone whose policies are the complete opposite of our wishes
Edited on Wed Oct-31-07 11:06 AM by kysrsoze
just because the media and corporations (redundancy, anyone) are pushing her? Funny how you bash "Corporate America," yet you support Hillary $ Clinton.

Just what is her strong point, anyway? Was it the recent Iran vote? Her bullshit "everybody pays" healthcare giveaway to insurers, her Iraq vote, her flag-burning bill, her bitching about videogames or her Lieberman/Kyl bill sponsorship?
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tesla78 Donating Member (68 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-31-07 11:08 AM
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8. Having open borders is part of the NAU agenda which Clinton supports
Edited on Wed Oct-31-07 11:15 AM by tesla78
Are you denying that Clinton supports "open border" policies like NAFTA and NAU(North American Union)?

Please argue on the facts and avoid calling me a right winger. I disagree with policies like NAFTA and NAU strongly.
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-31-07 10:57 AM
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3. Since this isn't a federal issue, but a state issue
I don't see why a candidate for the presidency should be asked about this. Or, if strictly state issues are now going to be the rage, will the candidates be asked about Oregon's Measure 49? For or against, huh? For or against!
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Neshanic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-31-07 10:59 AM
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4. Must reboot. Vista triangulation failure. Await Hillary service pack 2.
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DemNoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-31-07 11:07 AM
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7. Imagine Hillary Vs Mitt!
What a mind bender that would be. A campaign in a house of mirrors.
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