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BleedingHeartPatriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-05-07 08:14 AM
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Ted Haggard To Leave Colorado Springs (after 3 weeks of "intensive" counseling)
Evangelist Undergoes 3 Weeks Counseling For Longtime Problem

POSTED: 3:45 am MST February 5, 2007

COLORADO SPRINGS, Colo. -- Evangelist Ted Haggard, who resigned as president of the National Association of Evangelicals last year after allegations of sexual misconduct, said he is leaving Colorado Springs.

Haggard founded the 14,000-member New Life Church here but was forced out as pastor after a former male prostitute alleged Haggard paid him for sex and sometimes used methamphetamine when they were together. Haggard, who is married, has publicly admitted to "sexual immorality."

Denver escort Mike Jones said last November that he and Haggard had a three-year tryst and that he watched Haggard take methamphetamine.

>snip

Haggard said in an e-mail Sunday to church members that he and his wife, Gayle, plan to pursue master's degrees in psychology. The e-mail said the family hasn't decided where to move but that they have been offered spots in Missouri and Iowa.

"Jesus is starting to put me back together. I have spent so much time in repentance, brokenness, hurt and sorrow for the things I've done and the negative impact my actions have had on others. That sadness continues as my family and I, along with so many others, go through the painful consequences of my actions. Jesus and his followers, though, have saved my life," he wrote in the e-mail.


http://www.thedenverchannel.com/news/10929412/detail.html

full text of email...http://www.gazette.com/display.php?id=1329628&secid=1

MKJ



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Glorfindel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-05-07 08:21 AM
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1. Awww...poor fellow
One wonders how long it will be until he's begging for money to combat those evil faggots who ruined his life and his ministry?
:nopity:
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joanmj Donating Member (186 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-05-07 10:46 AM
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28. Call them....
And let them know how you feel--New Life Church...719-594-6602....email....questions@newlifechurch.org OR Focus on the Family--1-800-A-Family...719-531-5181. I just did!:bounce:
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physioex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-05-07 01:39 PM
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32. Belated Welcome....
What did you say on the phone?
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MUAD_DIB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-05-07 02:54 PM
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37. He can always try for a three-way ministry with Jimmy Swaggart and Tammy-Fae baker.

The "We have sinned so give us money for Jeebus" con game will continue. There's a born-again sucker born every minute.
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Wise Doubter Donating Member (458 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-05-07 08:25 AM
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2. Bwaaaa haaa haaaa haaaa
kin folk said -Ted move away from here. Californy is the place you wanna be. So he loaded up his truck and moved to `ol Holly..... Wood that is.



he he he- Did somebody say wood ?!

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-05-07 08:25 AM
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3. Ah STFU Ted
If Mike Jones hadn't exposed your ass, you'd be fooling the flock right now. Thanks for waking up some of your sheeple before that crucial election. Now fugg off and disappear.
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Cassandra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-05-07 08:26 AM
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4. Jesus was so helpful the first time...
that he's sure to do the trick this time. :eyes:
Why does this fool blame his faith for his own unwillingness to follow his own rules while condemning others?
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Ezlivin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-05-07 08:27 AM
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5. Missouri and Iowa have no gay people - he'll be safe there
Well, at least that's what the local pastors say to him.

20 years of hard-driving homosexual love and it only took three weeks to clean him up.

And I'm sure that this "fix" will take and he'll never backslide.

:eyes:
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donheld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-05-07 08:32 AM
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7. Maybe they just have bigger closets?
:shrug:
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DU9598 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-05-07 10:15 AM
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25. Iowa does have a great gay population ...
but does anyone find it funny that Iowa and Missouri are the meth capitals of the US? At least Iowa's leadership has passed some new legislation that is severly cutting down on the meth production here.

I hope Ted is coming out here just to get his fix.
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Blue Gardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-05-07 05:40 PM
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40. Maybe he's been invited to NW Iowa
The reddest part of the state.
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PDittie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-05-07 08:30 AM
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6. Hey I'm certain that "counseling session"
was the most horrific three weeks ANYONE could ever spend. Even Jesus must be exhausted after helping Ted get through it.

(Not that I feel sorry for either one of them.)
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Joe Bacon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-05-07 08:36 AM
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8. She's still with him?
Kinky.

:evilgrin:
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Jacobin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-05-07 08:40 AM
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9. I guess they Prayed The Gay Away
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-05-07 07:05 PM
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43. When Jesus said "Eat this, this is my body!" old Ted was healed
of his love of evil dick!
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ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-05-07 08:43 AM
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10. WARNING to my friends in south beach and key west....kick him out
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CornField Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-05-07 09:05 AM
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11. NOT IOWA!!!
That's really the last thing I want to see... more crazies in Iowa. One of the reasons we moved here was to break from the fundamentalists in the South.
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joanmj Donating Member (186 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-05-07 09:53 AM
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17. I live here!
I live in Colorado Springs! This news makes my year--almost--now just to get Focus on the Family out! And James Dobson! And Ted don't move to IOWA....that is my home state! :toast:
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joanmj Donating Member (186 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-05-07 09:59 AM
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21. AND
:bounce:
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PDittie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-05-07 10:12 AM
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24. Wilkommen to der DU, joanmj
Prepare to be assimilated. :hi:
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Blue Gardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-05-07 05:42 PM
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41. Welcome to DU!
Stop by and visit the Iowa forum sometime! :hi:
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BleedingHeartPatriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-05-07 08:43 PM
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45. Welcome joanmj. From nearby Denver :-)
You have some great people out there, it sucks that FOF co-opted that location, conveniently across from the AFA, in your beautiful city.

Glad you're here. :toast: MKJ
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DU9598 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-05-07 10:18 AM
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26. Sioux County
He will probably end up in the people's republic of Sioux County. Bush got about 90% of the vote in the county. Northwestern College is a perfect little community for him and his family to live their perfect little lives. VanderPlatts would likely welcome him with open arms ... ;)
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knitter4democracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-05-07 09:35 AM
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12. That means he's going to a Christian "university."
Which ones are there? Hmmmm. I smell party! ;)
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Dover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-05-07 09:41 AM
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13. Repent Ted!.....Back to Jesus Camp for you.
And I guess the little trysts with Dubya every weekend will have to be postponed until after the impeachment.
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quiet.american Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-05-07 09:41 AM
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14. Pursuing "masters in psychology" ?!
He's gotta be kidding.
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Dover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-05-07 09:45 AM
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...well I guess he figures he oughta get college credit for all the time/$ spent with the shrink.n/t
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Dover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-05-07 09:45 AM
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16. "Since we are taking our classes on-line, we can live anywhere that’s affordable."
Edited on Mon Feb-05-07 09:54 AM by Dover
LOL!!!!! One of those 'online' certificates of authenticity! Have certificate, will travel.
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Ilsa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-05-07 10:55 AM
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29. Wow. Maybe he'll realize it's okay to be gay, then.
But I bet he drops out instead of having to deal with all those DSM-IV ideas.
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TankLV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-05-07 03:57 PM
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39. Doesn't need to go far to research his thesis paper on abnormal psychology...
his case study can be himself...

with a side bar on spousal denial, lies and cheating...
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momster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-06-07 06:42 AM
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51. God Help His Patients!
Ah...he'll probably just write a bunch of bs books about how to overcome temptation and all the heaven-bound brigades will eat them up...until he slips and falls again.
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sharp_stick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-05-07 09:43 AM
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15. He's off to Provincetown MA
to continue his healing. Haggard and the rest of his fundy asshats need to FOAD.
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brentspeak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-05-07 09:55 AM
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18. Makes no sense to kick a man when he's down
This guy is a total disgrace in his sector of the world; why insist on kicking him?
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mac56 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-05-07 09:59 AM
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19. Now it's his turn to be a disgrace in the REST OF THE WORLD.
Hypocrites deserve recognition.
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Hobarticus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-05-07 10:05 AM
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23. Because his job was kicking others...
Make no mistake, he's not a nice man.
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Love Bug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-05-07 09:59 AM
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20. Y'know, I actually feel some compassion for him
I don't excuse how he's lied to his flock and the damage he's done, but how sad is it that he's living an inauthentic life? Three weeks of intensentive brainwashing just to continue to live a lie. I think that's pretty sad, myself.
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physioex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-05-07 01:47 PM
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35. I agree.....
And there are a lots more like him. They just don't have the same high profile.
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nolabels Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-05-07 08:52 PM
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46. Well think of it, he can CONtinue to live the lie and eat his cake........
Like the dude is living / walking lie. So he has to change his fraud shtick a little to get by, what is such a big deal for him anyway :shrug:
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all.of.me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-05-07 10:03 AM
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22. How sad.
This man is still fighting his sexuality. He still thinks he is bad. No amount of counseling will help him until he decides to just live his authentic life. So he will beat himself up forever. That is so sad.
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PaDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-05-07 09:23 PM
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47. Well, there is that small problem of a wife and children........
I think he has to do right by them at this point.
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all.of.me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-05-07 09:30 PM
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48. But if you're gay, you're gay.
Getting out of that fake marriage would be doing right by them, in my eyes. Why live a lie? That's not healthy.
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BigDDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-05-07 10:39 AM
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27. P-Town or bust!
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KamaAina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-05-07 03:55 PM
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38. No way! Waikiki!
Fairly happening gay scene, plus it's a lot easier to score meth out here! :P
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KansDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-05-07 10:59 AM
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30. Why isn't this SOB in jail?
He solicited a prostitute and wanted to by meth. If I had done these I'd been in jail! So why isn't he? Oh, yeah, the "Party of Moral Responsibility" is neither!
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dysfunctional press Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-05-07 01:46 PM
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34. you'd only be in jail if police caught you in the act of doing it.
Edited on Mon Feb-05-07 01:47 PM by QuestionAll
nt
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physioex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-05-07 01:48 PM
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36. Right....
Just like El Drugbo you get the poor person to clean your bathroom and buy your drugs.
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confludemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-05-07 11:42 AM
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31. Anyone see the HBO special on him&others? Liked the way Pelosi shot his video
the camera was always right up in his face, making him look quite queer, pun intended
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physioex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-05-07 01:43 PM
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33. "Friends of God"......
Yea I saw the documentary. Everyone here at DU should see it as well. Did you notice how they brainwashed the kids into thinking dinosaurs are not real and creationism is the only way.......
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-05-07 07:03 PM
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42. Teddy is FULL OF SHIT....He should be in JAIL...he is an evil evil POS
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olddad56 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-05-07 08:32 PM
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44. Stephanie Miller calls Ted the "Crystal Methodist", (cute)
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Jonathan50 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-05-07 11:36 PM
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49. Y'all really should be thanking father Ted.
I bet he helped the Dems pick up a couple of house seats.

And who knows, maybe even helped Webb win Virginia.
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Neshanic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-06-07 12:23 AM
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50. "Hunny, I best stop again at that reststop up there, you stay in the truck."
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maxrandb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-06-07 12:36 PM
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52. Haggard Now "Completely Heterosexual" (It's a Miracle)
http://www.foxnews.com/wires/2007Feb06/0,4670,HaggardSexAllegations,00.html

DENVER — One of four ministers who oversaw three weeks of intensive counseling for the Rev. Ted Haggard said the disgraced minister emerged convinced that he is "completely heterosexual."

Haggard also said his sexual contact with men was limited to the former male prostitute who came forward with sexual allegations, the Rev. Tim Ralph of Larkspur told The Denver Post for a story in Tuesday's edition.

"He is completely heterosexual," Ralph said. "That is something he discovered. It was the acting-out situations where things took place. It wasn't a constant thing."

Ralph said the board spoke with people close to Haggard while investigating his claim that his only extramarital sexual contact happened with Mike Jones. The board found no evidence to the contrary.

"If we're going to be proved wrong, somebody else is going to come forward, and that usually happens really quickly," he said. "We're into this thing over 90 days and it hasn't happened."

-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Now he can go back to slamming gays and passing the collection plate.
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Lerkfish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-06-07 12:36 PM
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53. ya know, you can't even write fiction this unbelievable.
ROFTL
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caseycoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-06-07 12:36 PM
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57. How true!
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maxrandb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-06-07 12:36 PM
Response to Reply #53
58. I thought it was from the Onion
then I saw that it was from Faux News. Sometimes Faux and the Onion are hard to tell apart.
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YOY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-06-07 12:36 PM
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54. Jesus has smote whole his desire to smoke pole!
So now he tweaks and has sex with female prostitutes!

PRAISE JEBUS!!!

(sorry in advance for offending anyone in my creation of a bad play on words!)
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AngryAmish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-06-07 12:36 PM
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55. Well, thank god he clear that thing cleared up
I am sure he is never going to have another thought about a man. In a speedo.
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achtung_circus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-06-07 09:19 PM
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80. With oiled bulging biceps and pecs. nt
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AngryAmish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-06-07 10:23 PM
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81. And fantastic shoes
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Bjornsdotter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-06-07 12:36 PM
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56. I just love

....fantasy stories. Will there be a sequel?

Cheers
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-06-07 12:36 PM
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59. Bet on it
After all, what is the remission rate and how soon? These cures are temporary, at best.

It seems Jebus aint real good at correcting his dad's mistakes.
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shanti Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-06-07 12:36 PM
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60. heh
:spray:
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William Bloode Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-06-07 12:36 PM
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61. I fell kinda sorry for Haggard.
Trapped in the misery of self loathing, hating yourself for what and who your truely are.
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Justitia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-06-07 12:36 PM
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65. I do too. He's been shamed into thinking something is wrong with him. More trouble to come, surely
Now, I have no sympathy for him in his desire to subject other gay men into his f'ed up thinking in regards to politics and public policy. None whatsoever, and he got what was coming to him by being uncovered as a hypocrite.

I hate people who force their repressions on others.

When will we ever let people be themselves???

His kids will pay the price, unfortunately. This screwed up man is their father, and they live in a fishbowl.
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tanyev Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-06-07 12:36 PM
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62. Praise the Virgin Mary in a freezer! Hallelujah!
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maxrandb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-06-07 12:36 PM
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66. Kind of looks like a phalic symbol
Better not let Ted see it.

Perhaps they could send some Republican Congressman and Rush Limbaugh to the same "re-education" camp.
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tanyev Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-06-07 12:36 PM
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70. Oh, dear. No telling what kind of a relapse he would have if he saw a phallic popsicle.
:spank:
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no_hypocrisy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-06-07 12:36 PM
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63. Praise Jesus! Another Miracle!!! n/t
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OneBlueSky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-06-07 12:36 PM
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64. Hallelujah! . . . Praise Jebus!! . . . n/t
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-06-07 12:36 PM
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67. Wow, it IS a miracle! Does Hallmark have a card for this occasion? nt
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CountAllVotes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-06-07 12:36 PM
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68. All I can say is this:
What a pile of horse sh*t!

:kick:
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Sock Puppet Donating Member (624 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-06-07 12:36 PM
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69. Think we'll start hearing about a lot of dead male prostitutes in Denver?
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-06-07 01:18 PM
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78. Do they perform sacrifices as part of the treatment? nt
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Aviation Pro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-06-07 12:36 PM
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71. Two words....
...bovine excrement. You're gay haggard, just admit it and be at peace with yourself.
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-06-07 12:36 PM
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74. |
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MrPrax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-06-07 12:36 PM
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72. Miraculous ...
He now only has crank and anal sex with female hookers
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Demeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-06-07 12:36 PM
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73. More Like It's A Crock n/t
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-06-07 12:36 PM
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75. Yeah. OK. Whatever helps you sleep at night, bud.
Edited on Tue Feb-06-07 12:30 PM by Solly Mack
but I might caution that the waking hours will be filled with the torment of denial - of which you'll continue to take out on the GLBT community as a means to alleviate your own misplaced guilt. In your anguish you'll lash out at others. So really, isn't it far better to be who you are than it is to hurt others because you're in pain?
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leftyladyfrommo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-06-07 12:36 PM
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76. I never know what to say when I hear stuff like this.
It is so ridiculous that I can't even fathom it.

Like - does anyone even care?
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HuffleClaw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-06-07 12:36 PM
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77. bwahhahahahhhaaaa
if this wasn't so truly twisted, hypocritical and downright offensive i'd be laughing harder than i am. it IS some damn funny, but wrong on so many levels at the same time. 'while investigating his claim' my ass. 'three weeks of intensive counselling' = he paid them a LOT of money to proclaim him 'cured'.
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Casablanca Donating Member (549 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-06-07 03:44 PM
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79. Three weeks of the Ludovenko Treatment, and Alex "Ted" Haggard is completely reformed!
Cue last few bars of Beethoven's Ninth, Third Movement.

Ironic that one of the British colloqualisms for "homosexual" is "Ted".
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Bigmack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-07-07 12:57 AM
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82. Jon on TDS....
commented on this.

He said "Remember when your dad caught you smoking? How did he cure you from smoking?...... Had you smoke two packs!....."

Could be true. Maybe the guys from Focus on the Family all took turns on him and now he's afraid to even look at a man.
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