Bush to Democrats: do not 'test my will' on Iraq

[maddezmom]

Source: AFP

Bush to Democrats: do not 'test my will' on Iraq 23 minutes ago



CAMP DAVID, United States (AFP) - President George W. Bush warned Democrats Friday not to "test my will" by passing new legislation on a US troop pullout from Iraq after he vetoes a bill passed by Congress this week.

Bush invited Democrats and leaders of his Republican Party to discuss a way out of their standoff soon after he strikes down the bill, which ties 124 billion dollars in war funds to a withdrawal that would start on October 1.

"And if the Congress wants to test my will as to whether or not I'll accept the timetable for withdrawal, I won't accept one," he told a news conference at his retreat in Camp David, Maryland, alongside Japanese Prime Minister Shinzo Abe.

"So if they want to try again that which I have said was unacceptable, then of course I'll veto it," Bush said.

"But I hope it doesn't come to that. I believe we can work a way forward. And I think we can come to our senses and make sure that we get the money to the troops in a timely fashion," he said.



Read more: http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20070427/pl_afp/uscongressiraq_070427173750

[MaineDem]

1. He expects everyone - but himself - to compromise.

It's hard work being President.

[BrokenBeyondRepair]

35. why would he expect otherwise? the opposition conveniently caves in every time

[ryanmuegge]

52. Yeah, that's a large part of the problem. Of course, he's had a rubber stamp for 7 years.

So there hasn't been much the opposition could do.

[Kikosexy2]

57. Keep giving him...

bills with timetables and keep framing how uncompromising and stubborn he is and he's the one who's keeping our troops lingering in his illegal quagmire of a war...

[Joe Bacon]

104. Bush has a will?

He WON'T:

1) adequately train our troops, OR
2) Provide full body armor, OR
3) Armor plate all the hummers, OR
4) Provide support for our soldiers, OR
5) Respect them if they aren't Christian, OR
6) change their bed linens when they're wounded, OR
7) provide adequate time between tours of duty, OR
8) provide adequate health care for them

Is it too much to ask for just ONE democrat to say they will Test Bush's WON'T????

[Joe Chi Minh]

54. You mean, "capitulate".

[MaineDem]

59. That works for me. n/t

[Demeter]

2. OOOOh! I'm SCARED!!

George, honey, you've crossed far too many lines recently to go drawing any of your own.

[bemildred]

31. Bush violates Bemildred's first law of intimidation:

If you want to threaten someone, you have to use something they are afraid of.

It appears to me that both Ms Rice and Mr Bush are on weak ground, and are attempting to dissemble that with bluster.

[Don Claybrook]

3. Tough talk for a guy with lower approval ratings than pond scum

Eat it, fuckhead. No one asked about you and your "will".

[calimary]

72. Or as I've been exhorting every Democrat I've called today -

TIGHTEN THE SCREWS, DEMS. TIGHTEN THE SCREWS.

If he gives 'em any trouble, I suggest they ask him if he's heard about HR333.

Bullies need to be CONFRONTED. It's the only thing they know, it's the only thing they fear - they'll try to use it on you first, so you'll be all nice 'n' scared and intimidated before you get up the nerve to try it on them. HAH!

How old is this prick, anyway? SIXTY?

Do you guys realize that THIS, NOW, is perhaps the very FIRST time in this useless piece of shit's life in which he's EVER been told "NO!"? Actually, I'd prefer "NO, DAMMIT, FUCKWAD!" But then again I can get kinda crude... :evilgrin:

[AzDar]

4. Time to rid ourselves of another delusional King George. n/t

[babylonsister]

5. Sounds a bit testy, doesn't he. Whatcha gonna do, dimson? nt

[formercia]

25. suspend the Congress

and declare martial law.

[babylonsister]

46. I don't think he'd get away with that. nt

[formercia]

48. Shh, he might figure that out. n/t

:evilgrin:

[gratuitous]

6. Let's negotiate - Do it my murderously inept way or else!

Someone might want to review the 2006 election results with Commander Bunnypants. You don't have a mandate, if you ever did, and the people you're supposed to be serving have turned against you and against your open-ended invasion and occupation. Get with the program, or get left behind.

[no_hypocrisy]

7. Or else what, sucker?! I double dog dare ya to veto that Bill.

[ryanmuegge]

55. Oh, he'll take you up on that dare, believe me. He's not afraid to do it.

I don't know what negative consequences he possibly faces for vetoing the bill. His approval numbers are irreparably shot. He doesn't give a fuck what you, I, or anyone other than the super rich thinks. He doesn't even have to PRETEND to give a fuck anymore. This is, again, because there are no negative consequences for him (or even his party, since many are taking nuanced views to distance themselves while supporting the same general policy).

If you said that to his face, he'd say "fuck you. I don't care what you think, bitch."

Democracy is dead, ya know? It died in January of 2001.

This post is not a slight against you, but it's just something I could envision him saying, given what we know about the Great Emporer's character.

[no_hypocrisy]

58. No problem. Your take on his response is expected and not a shock.

The guy is just disagreeable no matter what the situation is. After all, he's a punk rat bag.

[ryanmuegge]

62. Indeed he is.

[MLFerrell]

90. "It died in January of 2001."

Nope. It died on December 12, 2000.

[marylanddem]

He thinks he's the freaking king - what a shameful POS he truly is.

[PassingFair]

109. KING? Thy WILL BE DONE? He thinks he's GAWD! ...n/t

[hedgehog]

123. He does sound like the voice of God from innumberable bad

Bible movies!

[shain from kane]

8. The Committed Bush*, coming to an insane asylum near you.

[rox63]

9. Test away, Dems!

He's double-dog daring us. :P

[maddezmom]

11. he's such a bully

:argh:

[Dyedinthewoolliberal]

10. Note to all here

Time to take off the gloves. I have emailed my Senators and Representative several times about how the man in the White House needs a basic 6th grade civics course. I am emailing them again today and espressing my wishes that they exercise their collective powers. If he vetoes send him another bill identical to the one he vetoed. Do it over and over and over again.......... :mad:

[fooj]

12. Hey dickhead...what about you quit using SUPPLEMENTALS?

Whose fault is it that you continually REFUSE to put military funding into the budget??? Asshole.

[sinkingfeeling]

13. How about they 'test your brain' instead? Then they can declare you as unfit to hold the office.

I think they should give him enough funding for 6 more months and tell him that's all there will ever be.

[MaineDem]

16. Or a urine test for illegal substances. n/t

[reprobate]

112. Or a DNA test to see if he actually IS human, or a monkey as we all thought.

[Truth2Tell]

115. So we just give him 500 or so more dead Americans?

at the present rate? And then that's it. We swear. Really. No more after that.

[KeepItReal]

14. Can't stand the way the "press" calls this "legislation on US troop pullout"

As if that is the only thing being handed to Bush & Co. for signature/veto.

This is the frackin U.S. TROOP FUNDING BILL with provisions for withdrawing from Iraq.

I don't understand why he won't just sign the Troop Funding Bill and just add another of his asinine signing statements saying he does not believe he has to follow any timetable set by Congress because he is the CinC.

[uncle ray]

60. the thing is

the portion of the bill regarding a pullout date, as i understand it, is non-binding. he doesn't even need a signing statement, he can just sign the bill and ignore the date.

[Josh]

102. From what I've heard, the final date is advisory, the October beginning date

is more mandatory. I could be wrong, but that's what I've led to believe.

[tridim]

15. Too late fuckface, it's already passed.

We'll be testing lots of your traits and illegal actions in the coming year. Get used to it asshole.

[underpants]

17. How many times have the WH or the RW machine or the press said this?

I looked for some hard quotes but didn't find much. I swear that I have heard the usuall suspects saying that
1. the measure would never pass the House
2. the measure was useless because it was going to be vetoed anyway so there was no need to pass it
3.it would never stand up to a second vote (Two HUGE wins for Pelosi-not that the Corporate press would dare mention it)
4.they would never get together with the Senate on this
5.NO WAY both houses would pass a compromise bill again
6. repeat #2 more than necessary

Now Bush wants to appear to be standing up and staring the Dems (and some Republicans who wouldn't mind getting elected again) down but no one cares anymore.

I love this. Let him veto it. Send up the next one with the deadlines moved up a day and continue until he signs it. The "narrow" wins are going to get wider and wider everytime W tries to bully them and then gets told to sit down.

[maddezmom]

18. I like your plan

:thumbsup:

[calimary]

77. So do I!

Tighten the screws, Dems! Tighten the screws!

:evilgrin:

[Canuckistanian]

98. Sound like a plan

Just keep staring him down. He'll buckle like a cheap Walmart table.

[Tom Joad]

19. Do us all a favor Dems... don't pass any more bills to spend money on Iraq

Let them all come home now, not later.

[maxrandb]

20. He's demanding a ransom for our troops

This article needs to be sent to every member of the House and Senate.

I'm sorry *, but your flight-suit don't impress me. Here's why the House and Senate ought to send him a bill with a "shorter" time-line.

- The American People are not behind this pretzledent.
- Despite the best efforts of the LameStream Media, the Democrats have won this fight. The American People know that this bill funds the troops.
- Rush Limbaugh is shedding listeners and radio stations like a Border Collie in Pascagoula, MS in August. He can't do anything but drum up the "20 percenters"
- IT'S THE RIGHT THING TO DO
- The best way to deal with a bully is to stand up to him and "punch him in the mouth".
- We did not elect a king.
- We don't negotiate with terrorist.
- Everytime someone has stood up to this empty suit, he's caved.
- Impeachment is back on the table.

I could go on and on, but better yet, I'm writing a letter and an e-mail to Senator Warner. If he really believes in the power of the Senate. If he really believes that our troops should not be held hostage by a madman, then he will vote to over-ride this bullies veto.

[harun]

21. They should move the deadline back 1 day, then send it

to him again
* let him vetoe it
* move back 1 day
* send to him again
* let him vetoe
* rinse and repeat, repeat, repeat...

[Writer]

22. What a child.

He sounds like a child playing cowboys and indians, "Don't test mah will, pardner, er else ah'll shoot ya in the nethers."

What a fucking joke.

[blitzen]

23. All Hail the Will of Our Leader!!! n/t

[mnhtnbb]

24. Pelosi made a strategic error when taking impeachment off the table.

This is the kind of crap Congress will continue to have to deal with until
Jan 2009.

[rocktivity]

108. Pelosi may have no choice but to put impeachment back on the table

especially if the preponderance of the evidence "forces" her to...

:evilgrin:
rocknation

[reprobate]

113. I believe that was her intention in the first place.

IE, take impeachment off the table to defang the right wing noise machine. Then let the congress hold hearings into all the misadventures this criminal gang engaged in. Let the evidence build, publicly, until the public demands for impeachment of both Banana Brain and Darth Crashcart reach a crescendo.

That's the kind of political thinking that a real political leader would admire.

[enki23]

26. grandiose little fuck, isn't he?

listen up, any bush toadies who happen to be reading this: this is not a dictatorship, elected or otherwise. the government is only legitimate so far as it represents the will of the american people. and the american people will this bastard to get us the hell out of iraq. tell the tantrum-throwing child to buck up and do the job his boss demands of him, or to fucking resign.

[Beetwasher]

27. EVERY WEEK THEY SHOULD MAKE HIM VETO A FUNDING BILL

The Repubs will LOVE that going into '08. Every fucking week, asshole.

[Gen. Jack D. Ripper]

28. He still thinks this is a personal issue

a battle between "us and them." Your will is, or, at least should be, irrelevant. It's the people's will you should be concerned about. The people who's will it is to end this war as soon as possible.

How a man can reach such an office with so little understanding, or, for that matter, respect for the process of government he represents is one of the great travesties of our time.

[yellowcanine]

29. Bush to Dems, I am holding my breath until you do what I say. I am the decider.

[MGKrebs]

30. "Don't make me stop this car!"

[maddezmom]

33. LOL

:rofl:

[geardaddy]

32. Get lost, loser.

[Vinca]

34. AAAARRRRRGGGGHHHH! It's never going to end.

Never, never, never, never, never. I can't stand it. Go away George . . . far, far away. I never imagined I could dislike anyone in public office as much as I dislike this guy. What a complete and total fool.:banghead:

[HuffleClaw]

36. a paper tiger at best

and he knows it.

[krispos42]

37. How about we test his competence instead?

It would be the first negative score in history

[bobthedrummer]

38. i.e."Triumph of the Will"-just like the Nazi influence in your evil heart Mr. Bush.

We, the people put the Democrats into the positions they hold-we, the people sent our message through a highly corrupted system.

We, the people have had enough of your criminal regime and it's total war traitors loyal to anything but our Constitution and other quaint pieces of paper.

This goes beyond partisanship, will or anything else you lying traitor-WE KNOW THAT.

[Yukari Yakumo]

39. My what chutzpah...

He says he wants to compromise, but then say he'll veto anything with a timetable on it.

In so many words, he wants it his way or no way. The "compromise" talk is solely there for sound bites.

If this twit want to play Chicken, I say we're game. Considering the people do not support his war anymore, let's see who blinks first.

[ShortnFiery]

41. Bush to The American People:

[stray cat]

40. Since his competence has been tested and failed miserably!

[cosmic _mind]

42. can we

IMPEACH the maniac already please...?!?!

[E-Z-B]

43. We can't leave now. What about all that oil?

That was the true intention all along, afterall.

[anotherdrew]

44. impeach, convict and imprison for life - this piece of human garbage needs to go n/t

[Warren Stupidity]

45. Fuck him and his will.

Test it. He is an idiot.

[EC]

47. What a fool...

All the Dems have to do is keep pushing this bill back into his face, while working on the needed votes to over-ride the veto and pass it with 2/3's...I'm sure there are some Republics that can use some pork, just bribe them (the way they do) plus wasn't there like 3 Dems that voted against it? Get the 2 we can to vote for it (Liberman's a lost cause). Just keep pushing it back in his face....

[HughBeaumont]

49. I'm sorry, did you just tell the American people, YOUR employer, to fuck themselves?

Did you also just tell the military and their families that much much more of them have to die to make your rich crony friends richer until 1.20.2009?

This piece of restaurant quality SHIT and the asswipes that made the elections close enough to steal boil my BLOOD!! Resign NOW, fucko. You no longer have the rubber-stamp congress of your first term and now your crying like a spoiled BRAT because you feel your reign is being challenged. You're trying to throw your weight around on a nation that hates you more than any single human being on earth, save Fred Phelps.

History is going to remember you as an ineffective legacy paper president; a megalomaniac who listened only to himself and his handlers. You chose to go tits up for the House of Saud and defense industries and the rest of America is paying the price.

But you're right about one thing. You have more in common with Reagan than you know. That's NOT a compliment, in case you were wondering.

[BlueStater]

50. Let's test it

We already know the little shit doesn't like being defied. If anything, we'll get quite a few notable temper tantrums from this.

[rodeodance]

53. yeah---------test it Dems!

[rodeodance]

51. "we can come to our senses"------who is the 'we"???

[Rosa Luxemburg]

75. good question

[Joanne98]

56. It's always about him.

[BigDDem]

61. Time for Dumbya to use some more of that

"political capital."

[liberal N proud]

63. Someone needs to prove to him and his regime that he is not King!

I think they should test him right out the door and into the paddy wagon.

[RestoreGore]

64. It's about the will of the people, jackass

Please, get him out of there.

[Benhurst]

65. Bush is right.

It's time to stop testing his will. It's time to impeach him, convict him, indict him and convict him. Send his sorry ass straight from the White House to the Federal Prison in Atlanta.

[Rosa Luxemburg]

73. Atlanta is too nice for him

[sakabatou]

66. What-EVER!

[0rganism]

67. bush is not playing his strong suite there

W's major leadership asset has always been carelessness and willfull ignorance of consequence, played from a position of overwhelming advantages. By framing this as a test of wills between peers rather than a minor difference to be overcome through ignoring the opinions of "lessers" (i.e., everyone but him), he has basically hog-tied himself in a losing position on unfamiliar grounds. Worse still, he thinks he's taking a position of strength when he's only coming across as an arrogant dipshit -- very toddleresque.

The "winning" position for him was to sign the bill, feigning bipartisanship, then ignore the non-binding timetable. It would hardly be the first time he's selectively applied the laws to his own liking, and not even the most egregious. He could basically continue doing whatever the hell he wants, we'd all be used to it, and nothing would change.

Now he can't sign anything except a "pure" bill, and the Democrats will use this rigidity to political advantage. Looks like he's been getting bad advice lately. Maybe Karl Rove is off his game?

[sutz12]

95. You lost me at "W's major leadership asset "

Sorry, but IMO, he has no leadership assests, or qualifications, or ability.

[KansDem]

68. OK, let me put this the old-fashioned way, Mr. Bush...

,!,,

[calimary]

79. Hey! I like that one!

This one's for YOU, george!

,!,,

I like that one A LOT! Thanks, KansDem!

Oooo... I can do it with BOTH hands!

,!,, ,,!,

,,!, :P ,!,,

[KansDem]

111. DUer intaglio showed me this...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=385x24242">Rohrabacher 'I hope it's your families that suffer the consequences"

You can even use your toes, too!

,!,, ,,!,
,!,, ,,!,

(Just gotta remember to keep the big toe tucked in! :D)

[MasonJar]

69. Now there is a threat for the ages! Bush may be the latest Nero,

but I am sure no one on Capitol Hill is worrying about a Bush "thumbs down."

[katty]

70. Screw you, bush! you've tested OUR PATIENCE TOO LONG!

[cliss]

71. Check out this photo, [from AP]

Look at the bags under George's eyes.



Why, I distinctly remember The Ole Boy saying, just recently , "I sleep better than people would think".

Really? :smoke:

[Rosa Luxemburg]

74. don't worry he's very nervous

[calimary]

81. Actually he probably still does. Because he's a psychopath/sociopath.

He's got no heart. He's got no soul. He's got no conscience. And he's either drunk or heavily medicated - or both.

[Jacobin]

76. Whining for his blood allowance for his bloodbath from his parents

what a loser

[kurth]

78. Yeah, Thy Will Be Done

Asshole President.

[calimary]

82. Yes. Done. Like a Thanksgiving turkey.

,,!, :P ,!,,

Dang, I love that one! Thanks, KansDem! :thumbsup:

[laylah]

80. What a dickless wonder! n/t

[Sapere aude]

83. Offer him a few months of spending then cut the spending.

[never cry wolf]

84. FU bush and your will, your will has brought us pain and suffering

Test his fucking will dems, keep sending bills back that are one signature away from ending this nightmare, call his fucking bluff and let him be the one to not support the troops! fuck his tunnel vision and obstinance, make him bend for a change...

[Orsino]

85. "Bring it on."

Come on, Georgie. You're not gonna leave our troops stranded in the desert, are you?

But knock off the macho posturing. It makes you look stupid when in the same paragraph you're begging Congress not to force you to veto.

[JerseygirlCT]

86. Is he trying to sound like an emperor or what? nt

[w4rma]

87. Spoiled dictatortot. (nt)

[superconnected]

88. So it's not the will of the people, it's Georges will. thought so.

[sallyseven]

Reply to bush

We will all bend over and you can kiss our posteriors. How dare he the little chimp.

[sallyseven]

89. Reply to bush

We will all bend over and you can kiss our posteriors. How dare he the little chimp.

[rocktivity]

91. Do not "test his will?" Like Samuel L. Jackson's in Pulp Fiction?

"The path of the righteous man is beset on all sides by the iniquities of the selfish and the tyranny of evil men. Blessed is he, who in the name of charity and good will, shepherds the weak through the valley of darkness, for he is truly his brother's keeper and the finder of lost children. And I will strike down upon thee with great vengeance and furious anger those who would attempt to poison and destroy my brothers. And you will know my name is THE LORD when I lay my vengeance upon thee!"

:eyes:
rocknation

[Maddy McCall]

92. He really enjoys this uber-paternalistic role. "Test my will..."

What's he gonna do? Spank them?

I think congress should just keep sending back and back and back and let him veto, veto, veto.

Then it is HIM refusing to fund our military.

[scarface2004]

93. hey george effing bush!!! test this!!

harry reid snarls as he grabs his crotch!!!

[dansolo]

94. Bush will have as much success as Newt did

Newt's downfall came, in part, because of his shutdown of the government. Even if people still blindly follow the "Support the Troops" mentality, they are mostly in favor of setting a timetable for withdrawal. If Bush continues to stubbornly refuse to compromise, and he single handedly blocks funding for the troops, he will be the one that will be blamed, not the Democrats.

[Theduckno2]

96. Conceit, Hubris, Ineptness, Maniacal, Petulance.

Put them all together and what do they spell? CHIMP

[Canuckistanian]

97. Just name the time and place, bucko

And I'll give you a chance to 'test your will'.

[young_at_heart]

99. He really comes across as being a very stubborn man

How many times has he said something about moving forward (or similar words)? It seems as though we're moving backward with him. Maybe his will should have been tested years ago.

[deucemagnet]

100. Say "hello" to my little friend, Mr. Bush.

[Bluestar]

101. Oh no! Is Daddy coming home all drunk and itchin' for a fight again?

Ooooh! I'm so scared! Did the nasty old Dems make Daddy mad? I'm shakin in my boots!

What a disgusting degenerate Bush is. He should be dealt with like the drunken bully he is.

[Diane R]

103. So he's holding his breath and turning purple?

[Kool Kitty]

105. Yes, and stamping his little feet.

Good God, we have a President that throws temper tantrums! What, is he six years old?

[strizi64]

106. LOL, go cheney yourself n/t

[tomg]

107. Impeach him. Actually, get rid of

Cheney first, and then impeach Bush. My second choice is that the whole country votes to have him committed as a danger to himself and others.

[skooooo]

110. F**** YOU George!

[reprobate]

114. Gravel had the right idea at the debate the other night.

Let Banana Brain veto the bill, and then bring it up in the senate again and every day, hold a cloture vote until you have a 2/3 majority to override a veto. I'd suggest that it wouldn't be too many days until you have the needed super majority, if every repug had to show the people every day on whose side they stood.

Within a week you'd have the entire repug party abandon the Fuhrer, and we could begin pulling our people out of hell. THAT'S the will of the people.

[greblc]

116. Test away!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Matilda]

117. "Bring it On" Replayed.

He should remember how that turned out.

[symbolman]

118. Bush needs an edjamacation

Here's the SchoolHouse Rock : "I'm Just a Bill"

Watch it Bush, you SCUMBAG, you might learn something :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mEJL2Uuv-oQ


Spread the word, Bush is VETOING THE FUNDING FOR HIS OWN WAR! If THAT ain't nuts, and joe sixpack can see that, then I don't know what IS..

[Massachusetts]

119. "The day for honoring yourself, will soon be at an end."

"So if they want to try again that which I have said was unacceptable, then of course I'll veto it," Bush said.

[MGD]

120. Let him veto it. We can send it right back to him. In the end, he will cut off funding, not us.

[bdamomma]

121. do not test our will *'ie.

what don't they get, we are occupying a country that did NOTHING to us, they can take that pre emptive shit and shove it!!

[classysassy]

122. Reinstate the draft

and the unelected fraud,will lose the support of his rich friends.The fear of their kids going to war,will end this insane war.

[RiverStone]

124. Can We The People of this great country respond to Shrub with....

Do NOT test OUR will when it comes to continuing this insane war!

WTF does king George think, that it is all about his will - oh, that's right - he sees himself as the "decider".

Does not the President work for the people? :shrug:

[RBInMaine]

125. Piss on his "will"! Elections have consequences!!

The Congress is following the "will" of the American people, and elections have consequences. When he vetoes, they should send him another bill with a time table and conditions! I didn't work my ass off to elect Democrats just to have them be weak-kneed wimps! The public is behind US, and elections have consequences. Make HIM back down this time!!