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sabra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-29-07 03:41 PM
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Nice to see Jane Fonda in front of camera - W.House

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Nice to see Jane Fonda in front of camera - W.House

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - White House spokesman Tony Snow could not resist a good-natured jab at actress Jane Fonda for appearing at an anti-Iraq war protest nearly 35 years after she earned the nickname "Hanoi Jane" for protesting Vietnam.

"You know, I mean, it's nice to see Jane Fonda in front of a camera again," Snow told reporters when asked about the march on Saturday. He did not elaborate.

...

Snow said it was "perfectly appropriate" for Americans to protest the Iraq war if they desire.

"This is a vigorous democracy," he said.

But he said the protest did not appear to draw the 100,000 people that had been predicted by the event's organizers.

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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-29-07 03:42 PM
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1. Tony 'crock of shit' Snowjob spouting off again. That's the party line today. nt
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-29-07 03:58 PM
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8. 'good natured'-------?? sorry but nothing he says is good natured. it is
always laced with dirt!
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-29-07 03:44 PM
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2. No, it didn't draw 100,000
It drew 500,000. You know Mr. Snow, most people when confronted with a gathering five times as big as they anticipated might should a modicum of deference. And being the mouthpiece for a president with sub-freezing poll numbers might bring about a slightly more respectful attitude toward the vast majority of the country, don't you think?

But no, Tony's all smirk and no smile.
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1620rock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-29-07 03:46 PM
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4. All bullshit and no substance.
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redwitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-29-07 04:23 PM
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12. all hat and no cattle
:-) (Just like his boss)
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sakabatou Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-29-07 05:29 PM
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19. All skull, no brain
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-29-07 03:48 PM
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5. He knows that most people don't know.
No aerial pics... they can spin it however they like. *sigh*
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RebelOne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-30-07 11:19 AM
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31. Has the media reported on the amount of protesters?
It would be nice to be able to prove the numbers to Snow and O'Reilly, who said it was not a huge crowd.
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AndyA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-29-07 03:45 PM
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3. It's not like Jane hasn't been in front of the camera recently.
She was in Monster In-Law a couple of years ago, and looking quite beautiful I might add.

She also did a tribute to Lily Tomlin at the Kennedy Center last year, and she also looked great then.

Plus, Jane has the ability to speak well, motivate a crowd, and move people that George Bush sorely lacks. All in all, I say give Jane Fonda the White House and give * the boot! The world would be better off if we did.
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Parche Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-29-07 03:52 PM
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6. SNOW FLAKE


You mean this nice wonderful loving awesome fantastic Tony Snow said that??
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-29-07 03:55 PM
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7. I'm more offended of Tony Snow in front of a camera
...than Jane Fonda in front of a camera.

Seriously, who let that fucking traitor on my TV?
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shance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-29-07 04:18 PM
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9. Hes right it didn't draw the projected 100,000. It was more like 500,000.
n/t
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Savannah_H Donating Member (123 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-29-07 04:19 PM
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10. Jane
Did you know she had two hip replacement operations? GAWD...
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niyad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-29-07 04:21 PM
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11. welcome to DU!! she is a most remarkable person, and I will always admire her.
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Savannah_H Donating Member (123 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-29-07 04:26 PM
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13. reply
Did you know Jane had two hips replaced?
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joanmj Donating Member (186 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-29-07 04:30 PM
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14. I was there! The crowd was huge!
Tony Snow likes being smug! Just back to Colorado from Washington, D.C.--I was forty feet from the stage. Some estimates have it way beyond a mere 100,000 and the heat is on! Impeach Cheney--THEN Bush!
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-29-07 04:51 PM
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15. I think Jane Fonda's work before the public is a hell of a lot more classy
Edited on Mon Jan-29-07 04:52 PM by Old Crusoe
than the work Tony Snow has done before the same public.

I'll take the body of Jane Fonda's work over Tony Snow's any day of the week.

Long may she run.
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bluedog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-29-07 05:16 PM
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16. nobody attached six figures to the number who appeared.
Q What did the President think of the march on Washington?

MR. SNOW: I don't think he really thought a lot about it. It's nice to see Jane Fonda in front of the camera again. There are a number of people who were here making statements, and that's perfectly appropriate. This is a vigorous democracy.

Q You said something earlier this morning, though. Would you like to repeat that?

MR. SNOW: It's simply that there were predictions of a larger audience than showed up for the protest.

Q And you really counted heads?

MR. SNOW: No. Did you? Did you see 100,000?

Q Don't you think we had a good turnout?

MR. SNOW: Honestly, I didn't go there, Helen, so I'm not going to characterize.

Q How do you make a statement like that?

MR. SNOW: Well, because it's pretty clear from the press accounts that nobody attached six figures to the number who appeared.


***********no one is going to give the actual number of persons protesting........bacause the WH doesn't want to admit they are a total FU.......

.........and media says its not as many as the Viet Nam protests were...........just mention "draft" and see how many more people will be protesting.......especially the republics!!!!!!!
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KansDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-29-07 05:22 PM
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17. This is the White House/Corporate Media "theme" for today...
They know Bush is dropping in the polls and they know they don't have anything to improve his numbers on the eve of his blunder into Iran, so they pull out Jane Fonda, the person the neo-con fascists love to hate, and make her the story. By linking her with the demonstrations last Saturday, BushCo and the Media hope to downplay the significance of the protests by equating Fonda with dissent against the President. They hope Fonda's approval numbers are lower than Bush's.

Is this the best they can do?
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-29-07 05:23 PM
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18. I was not happy because she just dredges up old wounds.
Edited on Mon Jan-29-07 05:24 PM by ShortnFiery
IMO, Jane has become so spoiled that she ACTUALLY believes that it is "all about her." <my personal opinion - could very well be wrong>

However, since we can't stop Jane Fonda from mugging for the cameras, we might as well suck it up and accept her given that it's a different time. :shrug: Peace out. ;)
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TheGriz Donating Member (83 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-29-07 06:58 PM
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20. Jane Fonda sucks.
Vietnam War = wrong headed & tragic
Protesting Vietnam War = noble
Posing proudly with NVA AAA gunners for their propaganda = disgusting
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Dragonfly Donating Member (211 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-29-07 07:19 PM
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21. Ms. Fonda apologized in many
venues for her decades-old unwise decision to pose with the NVA.

Her cinematic and public service careers have been exemplary in the eyes of cross-generational millions of Americans who understand that none of us escapes this life without making mistakes, both small and big.

BTW, overall, her criticism about our nation's actions in escalating hellacious warfare in Southeast Asia was correct and timely.

I welcomed her voice in D.C. and will listen whenever she chooses to speak about illegalities committed in our name.
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Toucano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-29-07 07:38 PM
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23. Protesting the Vietnam War = noble? Try "HEROIC"
How many more would have died had it not been for the heroic work of people like Ms. Fonda?

She made a mistake, she admitted it and apologized.

It's time to let it go.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-29-07 08:58 PM
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24. i think her appearance links iraqi war with vietnam war--and all its problems
and death. so i am glad she made an appearance.
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mitchum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-29-07 09:23 PM
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25. Unlike the sonofabitch in the White House, Fonda actually went to Vietnam
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TheGriz Donating Member (83 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-30-07 02:08 AM
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29. Yeah, she did.
For the benefit of the North Vietnamese Army.

And then she went right back to America, and all of her luxury, earned through filthy, filthy capitalism.

Shrub isn't the topic of discussion. Don't question my distaste for him and his leadership just because I find Fonda's protesting techniques irresponsible and thoughtless.
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roamer65 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-29-07 07:24 PM
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22. I'm FONDA Hanoi Jane!
Edited on Mon Jan-29-07 07:26 PM by roamer65
I don't fault her for what she did in Vietnam. Vietnam was a mistake as well, and I'm glad she helped to bring it to light. You'd think this country would have said "uh...no way, no how" after the French lost their butts at Dien Bien Phu in '54, but nooooo...:eyes:
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-29-07 09:24 PM
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26. What many younger people (< 45) don't realize is that there's still
a great deal of animosity for her that has not faded, even today, precisely because she went to NORTH Vietnam.

IMO, if she really wanted to help make this protest STICK, she would have been in D.C. only in spirit. Her presence served as a distraction. I really think that she's arrogant for having showed up. Back in the 60s, very few, and I mean, *very few* members of the military respected her for going to the NORTH to protest.

I am still working, and continuously urging myself to forgive her and I'm far from alone when you are talking about family members with loved ones in Vietnam who are older than 45 y.o.

She was selfish, but celebrities usually have that problem. No one who knows how much she was despised at the time and how much the right wing still hates her, can honestly say that Jane Fonda's presence Saturday helped our cause? If you can make a case, I would honestly be amazed?

But it's a free country and no one will tell her no, but her decision to come Saturday, IMO, was all about her own personal ego. :shrug:
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damntexdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-29-07 09:31 PM
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27. That's true, it didn't draw 100k.
It apparently drew more like 400k. ;-)
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kiwilover Donating Member (48 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-30-07 02:03 AM
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28. VFW DRUNKEN ASSHOLES
Went to a VFW---went in to the bathroom and saw a picture of Jane Fonda in the urinal. Lost what little respect I had for the VFW. I personally think that Jane Fonda is a hero for going to North Vietnam. Actions like hers helped to bring an end to that awful war.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-30-07 09:52 AM
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30. Welcome to DU, kiwilover!
:hi:
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