Woman injured in shooting at CNN Center (CNN 2:01 pm EDT)

[tiptoe]

Source: CNN POSTED: 2:01 p.m. EDT, April 3, 2007

ATLANTA, Georgia (CNN) -- A gunman shot a woman Tuesday at Atlanta's CNN Center complex. A witness who is a CNN employee saw a male shoot a black female twice near the Omni Hotel, which is part of CNN Center.

Police have a suspect in custody. The condition of the woman is unknown.

"I heard a loud bang and thought it strange that it was much louder than the normal loud noises we hear in the newsroom,' said the witness, writer Brad Lendon. "I walked around my desk to look through the glass doors."

I saw a woman on the ground next to a potted plant. A black man stood over her and fired at least two shots into her. After the shots, he looked around, his head turning in my direction. I don't know if he saw me, but at that moment the gravity of what I'd witnessed hit me. I turned away and tried to find the safest way I could out of the CNN.com newsroom."

The CNN.com newsroom, which is near the Omni, was evacuated.
...



Read more: http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/04/03/cnn.shooting/index.html

[slackmaster]

1. Did MSNBC scoop this before CNN?

:crazy:

[xultar]

6. I'm sure the folks @ CNN were a little busy at the time.

[tiptoe]

13. Multiple shots fired inside CNN building (MSNBC 10:51am PT)

BREAKING NEWS
MSNBC staff and news service reports
Updated: 10:51 a.m. PT April 3, 2007
ATLANTA - Multiple shots were reported fired inside the CNN building Tuesday. Two people have been transported to a nearby hospital. Their conditions are unknown, according to a CNN broadcast.

CNN reports a suspect is in custody after the shots were fired inside its headquarters complex.

This breaking story will be updated.

The Associated Press contributed to this report


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CNN's story was posted at 2:01pm EST, MSNBC's at 10:51am PT

[buff2]

2. That's terrible

Thank goodness they have the person who did this in custody. A lot of loose cannon nuts running around out there. :scared:

[tiptoe]

3. At least 2 wounded in shooting near CNN Center complex (Developing)

RAW STORY

At least two people were wounded in a shooting that took place near the CNN Center complex in Atlanta, Georgia, the cable news channel is reporting.

"A witness who is a CNN employee saw a male shoot a black female twice at the Omni hotel, which is part of CNN Center," the cable channel reports.

The newsroom for CNN.com was evacuated after the incident, which was believed to have been the result of an argument that went out of hand. One suspect has been taken into custody by the authorities.

Developing...

[napi21]

4. It wasn't the CNN bldg. It was the Omni Hotel next door.

It has been on CNn for about 15 minutes now.

Really weird story too! A guy and a lady were having an agrument, the gguy shot her in the face and started draging her up the hotel escalator! He's in custody.

He was dragging her by her HAIR!!!!

[RubyDuby in GA]

16. They are connected and share common space

It was near the very busy food court inside the common area.

[Radio_Lady]

70. UPDATING THIS STORY AT 4 PM EASTERN... no names released yet.

More at link: http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/04/03/cnn.shooting/index.html

Official: Woman confirmed dead after CNN Center shooting

POSTED: 3:52 p.m. EDT, April 3, 2007
* NEW: Woman dead after shooting at CNN center, official says
• NEW: The woman was pregnant
• Atlanta police describe shooting as "domestic situation"
• CNN writer witnesses man shoot woman twice near newsroom

ATLANTA, Georgia (CNN) -- A woman has died following a shooting Tuesday at the CNN Center complex, in what Atlanta police called a "domestic situation," according to a law enforcement source. The source spoke on condition that his name not be used.

The woman, who appeared to be pregnant, was shot and the gunman was then shot by a Cpt. Odell Adams, who joined Turner Security in 1996, according to a Turner spokesperson.

The man and the woman were taken to Grady Memorial Hospital. The man is in "extremely critical condition," the hospital said. (Watch bleeding victim on floor, suspect at gunpoint )

A witness saw a man dragging a woman by the hair one level above where the shooting occurred. The man told him to get out of the way. Williams went to get a guard, and then saw the man apparently take the woman downstairs. He heard gunshots less than a minute later.

[Name removed]

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[CottonBear]

8. I think he broadcasts out of NYC not Atlanta. n/t

[Radio_Lady]

7. Two people critically injured at CNN in Atlanta; near Omni Hotel.

Shooter and his victim, a woman...

Doesn't CNN have security and metal detectors?

[CottonBear]

10. Omni Hotel is a public space. CNN building has security, passes & IDs req'd

as per the CNN woman anchor just now. ID and pass needed to move from newsroom to newsroom and other places in the CNN Center.

Live feed link (CNN Pipeline): http://www.cnn.com/

edit: sp!

[Radio_Lady]

19. Thanks for explaining that, Cotton Bear. I've only been to Atlanta once... and never to that site.

[CottonBear]

22. You're welcome. RubyDubyinGeorgia just found out her co-worker was there

at the CNN Center/Omni Hotel food court area for lunch and was injured in the stampede to get away from the shooter.
His shoulder is dislocated and he's in hospital. :scared:

[RubyDuby in GA]

52. The ironic thing is that they have metal detectors sitting off to the side that were used

during the Olympics and other high profile events.

Bet they wish they'd left them out now.

[Radio_Lady]

56. So sad. We just came through security checks at Portland and Hawaii airports.

Every time I go through, I have to quell my agitation.

I'm a little old lady of 67 years and I had to be "wanded" and "patted down" twice.

It was my French hair barrette, made of plastic and base metal, that set off the alarm.

[lebkuchen]

9. Did someone forget that guns aren't allowed in the CNN building?

Looks like somebody broke the law.

[CottonBear]

11. The shooting took place in the adjacent and connected Omni Hotel. n/t

[lebkuchen]

55. I assume guns are allowed in the Omni, then.

Love the horse, btw.

[CottonBear]

60. I don't think guns are allowed there but I'm not sure what a gun license allows.

I live in GA but I've never owned a firearm. I don't know much about permits to carry a gun.

A crazy person like the shooter probably didn't even have a gun permit.

BTW, the horse is my filly's sire. He's an Oldenburg and Cotton looks just like him!

[Bozita]

12. CNN should hire Fox's vaunted Security Force

Bill O'Really recommends them highly.

[RubyDuby in GA]

14. Holy shit! One of my co-workers was there for lunch and got trampled in the stampede

trying to get out. Our boss has taken him to the hospital! His shoulder was dislocated. He was close enough to hear both shots!

[jollyreaper2112]

17. yuck

I hate it when people I know are in the news like that. On 9-11, one of my coworkers spent the entire morning trying to get ahold of her sister who worked a few buildings down from the WTC. They were able to watch the whole thing happen from the roof of their building. The tabloid anthrax building was about a quarter away from that same office, we'd drive past it on our way to lunch. A friend of mine was AT the WTC when the planes hit. He had to seek shelter in the lobby of one of the towers as the debris came down. He was then able to get away before the towers came down. Not fun.

[CottonBear]

18. Oh no! I hope he'll be OK. What a nightmare.

How close is your work to the CNN Center?

:hi:

[RubyDuby in GA]

21. 4 very short blocks

The helicopters are still circling!

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[RebelOne]

20. It is now reported by local station that one person is dead.

http://www.wsbtv.com/news/11511576/detail.html

[Radio_Lady]

23. Rebel One, appreciate the link. What I don't appreciate is DUers trashing

either of the CNN on-air personalities and almost "expecting" them to be dead.

Not funny at all.

[CottonBear]

26. I think it is horrible to wish injury or death on anyone much less joke about it. n/t

[Name removed]

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[RebelOne]

28. Well, please do not blame me. I didn't do any trashing. n/t

[Radio_Lady]

29. RebelOne, sorry for the confusion. I know you didn't do it.

However, the mods took swift care of it. Appreciate their competent monitoring of this developing situation.

In peace,

Radio Lady

[Redstone]

73. Oh, that's really fucking low. Glad I missed the threads.

Redstone

[Shakespeare]

24. ANOTHER "domestic situation"

:cry:

Men, can you please try to think beyond "Imo shoot the bitch" as you work through your issues post-breakup?

Yes, the DU Mens' Rights Brigade will take offense at the previous statement, but ya know what? I couldn't care less. When the numbers on male-on-female domestic violence go down, then I'll shut up.

[slackmaster]

30. Male victim of domestic violence by a female checking in here

We are monitoring this thread. It will be logged and filed in your permanent record.

:sarcasm:

:argh:

[Shakespeare]

31. You have my condolences.

But you're still very much in the minority.

[slackmaster]

34. Being in the minority does not trivialize my experience

Nor does the misbehavior of some men negate the fact that I've never perpetrated violence on anyone.

Let's treat individuals as individuals, and not play juvenile games with group condemnations.

[Shakespeare]

36. I didn't say it trivialized your experience.

But nor does your experience invalidate the statistical reality that this happens to women far, far more often.

[slackmaster]

40. That "statistical reality" is flame bait in this kind of context

And you damn well know it.

[Shakespeare]

41. The hell it is.

It's not flamebait, it's what we deal with on a daily fucking basis.

[slackmaster]

43. Baloney

Most women are not victimized daily.

Most men do not victimize women.

[Shakespeare]

45. Not baloney.

You know what the numbers are on domestic violence. The male v. female numbers are what's significant, not the sampling out of the entire population.

Now who's trivializing?

[Doctor_J]

62. Um, you said "Men, try to blahblah..." You swept the 99.99% of

us who wouldn't hurt anyone up with the rest of the trash. It WAS flamebait.

[Shakespeare]

64. Yes, I absolutely said that.

Too bad so many men around her are more offended by the occasional broadbrush statement than they are by the numbers on domestic violence their gender is racking up.

Sorry, I'm unmoved and unapologetic. I still maintain it isn't flamebait, but if y'all all wanna jump on me for it, I'm game. I'm sick of seeing these headlines every single goddamn day. I especially am tired of the ones where the women had begged for help, tried restraining orders, etc.--and nothing of consequence is done to help. Nothing is being done to address the cause of the problem.

[Doctor_J]

67. Did you say that I'm more offended by broad-brush statements than domestic violence?

:crazy:

Please stop digging.

[Shakespeare]

68. Well, let's see.

Start two threads in GD. In one of them post about how mean and nasty some of us women are RE issues like this, and how put-upon all the upstanding men of DU are, and in the other ask for ideas and solutions from DU men on what to do about domestic violence against women.

Count the responses on both threads and get back to me. I'm not new at this, and I'm REALLY not new to the topic here at DU.

And I'm about out of patience.

[slackmaster]

86. Ah, you are indulging in Mass Internet Mind Reading(tm)

Too bad so many men around her are more offended by the occasional broadbrush statement than they are by the numbers on domestic violence their gender is racking up.

On a scale of one to ten, how offended was I earlier when I made my initial emotional reaction to your post?

Or to put it another way, how many fingers am I holding up at the screen right now?

The problem is you are blaming our entire gender, when the problem is caused by individuals misbehaving. Most of us do not do those things, and unless we are aware of a specific problem there isn't jack shit we can do about those who do.

Citing stats on violence perpetrated on women by men has the same effect as citing statistics on crimes committed by people who are of a particular race, or how often people of a particular sexual orientation commit one kind of crime or another - The common thread is that most of us don't, we didn't choose the trait, and we who do not engage in the bad behavior are not responsible for those who do.

I dare you to go into a thread about an incident where an African-American has committed some horrible crime, post a statistic on the numbers of that crime "their race is racking up", and see what kind of reception you get.

[Shakespeare]

87. No, I'm pointing out that there apparently is a problem with your gender acting out violently....

...against my gender. Clear enough? Until the men on this site will sit up and acknowledge that, then I will refuse to be moved by your cries of "unfair, unfair!"

This is more than just stats--everything about domestic violence is tangled up in societal views and perceived gender roles. It's not at all a like comparison to black-on-white violence or white-on-black violence or even black-on-black violence, which is a much bigger problem (and there have been MANY threads posted here on that topic).

It's apples and oranges. And it still does nothing to address the issue of violence against women.

[slackmaster]

88. Nice attempt at a dodge

...Until the men on this site will sit up and acknowledge that, then I will refuse to be moved by your cries of "unfair, unfair!"

I didn't choose my gender, and I will not accept blame for bad behavior, over which I have no control whatsoever, perpetrated by other people who happen to be male. I'm not arguing against the numbers, just saying they don't have anything to do with me or with most males.

Your statements smack of misandry.

[Shakespeare]

89. Oh, I'm not dodging.

And I think I've made myself crystal clear. I can't ask on this forum WHY this happens without being accused of (gasp!) male-bashing.

Well, too fucking bad.

Until we can honestly and bluntly discuss WHY it happens, we will never take a single step towards solving the problem.

[Maddy McCall]

51. Ummm....I'm a domestic violence survivor. I dealt with it daily.

Every day. Nightmarish violence that I'm still dealing with a decade after leaving my abusive spouse.

It DOES happen every day to women who are in abusive relationships.

[Redstone]

74. Every day and every night, too, yes? And even when it DIDN'T happen for a while, you were

wondering when the next round would start, weren't you?

That stuff is a nightmare, and I'm glad you had the courage to get out. I know it's not easy to do that.

Redstone

[slackmaster]

76. Me too

Nightmarish violence that I'm still dealing with a decade after leaving my abusive spouse.

I couldn't have phrased it better myself.

[Radio_Lady]

46. Would you both please calm down. I have personally interviewed men who were abused by women.

There are many more resources on the Internet for this "closet issue" than there were in the 1970s and 1980s.

Just go to Google: "male victims of domentic abuse" and you'll see what I mean.

I am sorry for your experience and I do believe you.

In peace,

Radio Lady

http://www.batteredmen.com/battered.htm

[Shakespeare]

48. I really don't need you to mediate my arguments.

I'll reiterate: I have not trivialized the other poster's experience. But his attempt to shut me up also does not negate the numbers on domestic violence.

I will not shut up. I also do not need to "calm down," and it's incredibly condescending of you to suggest that.

[Name removed]

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[Shakespeare]

57. Then perhaps your should reconsider your comments.

Stepping in and telling someone to "calm down" is incredibly rude.

I also don't need to make any explanations to you about the topics I choose to debate on this site. Last time I checked, it was a discussion forum, and I don't "argue" nearly as much as a lot of other people do.

I don't put people on ignore, and if you choose to condescend to me again, I'll respond similarly.

I also find it curious (and rather stalker-ish) that you chose to address me by my actual first name. You'd have had to gone to a LITTLE bit of trouble to even know what my first name is, and the use of it between two people who frankly aren't on terribly familiar terms is....you got it!...a little condescending. Shocker.

[Maddy McCall]

58. Correct me if I'm wrong....I'm just observing here...

but you don't really have a dog in this fight, do you?

The conversation was between Slackmaster and Shakespeare, when you jumped in to somehow mediate, but instead ended up inciting more flames. How can you turn that around to Shakespeare calling you out??

An occasional interview does not an expert make.

[slackmaster]

50. OK, I am calm now

I get agitated whenever I think about what happened, and how "counselors" mishandled the situation. A lot of that had to do with the sexist double standard that gets applied whenever a specific situation doesn't fit the template based on the "statistics".

Thank you Radio Lady.

[Radio_Lady]

63. You're welcome, Slackmaster. I understand sexist double standard more than I can tell you about in

a single post.

In the early 1980s, I started a whole national organization for women who are non-custodial mothers either by choice, chance, or court decrees. We all had/have children under the age of 18 living with (usually) their natural fathers. I was hospitalized with a difficult and painful medical problem in 1980. I asked my ex-husband to take the kids until I felt better. They were ages 11 and 10, and he refused. But he did agree to take them until they were 18 years old and I paid him child support.

The organization was Mothers Without Custody, Inc., registered in Massachusetts. At its peak, Mothers Without Custody received 6,000 letters from women in this situation who all thought they were alone.

A book was written about us. I appeared on many national and local radio and TV shows and newspapers. Believe me, I had to take a bunch of flack mostly from middle class women.

Non-custodial women are now much more accepted, but occasionally I still run into someone who wanted to believe that we were "drunks, whores, or drug addicts" and we "gave away" our children.

[slackmaster]

65. Prejudice is ugly no matter who is indulging in it

I hope things are much better for you now.

[Radio_Lady]

69. You are correct. My personal situation has improved greatly. The kids

were partially raised by their biological father and stepmother until age 18. On the day of their graduations, they each returned from their small town in Vermont to our home in Massachusetts. I'm sure that seven or eight years living in a smalll ski village was less exciting than the call of the big city of Boston. While they lived in Vermont, I was one who drove 120 miles to see them and take them out to a hotel. They visited with us in the summertime and we continued to voluntarily pay child support for the entire period 1980 to 1988 under a Massachusetts court order.

My children's father died last December 1, 2006 from lung cancer. He was 70 years old and smoked cigarettes and pipes for decades. Now he is gone and my children had a real chance to get to know him and their stepmother during their teenaged years.

By the way, my husband and I raised the three kids from his first marriage. According to my calculations, I was a full-time mother of two and then all five children from 1968 until 1980. I think I served my time!

[Radio_Lady]

33. I'm sorry; I don't understand. Are you keeping track of WHAT? Logged and filed?

The woman was the victim; she has now died according to CNN.

The man was the shooter and is in critical condition. Assumption is that security shot him.

I could be wrong, but...

Are you sure of your facts?

[slackmaster]

35. What facts?

Are you sure of your facts?

My post consisted of some sarcasm and a personal revelation that was relevant in the context of the post I responded to.

ETA I wish to also note that one of the most common thread killers on DU works like this:

1. Member of group A does something bad to member of group B.

2. Different member of group B points out that group B is often victimized by members of group A.

3. Different member of group A points out that most members of group A do not engage in that type of bad behavior.

4. Pandemonium erupts, since about half of DU is a member of each respective group.

[Radio_Lady]

37. You can say whatever you want, but there was no way to figure this was sarcasm!!!

:sarcasm: emoticon might have helped!

[slackmaster]

42. Point taken

Sarcasm tag added for the humor-challenged.

(more :sarcasm: )

[Maddy McCall]

54. Lord. Who needs to calm down??

:eyes:

[Radio_Lady]

66. ..

See other posts, Maddy.

Good night and good luck.

[Hell Hath No Fury]

32. I've stopped worrying about...

what they think. :shrug:

The sad truth is that all of the women in my life -- and there have been a lot -- who have been raped, molested, beaten, and generally sexually/physically abused have been victims of men.

It's ugly, but there it is.

[Shakespeare]

39. Yup. Kinda hard to ignore those numbers.

So if a few men get their feelings hurt, well, too bad. I suggest they turn their anger towards those of their gender who do this shit, instead of turning it towards those of us who speak up about it.

The irony is especially rich, isn't it?

[slackmaster]

44. About half of DU consists of men

Most of us are not violent.

[Shakespeare]

47. Nowhere did I suggest that most of you are.

Textbook strawman.

[Maddy McCall]

59. .

:thumbsup:

[Radio_Lady]

61. ..

I am pulling my invisible dog out of this insulting hunt... back to the main topic: CNN shooting.

Good night and good luck.

[Maddy McCall]

71. Huh?

[CottonBear]

25. Turner security officials say it was one of their officers who shot a suspected gunman at the CNN

Center in Atlanta

http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/04/03/cnn.shooting/index.html

Story Highlights
• NEW: Both gunman, victim hospitalized in critical condition
• Atlanta police describe shooting as "domestic situation"
• CNN writer witnesses man shoot woman twice near newsroom
• Witness saw man dragging woman by the hair; man told to get out of the way

[HEyHEY]

38. It was just a matter of time.

Where I work, we sometimes have people come by and yell at the building.

[Radio_Lady]

49. Please PM me what building you work at... in Vancouver, BC..

I'll plan on NOT visiting there on our next trip!

Guess: Is it the government or the post office???

Insurance company???

Maple syrup revolutionary headquarters???

Um... I'm out of ideas.

[Redstone]

72. Guns, guns, we need more GUNS in this country!

Redstone

[slackmaster]

75. Do note that the situation was ended by a guy with a gun

:shrug:

[Redstone]

78. And STARTED by a guy with a gun. Your point being...?

Redstone

[slackmaster]

79. Guns: A power so great they can only be used for good or evil

And you can't make them all go away.

[Redstone]

80. Again, your point being...?

Redstone

[slackmaster]

81. I think I made my point

What's yours?

[Redstone]

83. If the first gun wasn't there, the second wouldn't have been needed. Pretty simple.

But I'm not about to argue with a Gun Apologist. I shouldn't have done so in the first place, because I should have known better.

Redstone

[slackmaster]

84. What would you have done to keep the first gun from being there?

Just curious. I don't expect you to provide anything resembling a realistic answer, so no pressure.

As I commented earlier there is a gaping hole in the restraining order system in most states - People who get restrained ought to be actively disarmed in some reasonable timeframe. But even that is moot in this case becase the RO was never executed.

[Redstone]

91. Banned handguns, that's what I would have done. They only exist for one reason: To kill people.

You can argue that premise until you're blue in the face, but you'll never convince me that it's not true.

Redstone

[slackmaster]

93. Sometimes people need to be killed

Thanks for your candor.

People have legitimate needs for self-defense against other people, and handguns are among the most effective weapons for that purpose.

They are also used for target shooting, hunting, and collecting of course.

[Township75]

85. False

So if he showed up with a knife, then the security guard would respond with a knife or a gun?

Whatever..I should know better than to argue with an Anti-gun Apologist.

[Redstone]

90. And, on the other hand, I should know better than to argue with A Gun Nut, shouldn't I?

Redstone

[Shakespeare]

77. UPDATE: It's the woman who died.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070403/ap_on_re_us/cnn_shooting

:-(

[slackmaster]

82. Bummer

It's usually the one who deserves it least.

[Redstone]

92. And isn't that the case, FAR too many times.

Redstone