Coalition should 'admit defeat and leave Iraq'

[ckramer]

Source: Telegraph

Asked on BBC2's Newsnight if he thought the insurgents were right to try to get the American forces out of Iraq, he said: "Yes I do.

"As Lord Chatham said, when he was speaking on the British presence in North America, he said 'if I was an American, as I am an Englishman, as long as one Englishman remained on American native soil, I would never, never, never lay down my arms'.

"The Iraqi insurgents feel exactly the same way. I don't excuse them for some of the terrible things they do, but I do understand why they are resisting the Americans."

He added: "It is the soldiers who have been telling me from the front line that the war they have been fighting is a hopeless war, that they cannot possibly win it and the sooner we start talking politics and not military solutions, the sooner they will come home and their lives will be preserved."

Asked if that meant admitting defeat, he said: "Of course we have to admit defeat.



Read more: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2007/05/03/nrose103.xml

[iamjoy]

1. We Should Never Admit Defeat

We should claim victory and gracefully exit.

Sadaam is gone. They have a democratically elected government. Mission accomplished, no? Why should we involve ourselves with their internal struggles?

[npincus]

5. agreed... this could have been done 3,000+ American lives ago

and countless Iraqi lives ago.

[IndyOp]

7. Winning/defeat has no meaning in Iraq. Did Hitler "win" the holocaust?

Did Pinochet win? How about Idi Amin? Pol Pot?

We invaded to destroy their nation as it existed, to bend the population to the will of international/US corporate elite -- and if killing a few hundred thousand human beings helped us reach our economic, hegemonic goals then, hey - it just had to be done.

Do you really want evil to "win"?

They have a democratically elected government. Bullshit.
Mission accomplished - evil accomplished - SURE!

WE have to stop playing the public relations war and start speaking truth all the time.

[Rude Horner]

2. If we admitted defeat

the flag waving, RW fascists heads would collectively explode.

Not that that's a bad thing. :evilgrin:

[Demeter]

4. Don't Be Greedy!

Their heads will explode when they lose the White House and their filibuster numbers.

[Demeter]

3. End the Occupation!

Don't call it a war, and then there's no defeat. End the occupation--tell the Iraqis they're on their own, and get out.

[rodeodance]

6. oh heck-just declair Victory and leave.