Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

EXCLUSIVE: Cheney Says British Troop Withdrawal Is Positive Sign

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » Latest Breaking News Donate to DU
 
underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-21-07 08:20 AM
Original message
EXCLUSIVE: Cheney Says British Troop Withdrawal Is Positive Sign
http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/story?id=2891713

Feb. 21, 2007 — British Prime Minister Tony Blair's announcement that British troops will begin withdrawing from Iraq would appear to be bad news for the Bush administration.

But in an exclusive interview with ABC News, Vice President Dick Cheney said the move was actually good news and a sign of progress in Iraq.

"Well, I look at it and see it is actually an affirmation that there are parts of Iraq where things are going pretty well," Cheney told ABC News' Jonathan Karl.

"In fact, I talked to a friend just the other day who had driven to Baghdad down to Basra, seven hours, found the situation dramatically improved from a year or so ago, sort of validated the British view they had made progress in southern Iraq and that they can therefore reduce their force levels," Cheney said.

Dick goes on to equate Murtha and Pelosi with alQaeda and attack McCain.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
hippiechick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-21-07 08:23 AM
Response to Original message
1. whuh?
A "positive sign" that "things are going pretty well", so the US needs to send MORE troops?

I'm so confused, I think I'm going to cry.
Or go into a fetal position and suck my thumb until Nov. '08


:(
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Dinger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-21-07 08:23 AM
Response to Original message
2. Maybe He Was Drunk
Maybe my ass.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Nickster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-21-07 08:23 AM
Response to Original message
3. But Deadeye, doesn't their troop withdrawal embolden the enemy? Won't they just move to Basra?? I'm
so confused, please Deadeye, tell me who's emboldening the terra-ists!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
acmavm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-21-07 08:23 AM
Response to Original message
4. I wish that guy would choke on his lies. He'd have been out of
our hair a LOOOOONNNNNNGGGGGGGG time ago.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
entanglement Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-21-07 08:24 AM
Response to Original message
5. Spin, spin, spin
and more spin
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
sendero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-21-07 08:25 AM
Response to Original message
6. god should have made republicans..
... with a mouth on both sides of their head. because they contradict themselves so often, a person really shouldn't have to say the opposite things on a daily basis out of the same mouth.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
peacetalksforall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-21-07 10:02 AM
Response to Reply #6
16. Thank you. I've visualized it and that's the way I'm going to
look at them. I'm also going to pass it on as the best laugh of the day - hope to make someone else's day. Will creit you.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Maggie_May Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-21-07 08:26 AM
Response to Original message
7. What the?
Cheney doen't have a clue. When was last time Cheney took a trip to Iraq? This is good news for us because the British troops are getting the hell out so should we!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
5X Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-21-07 08:28 AM
Response to Original message
8. I can just see the whole pnac group sitting around a conference table....
trying to come up with their spin on these stories.
They really don't care about truth, only the sound
bites they can plant in the msm.

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
UpInArms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-21-07 08:30 AM
Response to Original message
9. I talked to a friend just the other day who had driven to Baghdad down to Basra
:wtf:

this monster has the audacity to say this crap??????

yeah, right, evil being - we'll all just take a sunday drive in Iraq.

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Tin Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-21-07 11:15 AM
Response to Reply #9
28. What laughable fiction. Cheney's buddy, out for a Sunday drive through Iraq...
Edited on Wed Feb-21-07 11:16 AM by Tin Man
...in his M1A2 Abrams main battle tank.

His buddy also noted that along the trip, IED attacks were down 20% from a year ago - only 57 this trip!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-21-07 11:46 AM
Response to Reply #9
32. Okay, dick. WHO'S this "friend" you refer to? Does he/she actually exist?
Edited on Wed Feb-21-07 11:49 AM by calimary
Or did you make this up, too, along with your "last throes" crap, and your scrambling for an excuse to give to the media as to why you were drunk and shooting that geezer in the face awhile back? Got a name for this person? Can he or she be produced for the media to corroborate your story (not that any of our cracker-jack media people will make any attempt to check this out to confirm it). Your "truth-telling" is EXTREMELY questionable.

And, indeed, if it's so safe and stable over there, WHY DON'T YOU GO OVER THERE AND ENJOY ONE OF THOSE NICE, LEISURELY DRIVES THROUGH THE COUNTRYSIDE??? Shouldn't it be safe enough, now, for YOU to go over there for a look-see? Huh? Or do you have "other priorities" in this case, too?

If this guy told me the sun rose in the east every morning and that I myself was a life-long liberal Democrat, I'd STILL go get myself a second opinion.

Oh yeah, and one more thing, dickie-poo. If it's such a nice, stable situation over there, STARTING from Baghdad, shouldn't that mean WE can start pulling OUR troops out, too? Doesn't that mean another "Mission Accomplished"????
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-21-07 11:59 AM
Response to Reply #9
33. That was the most laughable part
but ABC carried it (gee now THERE'S a surprise)
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
ginnyinWI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-21-07 04:46 PM
Response to Reply #33
37. it's fine if they carry it--should they censor it?
When I hear Cheney say anything, that's when I know that the opposite is true!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Eurobabe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-21-07 08:31 AM
Response to Original message
10. Hey Cheney, you are do deluded you don't know which way is up
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
RaRa Donating Member (705 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-21-07 08:32 AM
Response to Original message
11. Ouch!
My neck hurts from the velocity of that spin!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
EV_Ares Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-21-07 08:32 AM
Response to Original message
12. Goes along when he said the increase in attacks on our troops
proved we were winning the war and they were in desperation straits.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
pinniped Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-21-07 08:33 AM
Response to Original message
13. Wow, the 'surge' worked faster than I thought.
.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
C_U_L8R Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-21-07 08:34 AM
Response to Original message
14. Was this a skit on that lame Faux Comedy show ?
Seems Cheney's ripping off the Tommy "that's the ticket" Flanagan bit.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
strizi64 Donating Member (192 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-21-07 08:34 AM
Response to Original message
15. Ok Dick, I'm fine with that
Edited on Wed Feb-21-07 08:35 AM by strizi64
If that's a positive sign, then we should begin with our troop withdrawal asap!

One question: are you with me Dick ;) ?

edit: typo
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Doondoo Donating Member (843 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-21-07 10:04 AM
Original message
edit
Edited on Wed Feb-21-07 10:05 AM by Doondoo
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Doondoo Donating Member (843 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-21-07 10:04 AM
Response to Original message
17. THEN WHY THE HELL DO WE NEED A SURGE???!!!!!
:eyes:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-21-07 11:02 AM
Response to Reply #17
27. BECAUSE!!...uh because this is in Basra and ...uh...
ONe of the points that is going to be completely missed here is that one of the main reasons the south of Iraq has been stable has been due to the tactics the Brits used with the locals. They have a vast experience with this sort of work and it shows.

"Fiasco" spells how horrific and how completely unprepared US forces were for even a short occupation-couldn't have training on that because might get the idea that we were going to be there a while.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Doondoo Donating Member (843 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-21-07 10:04 AM
Response to Original message
18. edit
Edited on Wed Feb-21-07 10:05 AM by Doondoo
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Heidi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-21-07 10:07 AM
Response to Original message
19. Kick.
:kick:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
sabra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-21-07 10:07 AM
Response to Original message
20. (ABC Interview) Cheney Says British Troop Withdrawal Is Positive Sign

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/story?id=2891738

EXCLUSIVE: Cheney Says British Troop Withdrawal Is Positive Sign

TOKYO, Feb. 21, 2007 — British Prime Minister Tony Blair's announcement that British troops will begin withdrawing from Iraq would appear to be bad news for the Bush administration.

...

"Well, I look at it and see it is actually an affirmation that there are parts of Iraq where things are going pretty well," Cheney told ABC News' Jonathan Karl.

"In fact, I talked to a friend just the other day who had driven to Baghdad down to Basra, seven hours, found the situation dramatically improved from a year or so ago, sort of validated the British view they had made progress in southern Iraq and that they can therefore reduce their force levels," Cheney said.

...

Cheney said Pelosi and other Democrats were pushing a policy in Iraq that would "validate the al Qaeda strategy."

"I think if we were to do what Speaker Pelosi and Congressman Murtha are suggesting, all we'll do is validate the al Qaeda strategy," Cheney told ABC News.

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
hadrons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-21-07 10:07 AM
Response to Reply #20
21. man, this clown can put perfume on shit and try to sell it to Wal-Mart
with no shame ... sad thing is that 30% of the population would buy it
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
saigon68 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-21-07 10:07 AM
Response to Reply #21
22. He's just evil
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Dhalgren Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-21-07 10:07 AM
Response to Reply #20
23. Isn't this the same kind of crap he was spewing about the increase
in violent attacks in Iraq shows that the insurgents are losing? "Last throes" and all that? Also, when was the last attack on British soldiers in southern Iraq? Oh, try, yesterday! British soldiers have been killed and wounded this month, so, yeah, the Brits are pulling out because its soooo peaceful, man, don't cha know?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Fire Walk With Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-21-07 10:20 AM
Response to Original message
24. "It's just a flesh wound!" -The Black Knight, "Monty Python and the Holy Grail
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-21-07 10:50 AM
Response to Original message
25. If that's the case dickhead chaney, then start pulling out our troops...
what a colossal fuck he is.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
sakabatou Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-21-07 10:50 AM
Response to Original message
26. Flip-flop
Flip-flop
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
HuffleClaw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-21-07 11:36 AM
Response to Original message
29. wow, that is some hilarious SPIN
really.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
bobthedrummer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-21-07 11:43 AM
Response to Original message
30. ABC exclusive huh, means exclusive of any truth eom
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
deadparrot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-21-07 11:46 AM
Response to Original message
31. Yeah, it's always good news when your lapdog deserts you.
:woohoo:

At least SOME soldiers are going home, even if they're not OUR soldiers.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
roamer65 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-21-07 12:04 PM
Response to Original message
34. Spin all you want, Mr. Roboto.
Edited on Wed Feb-21-07 12:05 PM by roamer65
The Brits see the handwriting on the wall...FAILURE. At least thru their past colonization failures, they know when to get out.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
tabasco Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-21-07 01:01 PM
Response to Original message
35. Only the Coriolis Effect can slow that spin down !!!
Wow! That is just so illogical at a time when Cheney and Bush are screaming for more U.S. troops !

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-21-07 01:15 PM
Response to Original message
36. And The Onion hits ANOTHER one out of the park!
I was skeptical about their decision to syndicate their stories to other publications, but I have to admit it's really paid off--their humor is as fresh and sharp as ever!

:rofl:
rocknation
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
tex-wyo-dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-21-07 04:53 PM
Response to Original message
38. Of course it has NOTHING to do with Blair's Labour party being in deep doo-doo in the polls...
largely due to the Iraq occupation being even less popular in Britain than it is here. The pullout can't be construed in any other way than it's an attempt by Blair to offer an olive branch to the people of the UK in an attempt to save his party majority. Of course, Dick's talking points from the AEI or Heritage Foundation say otherwise...what a load of BS!

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-21-07 10:18 PM
Response to Reply #38
48. Or maybe he knows that Bush is going into Iran
and wants to at least appear that he got his lads out of the way.

:headbang:
rocknation
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Scriptor Ignotus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-21-07 04:57 PM
Response to Original message
39. wow
impressive level of BS today Cheney, even for you.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
tex-wyo-dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-21-07 05:02 PM
Response to Original message
40. This is almost as good as "the insurgency is in it's last throws"...n/t
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
BlueStater Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-21-07 05:05 PM
Response to Original message
41. So we here in America are "emboldening the enemy" when we call for a pull-out
Edited on Wed Feb-21-07 05:09 PM by BlueStater
But it's ok when the Brits actually do it?

Go back to hiding, Dick, and shut up.

EDIT: And upon scanning the article, I see he attacks Murtha and Pelosi for calling for the very thing he is praising Blair for doing now. Just how stupid does he think people are, anyway?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Laurab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-21-07 05:17 PM
Response to Original message
42. I think he should take a drive from Baghdad to Basra
since it's so safe and all....
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
FreeStateDemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-21-07 05:18 PM
Response to Original message
43. MSNBC: Cheney says Americans don't want Iraq retreat
Different headline from the alternate universe of Big Dick.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/17257494/
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
zara Donating Member (470 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-21-07 05:19 PM
Response to Original message
44. He's Right-US should do the same--even better sign!
Anyone disagree?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Supersedeas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-21-07 05:30 PM
Response to Original message
45. up is down, black is white, and 2+2=5--no back to the Ten Minutes of Hate
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
TexasLawyer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-21-07 05:52 PM
Response to Original message
46. The ransacking of the British base last year
when the Brits pulled out. Does anyone remember this news item, now down the memory hole?

http://inbrief.threatswatch.org/2006/08/new-british-commander-updates/

A significant event this past week was the withdrawal of British forces from a base near Amara, the capital of the Maysan Province. The base, a former Baathist regime military installation, was called Camp Abu Naji, and at least some of the troops were to redeploy along the Iraq-Iran border in the area in order to stop arms smuggling from Iran to Shi’a militias. Unfortunately, the withdrawal did not go smoothly. The Karbala News Agency reported that on August 23, the day before the planned withdrawal, there was an exchange of fire in the Old Hussein neighborhood in Amara. The KNA tends to have a strong anti-Western bias, and gave no indication of an underlying cause other than to say that one individual was killed and locals reacted violently. The British military has not released a press report on the incident.

Then, following the British redeployment away from the Amara area, the abandoned base was ransacked by looters (Washington Post). The incident does not reflect well on local security, although concern for the security of the base after withdrawal does not seem to have been great. British officials responded to questions by saying that the base was now the Iraqis’ responsibility, and the Post notes that local Iraqi forces called the governor to get permission to return fire on armed looters, and apparently did not get it until the looting was almost done. The Post article also noted that there had been mortor shelling from militia elements loyal to Muqtada al-Sadr, so the fight in Amara may have been related.

<snip>


Maysan Province

What do you want to bet a similar fate awaits future abandoned camps and bases, British and otherwise? It would be funny if it was not so tragic.

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-21-07 06:36 PM
Response to Original message
47. Wait, I thought increased violence was a positive sign
It showed the terrorists were getting desperate.

And doesn't "showing weakness by giving up" embolden the terrorists? I thought that was bad.

I have much to learn from these Republicans.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
followthemoney Donating Member (745 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-21-07 11:47 PM
Response to Original message
49. V-DAY! V-DAY! BRITS DECLARE VICTORY AND GO HOME.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
pinniped Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-22-07 02:12 AM
Response to Original message
50. If this is good news and the area is stabilized, move the fucking troops to another part...
of Iraq. I'm sure they can find some "hotspots" for these troops to work their magic.

I look at my CC statements and think it's bad news. I'm an optimist like the robot vcreep. It is good news!:party::party:

Feb. 21, 2007 — British Prime Minister Tony Blair's announcement that British troops will begin withdrawing from Iraq would appear to be bad news for the Bush administration.

But in an exclusive interview with ABC News, Vice President Dick Cheney said the move was actually good news and a sign of progress in Iraq.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view 
this author's profile Click to add 
this author to your buddy list Click to add 
this author to your Ignore list Mon Apr 29th 2024, 05:36 PM
Response to Original message
Advertisements [?]
 Top

Home » Discuss » Latest Breaking News Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC