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Prophet 451 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-10-07 03:13 PM
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US DJ criticised over Obama song
Edited on Thu May-10-07 03:38 PM by Prophet 451
Source: BBC News

US talk show host Rush Limbaugh has come under fire for airing a racially charged song about the Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama.
Limbaugh has been playing a song called Barack the Magic Negro, to the tune of Puff the Magic Dragon.

The right-wing talk show host defended himself by saying he is an entertainer and the song is a parody.

Mr Obama, who hopes to become the first black American president, has played down the row.



Read more: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/6642029.stm



Any chance we can get this jerk booted from the air? And is it just me or does the "entertainer" thing only come out when someone calls him on his BS? It's a little like saying "I'm going to shoot W when he comes to Chicago" and then telling the Secret Service guys who turn up on your doorstep "Just kidding".
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Greeby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-10-07 03:14 PM
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1. The BBC needs a word in the ear
He's nto a DJ, he's a hate radio propagandist. Who, if he operated in this country, he'd be pulled off the air and arrested for hate speech
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Prophet 451 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-10-07 03:17 PM
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4. Assuming he could get a show here
I take your point but you know what the Beeb is like...
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BOSSHOG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-10-07 03:15 PM
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2. Everytime the heat is turned on, he's a comedian
And that is fucking hilarious because he sucks at attempting humor. He sucks at everything he's ever tried including marriage, except hating and lying. Those are his only two assets. No wonder he is a hero to the ignorant trash who turn to him for guidance. His mother and father totally failed at parenting skills.
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Deep13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-10-07 03:15 PM
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3. As an apology, he should begin every hour of his show...
Edited on Thu May-10-07 03:16 PM by Deep13
...with Billy Holiday's "Strange Fruit."
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billybob537 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-10-07 08:10 PM
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10. wow I'm listening to Billie H now!
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benld74 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-10-07 03:47 PM
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5. I have YET to hear anything from the MSM on this!
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Deep13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-10-07 03:48 PM
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6. Limbaugh and his accomplices pretty much are the MSM.
:(
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Prophet 451 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-10-07 07:42 PM
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9. Surely the Beeb counts as MSM? n/t
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-10-07 03:52 PM
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7. DJ---disc jockey???
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Prophet 451 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-10-07 07:42 PM
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8. Yeah
The Beeb seem to be under the assumption that anyone on the radio is a DJ.
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regnaD kciN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-11-07 02:02 AM
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26. Well, he used to be one...
...back in the days when he was "Jeff Christie."

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truthisfreedom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-10-07 08:22 PM
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11. Obama once again takes the high road, leaving limpballs in the dust looking like a heel and avoiding
conflict that could make Obama look petty. By always brushing this stuff aside and never bristling, he shows he's above it all. Very good!
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onehandle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-10-07 08:32 PM
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12. Rush is a Racist Fuck satisfying his audience, Racist Fucks!
I believe that Imus tried this same defense.

America?
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Prophet 451 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-10-07 08:37 PM
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14. I'm not sure he is
At least, not in the usual sense. I get the impression that he hates Obama more for being a Dem than for being black and this was just the easiest way to get at him.

Of course, that might make it worse...
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truthisfreedom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-10-07 08:35 PM
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13. rush is from a race too... hillbilly. That's why he loved hillbilly heroin so much.
He lost his hearing as a result of crushing and snorting Vicodin and Oxycontin. The process of crushing Oxycontin pills destroys the slow disbursement of the drug into your system, so that users who snort the dust have a "rush" very similar to snorting Heroin. Unfortunately, the repeated snorting of thousands upon thousands of crushed Vicodin pills causes serious overdoses of Tylenol, also mixed into that drug, which destroyed his hearing.

He pretends that he was "addicted to pain killers" as if he was taking them orally, but we all know he was off getting high out of his mind, not just taking them to keep the pain at bay. Oxycontin has a horrible abuse record... and people who are numbed out on it will say and do absolutely dastardly things, just like heroin addicts.
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Prophet 451 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-10-07 08:38 PM
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15. Word of advice
Be a bit careful about the painkiller addiction bit. I know from experiance how easy it is to get hooked on narcotic painkillers.
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truthisfreedom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-10-07 09:42 PM
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21. I'm well-aware that he was addicted.
My point is that he used so many that it's obvious he was doing it recreationally. Thousands per month? Sorry, but that's recreational use. Were you ever taking 33-99 pills a day? Remember what his maid said about the quantities she was scoring for him on the black market.
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Prophet 451 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-10-07 11:47 PM
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23. I was up to 30 a day at one point
I do take your point but you'd be amazed at the quantities an addict can go through. At my worst, I was quite often taking 30 a day on some hydrocodeine derivative, a dozen somas, whatever I could get hold of essentially. OD'ed at one point and even that didn't stop me.

Limbaugh might well have been doing it recreationally. Just be a little careful with phrasing, that's all.
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UNCLE_Rico Donating Member (124 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-11-07 01:10 AM
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25. WORD to that my friend...
I've been weaning down off a sizable OC habit using buprenorphine for the past 1.5 years. At one (very brief) point, the time around when my grandfather was dying at the hospital (down the street from the condo I *used* to own ...but I digress), I was up to 5 OC 80's a day. Do the math, comes out to about 90 Percocets (thank GOD no APAP involved or I'd be shittin bricks about the liver damage I'd have done to myself ... if I was even still alive to worry about it, that is).

I got it down to 3 of those bad boys a day (at $30 a pop) before making the switch to bupe, but that took me over a year to get around to doing. Meanwhile, I lost my condo, ruined my credit, never even filed taxes let alone paid them, lost a great job (65K/year) cause I couldn't fucking get there on time in the morning.

All started with a shoulder surgery I had on Sept 10, 2001. Woke up in the hospital the next morning in the worst pain of my life and watched the events unfurl from a hospital bed. I somehow knew life had just taken a turn for the much-worse for me, and for my country, immediately upon the first tower falling. I had no idea how correct that guess would turn out to be.

I'm planning on taking my last 2mg tablet of bupe next thursday (i've worked down to this after starting at 24mg/day ... but that's over the 1.5 years), then I'm gonna try biting the bullet and getting off this shit for good.

Did you see the article in the IHT today about the makers of OC plea-bargaining (charges were felony mislabeling) their way into paying a whopping $600 million in fines (sales over the time period in question: $2.4 billion) for admittedly and intentionally conducting a fraudulent and misleading marketing campaign when their diabolical concoction hit the marketplace (which has directly and completely ruined my life for the past 4 years - gee, think there's any extra in that 600 mil, maybe the government would have enough to help pay for people like myself to check in to a nice facility somewhere, instead of having to kick bupe all by myself up in the mountains at my grandma's ('conveniently' vacant since gramps died) house? I'd pay for it myself, but I blew everything I had on their 'less addictive' narcotic ... do you think I should qualify for some friggin AID here? Probably not. I'm sure this payout is all just turf-related 'business' between two rival drug syndicates, one of which being the BFEE.

So, anyways, YEAH, people, its REALLY REALLY REALLY easy to get hooked on prescription narcotics. They are endorphins in a bottle, and when you put them into your system, your system stops making it's own endorphins (and it doesn't start again for a LOOOONG time, and during that long time, it is a fucking living nightmare... as I'm sure you can attest to Prophet ;)
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Prophet 451 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-11-07 02:51 AM
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29. Damn straight
Thanks for the support, mate. You'll get there.
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Prophet 451 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-11-07 12:02 AM
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24. Know what?
On reflection, my personal history may be making me over-sensitive here. If I've busted your chops for no good reason, I apologise.
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UNCLE_Rico Donating Member (124 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-11-07 03:20 AM
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30. Looks like you *believe* you know what your talking about...
So I'll give you credit for trying. In fact, some of what you said is absolutely correct!

But to be quite frank, much of what you're doing is talking out your *ss.

Perhaps my tutorial here will clear things up for you a bit, since I can tell it's important to you that you come across as 'informed'.

FIRST AND FOREMOST I must correct you:

NOBODY. And I mean NOBODY. EVER. EVER. EVER...

Takes VICODIN tablet.

Crushes it up.

And snorts it to their head.

TWICE.

Let alone 'thousands and thousands' of times.

ESPECIALLY not someone who is already an Oxycontin snorter.

Particularly not one with the connections, at least semi-legit pain problems, multiple doctors, and most importantly MILLIONS of DOLLARS, that Limbaugh has.

Now I'll take the time to explain this whole thing to you.

Once you have developed a habit with Oxys PERIOD, the ONLY TIME you fuck around with POS nappy ol' Vicodin is when you are biding your time trying to not get sick before the REAL DRUGS show up. And for a guy like Limbaugh, I seriously doubt he ever had to wait too long, and very rarely at that. And when people take Vicodin, EVEN big ol' POS junkies like Limbaugh, Myself, and a whole bunch of my friends and relatives, they EAT THEM. PERIOD.

The 'Gold Standard' of the Oxycontin world is the green 80mg 'fat boy' as we call them here in Cali. This dose of essentially PURE Oxycodone is the equivalent of 16 (SIXTEEN) Percodan or Percocet tablets in terms of the dope content, yet, it is maybe 25% larger than a Dramamaine pill, or a chewable childrens aspirin. It's less than HALF the size of a Percodan or Percocet, and probably about 33% the size of your typical 5/500 Vicodin. It's really pretty small, believe me.

Now, Oxycodone is a drug which is inherently about 1.5x the strength of Hydrocodone and a features a much nicer buzz ... that's why (surprise!) Percocet is a schedule II triplicate instead of schedule III (not DEA tracked) like Vicodin! It's basically like the difference between $30 an 1/8oz weed and $50 an 1/8 weed, put it to you that way... You could take double the hydro, just like you could double up your bonghits on the $30 shit, but it ain't gonna be the SAME, you feel me?

When crushed, a fat boy yields two nice size lines, combined they are roughly equal in volume to 1/4 gram of cocaine. Sizable rails, but entirely 'doable' one in each nostril. It is in NO WAY unpleasant to snort. It's like it was MADE to be snorted in fact. It doesn't burn, dry-out, or sting your nostrils, it has no odor to speak of, and the drip is a not-at-all unpleasant side effect - far less noxious than any of your typical nose drugs like coke or crystal. No coincidence that people also chew them up and swallow them. They don't even taste particularly bad to crunch up in your mouth, I've done it many many times, sometimes without a chaser. Never slammed anything before though, EVER, and in fact, slamming oxy's is an extremely rare practice. If you're gonna slam, you do real junk, it's made for that method. Oxys ... uh... not so much.

To recap: TWO LINES, reasonably sized, pleasant to snort, EACH ONE contains 40mg oxycodone and little else, which is the equivalent of 12 vicodins (1.5x40mg/5mg) or 8 percocets (40mg/5mg). I used to do this 3x a day for years. Sometimes more.

This sounds right up the ally of the amount Limbaugh was doing, right, assuming someone was doing the conversion of 80mg Oxy=16 percocets, which clearly they WERE because otherwise dude would be DEAD (well, some people could actually do 33x20mg OC tablets a day, but no way 40mg or 80mg OCs. Even with 20's, that's... whew, that's just too many unless you're really like 25-year hardcore junkie). You followin' me so far?
I hope so :)

Now, hopefully you understand the maths here, cause if you do, it shouldn't be too difficult to grasp the idea that, for all intents and purposes, Vicodin is simply NOT A SNORTABLE DRUG. Oh, sure, maybe to some teenager who's experimenting with shit the first time, they might TRY doing it that way, but...

Here's the thing, remember the size of the pills I was referring to before? A Vicodin tablet is...a honkin' horsepill, quite frankly. It contains acetaminophen and hydrocodone in a ratio of 100 TO 1. 500mg tylenol, 5mg Hydrocodone. When you crush that horsepill up, you find yourself staring at a pile that looks like about a GRAM of cocaine would look. It's easily 4x the amount of powder of an 80mg oxycontin. And that's ONE vicodin. Now, doing the maths here, I snort one vicodin, it makes 8 lines instead of 2 for an OC80. And the OC80, as I showed above, equals about 24 vicodin in terms of 'drug' so, lets see that'd be 4x24=96. In order to match buzz for buzz, I have to do 96 (that's NINETY SIX, correct) LINES of Vicodin tablets (24 ENTIRE horsepills up my nose, yes) to get the equivalent dose as I get snorting my ONE OC80.

Now, besides that simple math, you have to couple in the following reality: Snorting Tylenol (basically what you're doing sniffing a Vicodin) is somewhere on the 'pleasantness' scale between sniffing a line of ground up chalk, and a line of the green crusty shit that forms on the top of the terminals on your car battery. IOW, you figure it out VERY QUICKLY the first time you make the mistake of insufflating 500Mg of acetaminophen in order to extract the measly 5mg of hydrocodone out of it. You figure it out quickly that using you nasal membranes instead of your stomach lining for this task is a NOT a good idea ... as you proceed to go screaming to the bathroom and start madly sniffing water droplets off the tips of your fingers going 'oh...my...god...what the FUCK was I THINKING just now?!?"

After that first time, I PROMISE YOU, you eat vicodin from then on. And if you have shit for brains you realize that you can't take 64 vicodin a day for very long without DYING, let alone wrecking your hearing (the studies that show that effect, by the way, are actually quite inconclusive. As you admit, that problem, if it DOES exist, is solely due to the acetaminophen, NOT the dope itself.

Yet, the fact is, you actually have NO IDEA how much vicodin (and hence tylenol) Rush was taking, do you?

I can tell you for a fact that EVERY OC addict I HAVE EVER KNOWN (and that is quite a few people) only takes Vicodin occasionally, and in minimal doses ONLY when needed for real pain or to stave off dopesickness. All of us junkies know that if we tried to replace our OC intake with Vicodin (mg per mg equivalency) we would destroy our livers. Not only that, but, street values, vicodin is actually more expensive in most instances, so it makes absolutely no sense to use it unless we absolutely have to.

Now, to rebuff one last point you attempt to make above, I know MANY PEOPLE who are LEGITIMATELY PRESCRIBED 3 or 4 and even 5 80mg oxycontin tablets a day (again, each of those = 16 percocets in a 12hour time release form if taken whole). Some of these people, I made very very good friends with, if you catch my drift. My dad, in fact, who has been on Oxycontin since 2000 due to massive legitimate pain problems, gets just under that amount now, but when he's in real bad shape, he's been upped to as much 320mg a day, or 4x80mg by his doctor. It's not that uncommon if you have a nice doctor and legit problems and aren't worried about taking opiates the rest of your life, as my dad fits all three categories. So, your assertion that taking 33 pills a day makes you 'clearly' a recreational user is totally bull-pucky my friend. Even if Oxy and Hydro were = in strength, that's still only 2 pills of 80mg Oxycontin a day.

The only thing you're actually correct about is the abuse profile of Oxycontin. It's the STRAIGHT DOPE, of course it's gonna get abused. Much as I hate Rush Limbaugh, whether I myself was a junkie or not, I'm not going to condemn him for needing/taking or even enjoying opiates. Our bodies are physiologically designed to get addicted to opiates if we take them on a regular basis . We have 'devices' on the surface of certain types of nerve cells throughout our bodies that are MEDICALLY, technically referred to as opiate-receptors for godsake, and opiates function chemically identically to our own natural 'feel-good' chemicals called endorphins.

Given that it is literally impossible to take opiate drugs for any substantial length of time and not develop physical dependence on them, and they are the best pain-killers science has come up with (how bout that, it's derived from a natural source they figured out worked for this purpose thousands of years ago ...), addiction/dependence is to be expected, tolerated, and understood as a side-effect of this type of drug.
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Danger Mouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-10-07 09:04 PM
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16. Entertainer?
Nooo...Rush, you meant to say 'Fat, racist idiot gasbag.' It amazes me that people listen to his sleaze. I think it'd be a good test for whether people should breed or not, though.
They actually CALL themselves dittoheads. It amazes me. They admit to being mindless zombie fuckheads. They're PROUD of it. How any one could want to associate with that greasy tub of guts is beyond me, but hey, I guess every society has to have its dregs.
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Prophet 451 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-10-07 09:17 PM
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17. Notice something...
You notice how even when he's been blatantly caught out, he can't just say "Sorry, my bad", he has to take a shot and insinuate it's the Dems fault?
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Danger Mouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-10-07 09:22 PM
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18. He's an arrogant turd who doesn't take responsibility for anything.
His farts smell like flowers, he shits daisies, and his B.O. smells of apple pie.

He's essentially a glazed ham with legs and stubby arms. Slime, scum, and worthless pieces of shit look down on him. He's a malignant boil on the ass of humanity, and his braindead little followers only serve to boost his ego so that it is as bloated as his ass.
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Prophet 451 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-10-07 09:33 PM
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20. Bravo Sir! n/t
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Danger Mouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-10-07 10:13 PM
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22. *bows* thankyew, thankyew...
people like rush and o'reilly can really cause me to spew venom, what can i say?
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DemSoccerMom Donating Member (168 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-10-07 09:24 PM
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19. Yes, Rush IS a DJ . . .
in the same way Roseanne Barr is a supermodel. :crazy:
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psychopomp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-11-07 02:07 AM
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27. Not the "first black president"
Sen. Obama is just as "white" as he is "black." It could be said that he would be a white president and it would be just as true.
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DFW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-11-07 02:09 AM
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28. How about this version of Puff the Magic Dragon (sorry Rush)
Rush the racist D J had a big gut
The girth of it was only matched
By his pimpled butt
Rush the racist D J was a bag of gas
And blew out hate and lies and such
Mostly through his ass.

One great day it happened
His cover worked no more
Fin-al-ly, the rednecks woke
And re-a-lized the score
His listeners dropped to zero
His ranting went unheard
And Rush the racist D J, well
They dropped him like a turd! Oh,

Rush the racist D J had a big gut
The girth of it was only matched
By his pimpled butt
Rush the racist D J was a bag of gas
And blew out hate and lies and such
Mostly through his ass.
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