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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-19-07 11:34 PM
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Senate quashes grant for Woodstock museum
Source: USA TODAY


Senate quashes grant for Woodstock museum
Updated 8h 11m ago

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A couple sits atop a painted van at the original Woodstock Music and Art Fair in Bethel, N.Y. A performing arts center has been built on the site.
Enlarge image Enlarge 1969 AP file photo


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By Ken Dilanian, USA TODAY
WASHINGTON — The Senate voted Thursday to kill a $1 million grant for a museum on the site of the 1969 Woodstock concert, a rare rebuke of a legislative pet project and a blow to the presidential candidate who backed it, Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton.

Clinton and her New York colleague, Sen. Charles Schumer, had the funding inserted into the $604 billion education and health spending bill. The Woodstock project's main backer, Alan Gerry, is a registered Republican who recently became a major contributor to the Schumer-led Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee.
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Two Republican senators, Oklahoma's Tom Coburn and Arizona's Jon Kyl, offered an amendment Thursday seeking to redirect the money to a maternal health care program. In a time of mounting deficits, they argued, senators shouldn't be steering money to a museum that has wealthy private supporters.




Read more: http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/2007-10-18-senate-woodstock_N.htm?csp=1
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BenDavid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-19-07 11:41 PM
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1. Yep! You can bet yo ass when HRC
becomes President and she has that 58 majority in the Senate I would suspect Arizona and Oklahoma will be without a lot of stuff. Just my way of saying pay back will be forthcoming......It would not have been so bad but then Kyl had to stand his old ass up on the Senate floor and belittle all of us that tried to change the country in the late 60's.....

Ben David
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dweller Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-20-07 12:07 AM
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2. stanking heepies


dp
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otherlander Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-20-07 10:37 AM
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9. Wow... That's her?
I want that Hillary Clinton to be president. Not the one we have now, who wants to make the health insurance companies fatter and happier, and give military aid to Colombia.
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-20-07 10:45 AM
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12. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think they attended Woodstock?
But Jimmy Hendrix did attend ... and Jimmy Hendrix, et. al., preformed MAGIC!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QJ6B8bKKTS4

As a left handed guitarist, Jimmy Hendrix always be my musician HERO. :loveya:

I wish that I could have been there LIVE. :wow:

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Buns_of_Fire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-21-07 05:52 PM
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23. No problem. Just SAY you were there!
If everyone of my generation was REALLY at Woodstock who SAID they were at Woodstock, there would have been roughly fourteen million people there! Rolling in the mud, fighting for the portapotties, seeing Pete Townshend kick Abbie Hoffman off the stage... Ah, those were the days.

P.S. Don't take the brown acid.

P.P.S. I wasn't there, either.
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-20-07 12:18 AM
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3. A Woodstock museum????
What are they going to show? Mudsoaked sleeping bags? Port o' potties? Because you don't get the feel of the latrine till you're walking to it knee deep in what you devoutly hope is mud.

And let's not forget it was a cow pasture. A cow pasture. All the food shacks on a well-used cow pasture.

Oh, yes. Let's memorialize it. And don't forget the rain.
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dweller Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-20-07 12:53 AM
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4. i remember rain
seems it passed this way once w/out a hurricane.

forgive this old man's reminisce.
dp

As I awoke this evening with the smell of wood smoke clinging
Like a gentle cobweb hanging upon a painted teepee
Oh I went to see my chieftain with my warlance and my woman
For he told us that the yellow moon would very soon be leaving
This I can't believe I said, I can't believe our warlord's dead
Oh he would not leave the chosen ones to the buzzards and the soldiers guns

Oh great father of the Iroquois ever since I was young
I've read the writing of the smoke and breast fed on the sound of drums
I've learned to hurl the tomahawk and ride a painted pony wild
To run the gauntlet of the Sioux, to make a chieftain's daughter mine

And now you ask that I should watch
The red man's race be slowly crushed
What kind of words are these to hear
From Yellow Dog whom white man fears

I take only what is mine Lord, my pony, my squaw, and my child
I can't stay to see you die along with my tribe's pride
I go to search for the yellow moon and the fathers of our sons
Where the red sun sinks in the hills of gold and the healing waters run

Trampling down the prairie rose leaving hoof tracks in the sand
Those who wish to follow me I welcome with my hands
I heard from passing renegades Geronimo was dead
He'd been laying down his weapons when they filled him full of lead

Now there seems no reason why I should carry on
In this land that once was my land I can't find a home
It's lonely and it's quiet and the horse soldiers are coming
And I think it's time I strung my bow and ceased my senseless running
For soon I'll find the yellow moon along with my loved ones
Where the buffaloes graze in clover fields without the sound of guns

And the red sun sinks at last into the hills of gold
And peace to this young warrior comes with a bullet hole

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splat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-20-07 02:41 AM
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5.  16,800-seat outdoor performing arts venue n/t
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silverojo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-20-07 04:07 AM
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6. That's a lot of money to waste on immortalizing stoners
Kids are going without health insurance, and they want a million-dollar grant for crap like this?
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Yupster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-20-07 10:34 AM
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8. Agree Silver
It seems that the ability to fund pet projects with other people's money must be irresistable. I'll criticize it, but I bet if I was elected to congress somehow I'll be proposing remodeling former houses of local petty celebrities or some other wasteful pet projects.

It just seems like some sort of addiction that no one can resist.

Geeze - I sound like Ron Paul.
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acmavm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-20-07 08:09 AM
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7. Woodstock has been memorialized on a movie and a recording. Take
this money and help someone. Rebuild some homes in NO. Get some poor kid who's dying some medical treatment. Do something useful for God's sake.

Woodstock I was a wonderful, unique, historic event. But it doesn't deserve a museum.
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-20-07 11:08 AM
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14. Not to mention the music, the movie, various songs referring to it
capture the spirit. Now there is nothing there - and the festival was not even in Woodstock, a nice Catskills town in its own right.

I would say that a museum - especially a government funded museum - is as as far in spirit as you can get from Woodstock. Listening to the music will capture some of it. This is the type of thing that an existing museum - like the Museum of TV and Radio (http://www.ny.com/museums/MTR.html) could do a fantastic job on using video from television and the reports on the radio. (They once had an audio special where you could listen to radio from when the Beatles came to various US cities. It was cool for my then young teens to hear some of what was the most important thing on my mind as a 13 - 14 year old.)

PS The museum has a huge library of tv shows that you can "order" and watch in their viewing room.
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-20-07 10:39 AM
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10. Bummer Man!
I was too young to attend, but I've been told it was *awesome.*

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John Kerry VonErich Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-20-07 10:40 AM
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11. Why would anyone wanna vote for this outdated pork?
There are more important things than this.
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-20-07 10:53 AM
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13. Because back in 1969, our youth were true activists in every sense of the word.
The atmosphere was electric. Probably because of "The Draft" more and more young people were bucking The Establishment and Questioning Authority. In 1969, we would NOT have let our representatives give away most of our liberties, especially habeas corpus.

The entire country was "radicalized" in one form or another. It was an historic time and Woodstock was an truly historic event. :shrug:
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John Kerry VonErich Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-20-07 12:09 PM
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18. Things like that don't work anymore unfortunately
:(
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otherlander Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-20-07 06:59 PM
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22. Woodstock
was a festival of peace and love, right? So instead of spending government money talking about how great it was, let's spend the money on something that actually helps people, like health care. Wouldn't helping people be more along the lines of the ideals of Woodstock, anyway?

Peace.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-20-07 11:23 AM
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15. Maybe----but the event is an important part of US culture of the era.
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hedgehog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-20-07 11:26 AM
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16. If Ms. Clinton can't get Woodstock through the Senate,
good luck on that universal health care.
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Igel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-20-07 11:31 AM
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17. I think the idea of making cow fields into a pork paddy
was a bad idea.

Then again, I think most pork is a bad idea.

I think it's good that the dems in Congress have--at least on paper, at least so far--reduced the amount of pork from the 2005/06 record repub amounts. But it's not enough.

I think that the amount of embarrassment that it took to remove this trivial portion of pork sausage from a much larger bill dedicated to education and health is itself embarrassing. Put it where it belongs--in a "vote for me, I break home the bacon" bill, in a "let's make sure that there are art centers around so that there's enough economic development" bill, in a "I think we need more venues saying that the way I viewed the world in my youth is best" bill. Whatever. But health and education via a performing arts center to help some moderately wealthy and potential donors?

Please.
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tuckessee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-20-07 12:25 PM
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19. Am I in f*&%#*! bizarro world?
Democrats pushing ridiculous, totally non-socially benefitting pork while Republicans step in to divert the money to a social program for expectant mothers??

Are there any real liberals left in DC?? Have the pod people replaced them all??

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otherlander Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-20-07 06:51 PM
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21. I know!
The Republican's plan for diverting the money to maternity health care actually sounds like a good idea.
Wierd...

It also surprised me that Hillary Clinton would want to pay tribute to the Woodstock festival. Maybe it reminds her of some of the things she used to actually believe in?
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derby378 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-20-07 12:26 PM
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20. Did I just read that a REPUKE is funding the DSCC?
I'm not sure how I should take this. Is Gerry defecting from the Republicans, or is he trying to corrupt Democratic campaigns with red cash?
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alarimer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-21-07 07:07 PM
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24. Anybody have a list of Republican-sponsored pork?
I know there has to be a LOT of it, including the Bridge to Nowhere. Stupid hypocrites.
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