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MGKrebs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-19-03 09:02 AM
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Poll shows Dean is No. 1 with Georgia Democrats
http://www.ajc.com/metro/content/metro/1203/19dempoll.html

(Zogby poll)
Howard Dean
DECEMBER: 18.8 percent
OCTOBER: 7.4 percent

Dick Gephardt
DECEMBER: 7.5 percent
OCTOBER: 11.5 percent

Someone else
DECEMBER: 6.8 percent
OCTOBER: 1.6 percent

Wesley Clark
DECEMBER: 6.5 percent
OCTOBER: 13.1 percent

Al Sharpton
DECEMBER: 5.6 percent
OCTOBER: 3.3 percent

Joe Lieberman
DECEMBER: 5.5 percent
OCTOBER: 9.0 percent

John Kerry
DECEMBER: 2.7 percent
OCTOBER: 4.9 percent

Carol Moseley Braun
DECEMBER 2.6 percent
OCTOBER 5.4 percent

John Edwards
DECEMBER 1.9 percent
OCTOBER 3.8 percent

Dennis Kucinich
DECEMBER: 0.2 percent
OCTOBER: 0.8 percent

Not sure
DECEMBER: 42.1 percent
OCTOBER 39.1 percent

Now the bad news:

"No matter who is the eventual nominee, the Democrats will face a tough general election campaign in Georgia, where President Bush was a big winner in 2000. A wider sample from the AJC poll, including Republicans and independents as well as Democrats, gave Bush a 59 percent approval rating, up from October's 56.1 percent. And with the capture of Saddam Hussein, 63.9 percent said they approved of the way Bush is handling the war in Iraq."


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onehandle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-19-03 10:05 AM
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1. Georgia is toast for us.
Rove and Ralph Reed have made my state their base of operations in the South.
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yellowcanine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-19-03 10:07 AM
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2. But Zell Miller said that Dean couldn't win
in the South. So shouldn't we listen to him instead of some stupid voters?
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Freddie Stubbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-19-03 10:09 AM
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3. Dean is the only candidate polling high enough to win any delegates
Only candidates who recieve at least 15% of the vote in a primary get any delegates from that state.
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yellowcanine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-19-03 10:12 AM
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4. John Edwards is behind Al Sharpton in Georgia?
So much for his appeal among Southern voters if this is reflective of voter opinion elsewhere in old Dixie.
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Freddie Stubbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-19-03 10:16 AM
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5. GA has a lot of African American voters
And Edwards is struggling to keep the lead in SC, which is right next door to his home state.
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deutsey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-19-03 10:56 AM
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6. Man, I need a vacation...
I thought the headline said:

Poll shows Dean is No. 1 with Gangsta Democrats

:hangover:
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jonnyblitz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-19-03 01:04 PM
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14. LOL
:hi:
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gttim Donating Member (64 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-19-03 12:02 PM
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7. Cool!
My bumpersticker is working! Why didn't the AJC give me some credit?
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JThrash Donating Member (15 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-19-03 12:07 PM
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8. Zogby shoots out the most unreliable pools ever
I would take these results with a grain of salt.
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MGKrebs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-19-03 12:17 PM
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9. I take all polls with a grain of salt.
But the TRENDS are what are worth keeping an eye on.
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CMT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-19-03 12:51 PM
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11. how come they were the most accurate in 2000?
only major pollster who detected the last minute swing to Gore.
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Chomskyite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-19-03 09:45 PM
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17. Zogby was the only pollster to call the 00 election for Gore
Check it and see.
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David__77 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-19-03 12:19 PM
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10. I'm waiting for the dropping out to begin.
I wonder if the Washington establishment will be forcing someone of the other out in order to endorse someone other than Dean. It's interesting, because amid all the rancor, it's clear that Dean's base will trump a divided opposition. Let them be divided, as far as I'm concerned...
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maxsolomon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-19-03 12:53 PM
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12. georgia HAS democrats?
doesn't look like it from over here on the west coast.
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AndyTiedye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-19-03 07:14 PM
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16. Do you think Saxby Chambliss really won in 2002?
>Georgia HAS democrats?

Sure, but what will the Diebold Republican Electing Machinez do with their votes?


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RebelOne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-20-03 05:48 AM
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22. Gerogia Democrat here.
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-19-03 01:01 PM
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13. Indeed this isn't saying much, IMHO!
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MGKrebs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-19-03 01:10 PM
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15. Well from my perspective,
as a Dean supporter and volunteer, it means we are doing soomething right. We are reaching the people, we are getting the message/name out there, and the message is connecting.

As you can see from the poll, even 2 months ago the support was far less, and what we were up against was that almost nobody had even heard of Dean.

Maybe the numbers aren't great overall (lot's of undecided), but RELATIVE to other candidates, we are apparently succeeding. I mean, how else does one measure such things?
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Chomskyite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-19-03 09:47 PM
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18. If you'd told me two years ago
. . . a social liberal but fiscally conservative former governor from Vermont would be leading all other Democrats in Georgia and in South Carolina, I'd have asked how much you'd been drinking and whether or not I could have some too.
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dolstein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-19-03 11:47 PM
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19. Headline: Poll Shows only 1 in 5 Georgia Dems back Dean
Gee, somehow this doesn't sound quite as impressive as your headline, but it's no less accurate.
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rman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-20-03 04:16 AM
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20. "Dean more then twice as popular as the next candidate"
is also quite accurate.
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RebelOne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-20-03 05:47 AM
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21. Yep, poll's right. I'm a Georgia Democrat.
And a lot of my friends here are Dean supporters.
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Scoopie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-24-03 12:00 AM
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24. Good God
Edited on Wed Dec-24-03 12:06 AM by Scoopie
And you call the South biased.
Here you people sit making fun of the South. I'm guessing THAT'S why Dean will lose the election.
I'm glad I strolled on over here.
No - Dean doesn't lead there, despite Zogby's "phenominal" poll of a whopping 277 people in Georgia.
Shit, I called that many people two weeks ago in two nights to invite them to a Wesley Clark rally.
La-ti-da.
And, it's the GENERAL ELECTION, not the primary. Of COURSE, Democrats in the primaries are gonna vote for an... OMG!!!... Democrat.
No. The point is that Dean isn't popular except among some elitist few. And those are the few that bother to register as Democrats in the South, considering that all our states have open primaries and it's not No. 1 on the hit list to register with a Party.
In any case, I should say that I guess Dean is the supposed leader of the registered Democrats, because I really don't know. I've only met one real-live Dean supporter in person down here and, surprisingly, he's originally from New Jersey. (I like him anyway. :) )
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Scoopie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-24-03 12:16 AM
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26. How come I don't get polled?
Seriously.
Is it because...
Oh. I know. It's because I vote a split ticket - LIKE MOST PEOPLE IN THE SOUTH.
Or maybe... just maybe.. yep... that's it! I voted for McCain in the primaries! And Gore in the General! YES! More than most of you guys, I actually have voted AGAINST BUSH twice already!
Gotta love them open primaries!
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Deesh Donating Member (176 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-03 11:53 PM
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23. Ralph Reed
My hope is that Ralph Reed will be eviscerated by a large sub-Saharan animal soon.
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-24-03 12:13 AM
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25. What Could Be More Meaningless Than A Poll Of 277 People?
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MGKrebs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-24-03 08:55 AM
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27. A: A poll of 12 people.
Actually, assuming the October poll was the same number of people, we can say that in October they found 19 Dean supporters, and in December they found 50 Dean supporters. I think that could indicate a TREND. Worth noting.
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