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Freddie Stubbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-07-07 09:56 PM
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Man wins suit against Palestinian groups
BY CURT ANDERSON
Associated Press
MIAMI - A Jewish man injured in a February 2002 terrorist attack could get up to $48 million after a federal jury awarded damages Wednesday in his lawsuit claiming the attack was backed by the Palestinian Authority and Palestine Liberation Organization.

After the Palestinian defendants defaulted by not defending themselves, a federal jury heard evidence this week in the case and returned a verdict of $16 million.

But under a law permitting U.S. citizens to sue organizations involved in overseas terrorism, that amount will likely be tripled to $48 million. U.S. Magistrate Judge William C. Turnoff asked attorneys in the case to file a proposed judgment order taking the higher amount into account.

The man who filed the lawsuit, Moshe Saperstein, has dual U.S. and Israeli citizenship. He claimed that the Palestinian Authority, which governs the Gaza Strip and parts of the West Bank, and the PLO were complicit in the attack against him.

more: http://www.miami.com/mld/miamiherald/16646909.htm

Mods: I posted this in LBN rather than the I/P Forum because this was a case in the American federal courts.
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HuffleClaw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-07-07 10:05 PM
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1. oh what complete crap
really.
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Jim Sagle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-07-07 10:10 PM
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3. Crushing retort. Not.
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barb162 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-07-07 10:30 PM
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4. Al Aksa is one of the many terrorist groups of the Fatah party
so it is a perfectly valid case. The Palestinian government chooses to do nothing to rein in its terrorists. I hope this man collects every red cent. REALLY.
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NaturalHigh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-08-07 01:06 AM
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7. Well stated.
I agree completely.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-08-07 04:57 AM
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Violet_Crumble Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-08-07 07:02 AM
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12. Why do you hope he collects every cent?
Edited on Thu Feb-08-07 07:04 AM by Violet_Crumble
How is a wounded hand worth many millions of dollars? Pretty much confirms any suspicion that this is nothing more than a political stunt to drag the I/P conflict into the US courts...

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NaturalHigh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-08-07 01:07 AM
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8. How so?
Is this man not entitled to seek compensation?
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Freddie Stubbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-08-07 09:55 AM
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13. Apperently a jury thought otherwise
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woo me with science Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-08-07 10:04 AM
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14. I'm sure you have first-hand knowledge of the case.
I'd hate to think this eloquent response was based on bias.
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-07-07 10:09 PM
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2. But the Bush regime supports Fatah, and opposes Hamas
Could someone tell me who is the terrorist dujour?

Like Orwell said, we have always been at war with (fill-in the blank).
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barb162 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-07-07 10:32 PM
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5. wouldn't call it support as much as recognition it's the lesser of two evils
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azurnoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-07-07 10:35 PM
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6. So the US and Israel come up with yet another way
Edited on Wed Feb-07-07 10:38 PM by azurnoir
to starve out the Palestinians, why did the "defendants" default were they in custody or not allowed into the country, but "justus" was served.
Will victims of 9/11 be allowed to sue the Saudi's or OBL's family, you know the ones Bush helped sneak out of the country, I hear they're loaded.
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cigsandcoffee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-08-07 01:30 AM
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9. Careful - you'll get nailed with that in a debate
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azurnoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-08-07 02:41 AM
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10. Ok skip the part about them leaving the country
Edited on Thu Feb-08-07 02:44 AM by azurnoir
although they did leave quietly at some point. The thought is still there can 9/11 victims sue the prpetrators or their families?
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cigsandcoffee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-09-07 02:33 PM
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17. Sure. Why couldn't they? n/t
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junior college Donating Member (290 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-08-07 10:08 AM
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15. The guy was collateral damage.
U.S. forces inflict collateral damage all the time in Iraq and Israel does it in Palestine. Perhaps the he should have taken his vacation somewhere else besides Israel.
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Englander Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-08-07 10:46 AM
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16. More on Moshe Saperstein;
"AMONG THE SETTLERS
Will they destroy Israel?
by JEFFREY GOLDBERG
Issue of 2004-05-31
Posted 2004-05-24

>snip

One day a few months ago, Moshe Saperstein, who lives in Neveh Dekalim, the biggest Jewish settlement in Gaza, picked me up at the junction that marks the border between Gaza and Israel. The junction, called Kissufim, is an armored camp. Three dozen tanks and bulldozers were lined up in order to pass through the gates. The only civilians here are the settlers of the Gush Katif bloc, a string of settlements—Neveh Dekalim among them—along the beaches of southern Gaza, between the Palestinian city of Khan Younis and the Mediterranean.

Saperstein was born on the Lower East Side of Manhattan, and came to Israel thirty-six years ago with his wife, Rachel, who is originally from Brooklyn. As a soldier in the 1973 Yom Kippur War, he lost part of an arm and part of his vision in an Egyptian rocket attack. He is a heavyset man who smokes bad cigars and has perhaps the most profane mouth in Orthodox Judaism.

The road from the border to the settlement is under Israeli control—concrete pillboxes are planted intermittently along the way—but Palestinians regularly fire on the settlers’ cars. Two years ago, Saperstein was ambushed near Kissufim; Palestinian gunfire tore off two fingers of his remaining hand. He had the presence of mind to push down on the accelerator, and struck a Palestinian gunman.

As we drove, Saperstein pointed to the spot on the road where the attack had taken place. “Here’s where I tried to run over the peace-loving Muslim,” he said. Sometimes, he told me, he gets the feeling that “Ahmed is trying to kill me.” Saperstein refers to Arabs generically as “Ahmed.”

Just before we reached the fortified entrance to the Gush Katif bloc, we passed the ramshackle Bedouin village of Muwassi. “They like to live like pigs in shit,” Saperstein said. I disagreed, vehemently, and he said, “I’m sorry, that’s politically incorrect. ‘They have a different cultural aesthetic.’ Is that what I’m supposed to say?”

http://www.newyorker.com/fact/content/articles/040531fa_fact2_a
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manic expression Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-09-07 02:49 PM
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19. Not surprising
the basic mentality of a Zionist: Bigoted and ignorant.
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manic expression Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-09-07 02:47 PM
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18. This is ridiculous
when Palestinian civilians are murdered, who blinks an eye? NO ONE. Hypocrisy at its purest, most dense form. I could cut it with a knife.

I could go on, but this is pathetic in many ways.
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