Source: Firings likely in transport of nuclear warheads across U.S.

[sabra]

Source: CNN

WASHINGTON (CNN) -- The Air Force will recommend the firing and disciplining of several service members involved in the mistaken flight of nuclear warheads across the country in August, according to a military official familiar with the investigation.

The source did not want to be identified because not everyone involved has been informed.

The just-concluded investigation into the August 29 incident is expected to recommend the firing of at least five Air Force service personnel and disciplinary action against others for failure to follow safety and security procedures, according to the source.

Criminal charges also are being considered, the source said.

The squadron commander in charge of handling munitions at Minot Air Force Base in North Dakota was relieved of duty soon after the incident.

Read more: http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/10/18/loose.nukes/index.html

[no_hypocrisy]

1. Sounds like punishment for ratting on the project and making them

abort those nuclear missiles going to their ultimate mission.

These guys weren't incompetent or malevolent. They were following orders. Punish whoever issued those orders.

[Greyskye]

3. If that's the case...

...hopefully they won't go down quietly.

And anyone involved who's career, probably isn't going to go quietly if it means that they're taking the fall for someone else.

[Rosa Luxemburg]

8. you could ask Mr Cheney and the Commander in Chief

they are ultimately responsible....for our safety

[Joanne98]

2. Did we find out who transported them yet?

[bagrman]

4. The important thing to find out is who gave the Commander the orders.

[woodsprite]

5. Yeah, I'm sure he didn't make that decision on his own.

Isn't there something in their oath or code that says they don't have to follow orders that are just plain wrong (like going against protocol for shipping nuclear warheads across the US, etc.)? If so, then yeah, they should be punished - if they did it and they knew what they were doing and why, then they should definitely pay the piper. But so should Cheney.

[bagrman]

11. The old "following orders" plea doesn't save you from wrong doing any longer.

[rockybelt]

6. What really happened?

Are we to believe that nuclear weapons are easily mistaken for conventional weapons? Do they stack them up right next to each other? Do they just use a different color nose cone for nukes?
It is inconceivable to me that nuclear weapons were accidentally loaded onto the wing of an aircraft and flown across country.
In my suspicious mind, they were loaded onto the aircraft to be delivered to, oh I don't know, a Middle Eastern country that this administration has been talking about? Not just delivered but dropped on what they think may just possibly be nuclear sites. I say maybe because they don't know for sure where the sites are.
I believe that they were "discovered" when Air Force brass allowed the story to be leaked in time to stop the start of WWIII.:wtf:

[Rosa Luxemburg]

7. sounds fishy to me

[Javaman]

13. Me too. considering many DU'ers are ex-military that have experience

working with the loading and unloading of nukes.

and the very weak explanation that is provided in the article is so full of errors and from the information that I have gleaned on here from the ex-military,I find the reasons in the article very hard to believe.

There seems to be a gigantic ordeal to get nukes checked in and out and on top of that the amount of security that is protecting the nukes is extraordinary.

There would have to be either one giant cluster fuck, some sort of bizarre conspiracy or someone from the high up that gave this the green light, then slink ed away when these guys got caught. I believe the latter.

[Rosa Luxemburg]

14. There is no way these nukes could have got through the stringent checks

some people have been very naughty. Gee what would have happened if Osama Bin Laddin got a hold of them?

[ClayZ]

9. They will fire those who objected and leaked the story....

Keep all those who OBEY illegal orders and all those in favor of "Armageddon".

:hide:



K and R

[peacetalksforall]

10. Which do we have? Whistle blowers? Cheney complicit elves?

A group of men who goofed together?

To repeat?

Whistle blowers?
Cheney helpers?
Incompetents?

Which would most likely be taken to trial?
Which would most likely have a pretend public relations campaign conducted against them?
Which rules did a group of imcompetents miss?

Since the a/c flew to Barksdale and since we learned what Barkdale is - the origin for shipments to Cheney's corporate warfront in the Middle East/Asian West, and -

since someone is leaking that they 'men' will be taken to trial -

we only have to know who the leaker is.

What do we have here?

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[Flabbergasted]

15. Criminal Charges? For what crime? nt