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whometense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-15-07 03:34 PM
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Reuters: No Al Gore in U.S Presidential race
Edited on Mon Jan-15-07 04:26 PM by whometense
http://today.reuters.com/tv/videoChannel.aspx?storyid=42e6e16439492e529e13ef0f9e5165277761a7e1

Jan. 15 -Al Gore says that he will not run in the 2008 election, saying he was involved in "a different kind of campaign."

Al Gore, who is currently in Japan promoting his award-winning documentary "An Inconvenient Truth", spoke with journalists in Tokyo, saying, "The U.S. should be leading the world toward a solution for this climate crisis instead of leading in the other direction."

The United States withdrew from the Kyoto Protocol, which mandates cuts in greenhouse gas emissions in the 2008-2012 period, saying the agreement would be harmful to the U.S. economy.

As host of the 1997 talks that forged the protocol, the Japanese government has urged major polluters, including the United States, China and India, to work harder to combat climate change, most recently during a visit by Prime Minister Shinzo Abe to Europe last week.

The documentary "An Inconvenient Truth" was inspired by a series of multi-media presentations about climate change that Mr. Gore regularly delivers to audiences around the world.
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beachmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-15-07 03:35 PM
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1. This is very sad, as I liked Gore, and he's better than the big 3
talked up in the media -- Clinton, Edwards, and Obama. Alas, he's found his niche, and he may very well change the world doing what he's doing instead of being President of the United States.
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Admiral Loinpresser Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-15-07 06:42 PM
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75. Don't worry the headline is completely misleading.
He wouldn't make such an announcement this way after four years. Many debunk this story down thread. If anyone wants more detail, I'll elaborate.
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peabody71 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-16-07 10:30 AM
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104. Get a grip!! This may not be accurate.
First of all caught you all believing the media. And second of all I don't believe he would go out this way.
He has been around awhile and is very aware of not closing doors too tightly.
Calm down.
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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-15-07 03:37 PM
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2. I'm sorry that this is his decision
He might have been the one to right the wrongs. Or at least start.
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monmouth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-15-07 03:37 PM
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3. I am sorry in a way, but he can accomplish so much more in
the new venue he is so capable in. I wish him the best and hope his work will be recognized globally.
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illinoisprogressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-15-07 03:37 PM
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4. I was hoping until middle summer for Gore, until I realized he would not run.
I was set to support him in any way figuring him to be the man best able to lead and fix the W. messes. To repair the country and heal it.
Then, I realized he was not going to run. I felt really bad and looked to Warner. Then he decided not run.
drat.
Now I look for someone else and if he doesn't run I will just throw in the towel and watch. lol.
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Greeby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-15-07 03:38 PM
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5. *sigh*
:(
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Dinger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-15-07 03:39 PM
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6. I Am Very Sad To Hear This
But it doesn't surprise me all that much.:-(
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-15-07 03:39 PM
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7. Maybe there will be a role for him at the United Nations.... NT
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whometense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-15-07 03:42 PM
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13. Bush will never appoint him to anything,
more's the pity. But there should be an important place for him in any sane administration.
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-15-07 03:46 PM
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21. I'm talking come 08, when BushCo is banished. NT
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Emillereid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-15-07 03:39 PM
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8. Dammit! I think he's humanity's only real hope!
He's the only one out there so far who really gets the big picture. Also, his election would go far to restore our constitutional government insofar as his presdency was stolen.

Now it's back to just ordinary politicians who can't see past the lastest focus group or poll.
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whometense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-15-07 03:41 PM
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12. I disagree.
I see Kerry as quite capable of accomplishing everything that a President Gore would have.
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Emillereid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-15-07 03:54 PM
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28. Gimme a break. Kerry is a lost cause. He's finished.
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Mass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-15-07 04:23 PM
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43. We disagree!
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wisteria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-15-07 04:40 PM
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53. i disagree, Never count Kerry out! n/t
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Pastiche423 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-15-07 03:55 PM
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29. lol
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KingFlorez Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-15-07 04:22 PM
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42. Kerry couldn't even defeat a bungling loser
He's not even on the same lines Gore
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wisteria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-15-07 04:42 PM
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55. I think Gore would disagree with you on this. n/t
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Le Taz Hot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-16-07 09:02 AM
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97. Is that why Gore supported
DEAN in the 2004 primaries? Gore KNOWS Kerry. Gore supported Dean. I think that speaks VOLUMES.
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President Jesus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-16-07 09:22 AM
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100. And how did that work out for Dean?
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Le Taz Hot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-16-07 09:32 AM
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101. Is there an A.D.D. problem
here I need to be aware of? My response was to your assertion that Gore somehow approved of Kerry. I offered you empirical evidence to the contrary.
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President Jesus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-17-07 06:08 AM
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114. Learn how to read and/or how to use the Internets
I made no such assertion. You must be referring to someone else.

All that Gore endorsement proved was that he has no juice left (if he ever had any to begin with).

ps: you probably should look up the meaning of "empirical" before you use it again, umkay Einstein?
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Le Taz Hot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-17-07 07:01 AM
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115. Ohh, cheeky!
Wrong, but cheeky. I like cheeky.
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President Jesus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-17-07 10:05 AM
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116. Wrong about...what??
Here's what you're wrong about:
1) You replied to me thinking I was "wisteria."
2) You completely misunderstood wisteria's point. Completely.
3) I never asserted Gore approved of Kerry. Nor did wisteria.
4) You offered the exact opposite of "empirical" evidence. You offered an ad hoc observation. A banal one at that.
5) Gore ultimately did "approve" of Kerry and http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/Vote2004/story?id=186251">stumped for him in Florida in October of 2004. Lotta good that did.
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Le Taz Hot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-17-07 12:09 PM
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118. That's it.
I'm putting you on my Buddy List. We'll be life-long friends.

LTH<--Feeling all warm & fuzzy inside.
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janx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-17-07 01:26 PM
Response to Reply #116
121. So you feel that Gore did no good for Kerry?
What do you mean?
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President Jesus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-16-07 09:21 AM
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99. This is perhaps the most inane comment I've ever read on DU.
Please. If you're trying to make the case for Gore, you simply could not have chosen a more ridiculous defense.

Gore was a virtual INCUMBENT and couldn't defeat a bungling loser. He was handed the nomination by a president with a 60%+ approval, and still dropped the ball...against a candidate that was substantially less impressive, polished, and qualified than he was in 2004 (not that he was any great shakes then, either). For chrissakes, his campaign was focussed on distancing himself from a popular, effective president. Is that not one of the stupidest strategies imaginable?

In all seriousness, Gore's defeat (or tie) in 2000, from the position he was in, is far more embarrassing than Kerry's loss to an incumbent during a war.
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jahyarain Donating Member (254 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-16-07 06:06 PM
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109. well, you're wrong in several aspects
Gore was neither defeated, nor did he tie bush in 2000. he won. he took it all the way to the supreme court who stopped the recount because of where it was going. he at least tried. unlike your boy Kerry. i don't particularly have anything against Kerry other than that fact but he's nowhere near President Gore. if Kerry was half the man President Gore is, he would have taken kenneth blackwell to the sc.
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President Jesus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-17-07 06:02 AM
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113. Oh. Silly me.
I guess our collective outrage over the past 6+ years should be directed at President Gore, since (as you report with such authority) he won the presidency in 2000.

One question, though. Why does everyone call Gore 'Dubya'? That's a weird nickname.

One last question: Clinton left office with a 60%+ approval rating. Gore won 50% of the popular vote. Where did that 10%+ go? (Think about that fo a sec. There were millions of citizens who approved of Bill Clinton but somehow liked a retard more than Gore!) It couldn't possibly be that Gore was a horrible candidate, because as everyone on this board has indicated, Gore was (and is) the best candidate in the history of the republic.
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susanna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-16-07 11:27 PM
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112. Really? He didn't even fight when he could have.
Edited on Tue Jan-16-07 11:28 PM by susanna
At least Gore did that.
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Admiral Loinpresser Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-15-07 06:46 PM
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76. It's not what you think!
The headline is very misleading. They didn't quote him. They probably misconstrued his stock answer (i.e. no plans to run). There are several interests, especially right wing, which don't want Gore to run. As time goes on I predict we will see more and more disinformation like this.
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janx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-15-07 07:05 PM
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82. Without a doubt.


One great thing about Gore is that he makes clear where he stands--and he doesn't talk to the American people through the media of foreign countries. He'll make an announcement one way or another when the time comes.
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Nihil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-15-07 07:09 PM
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84. Agreed
Al Gore is the ONLY US politician who shows anything like a real appreciation of the
shit that we (i.e., the occupants of this planet) are in at the moment.

The ONLY ONE.

The alternatives seem to be Ms Clinton (in the pocket of the multinationals),
Obama (who thinks that burning more coal is a good move :eyes:),
or Kuchinich <sp?> (who seems to be on track but lacking in mainstream support).

I can totally understand why Gore would want to stay out of the circus as he has
achieved so much more in terms of global consciousness than any mere politician
has done. At the same time, it is a shame as not only does the US lose out from
his absence, the whole world loses out.

As Emillereid said, "Now it's back to politicians who can't see past the latest
focus group or poll" ... so long and thanks for all the fish ...
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Botany Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-15-07 03:40 PM
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9. After 2000 and the way the media, the DNC, the repugs, and the SCOTUS
treated him, I say fine. For Al to get over his hurt and move on and work
to save the world we are richer for him just being alive.

I wish Al, Tipper, and his family & friends nothing but the best.

Al Gore :patriot:
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whometense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-15-07 03:43 PM
Response to Reply #9
15. Amen. n/t
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politicasista Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-15-07 03:40 PM
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10. I like Al and I am sad he won't be running.
Edited on Mon Jan-15-07 03:52 PM by politicasista
He was my second choice because we need experience. I do hope that Al can continue his global warming crusade and continue to speak out against this criminal adminstration. I am still unhappy about 2000 and 2004.
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Phredicles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-15-07 03:40 PM
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11. I may be in denial, but I do not see where he specifically says he will not
run for president in that video.

If he did say so, I hope he can be persuaded to chance his mind.
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whometense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-15-07 03:44 PM
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16. He doesn't say so in the video, that's true.
I assumed the story was confirmed, but who knows?
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Junkdrawer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-15-07 03:47 PM
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22. Perhaps he's being smoked out...
As I said before, Al benefits from a late entry. A story that misquotes him as saying he's definitively out could be used to force him to reveal his hand.
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-15-07 03:56 PM
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30. You make a good point. USA Today is the Newspaper that would try
to "smoke him out." The Editor (can't remember her name) has said a few times on Diane Rheem's show on NPR that Al Gore could be a contender.

I don't think he will "run" but he could be pushed to come in late. And, I'm still hopeful that an effort to get him "written in" on the Primary Ballots could occur.

Who knows. :shrug:
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Junkdrawer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-15-07 04:02 PM
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34. I Googled for Gore news and only Reuters is carrying the "no run" story...
and it says he was asked if he would run in 2008 and he is quoted as responding "I'm involved in a different kind of campaign" - his standard "no comment" answer.

I find it strange he would make such a big announcement to a Japanese audience first.

Look for the US media to quickly pickup the story and force Al to either live with it or issue a denial.
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drm604 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-15-07 04:18 PM
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40. That's what I see here.
It's his standard no comment answer. He has said in the past that he wasn't going to make a Sherman statement, so apparently he feels that anything short of that does not absolutely rule it out. I don't see a Sherman statement in that article.
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rosesaylavee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-15-07 05:05 PM
Response to Reply #11
64. I am right there with you and I don't think we are denial.
Listened to the video two times - no comment recorded that said he wasn't running... just the same meme that whoever gets the nomination will have to address global warming. AND as someone says downthread, you would think such an important comment would have made the video??!!

I will believe it when I hear it.
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Supersedeas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-16-07 03:53 PM
Response to Reply #64
107. same here
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gratefultobelib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-15-07 03:42 PM
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14. I kinda sorta figured this is how it would turn out, but I'm
still saddened to hear of the actuality. In a way, though, it shows his work on behalf of the environment is for real and not a way to win points politically. History will view him very favorably as opposed to Idiot Boy.
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Junkdrawer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-15-07 03:45 PM
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17. I guess the statement wasn't in the online video...
You'd think such a newsworthy statement would make the cut.. :shrug:
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Double T Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-15-07 03:45 PM
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18. I believe Al Gore would have easily won the Presidency in 2008 AND...........
Edited on Mon Jan-15-07 03:45 PM by Double T
specially made a REAL substantial difference to our country and the world. I'm sure HE will still make an important difference to the world's environment.
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marmar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-15-07 03:45 PM
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19. Je suis triste.
:) :cry:
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Jackpine Radical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-15-07 03:45 PM
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20. Our finest--Gore, Feingold--have no desire for the bloody campaign.
I don't blame them. Especially Gore, after his experiences of 2000. Actually, I get queasy at the thought of voting for anyone who wants that job badly enough to let themselves become the kind of creatures they need to be in order to win.
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harun Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-16-07 09:33 AM
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102. Who would want to clean up *'s mess ? (I don't blame them either)
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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-15-07 03:48 PM
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23. I don't blame him. He must really appreciate being out of politics.
Being able to say what he believes every single day. He'll do a good job of teaching about the environment for the rest of his days. He is smart enough and interested in technology enough to be the point man on that issue.

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Coventina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-15-07 03:49 PM
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24. He has my heart & vote if he ever changes his mind.
:loveya: Al

You ARE my president, not that fraud currently in the WH.
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Mojambo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-15-07 03:49 PM
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25. America loses. n/t
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SharonRB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-15-07 03:49 PM
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26. So that's the end of it, huh?
Edited on Mon Jan-15-07 03:52 PM by SharonRB
I need to find a candidate now, I guess.

Maybe he'll wind up as Secretary of the Interior or head of the EPA. He would be wonderful in either post, but I'd rather see him as President.
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Botany Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-15-07 04:01 PM
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32. Nothing wrong w/ a women President

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regnaD kciN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-15-07 10:13 PM
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91. Great photo of Stephanie...
Here's a much earlier photo of her in a situation I can only think of as prophetic.



But could you imagine Steph as President? Whenever one of her political opponents tried to attack or discredit her, she could have the Marine Band reply with a rendition of "You're a Lying Sack of Crap"... ;-)

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ChiciB1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-15-07 03:51 PM
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27. I Have ALWAYS Been A Big Gore Fan.... But If He Doesn't Want To
run, it makes it a little easier for me now.

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Pastiche423 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-15-07 03:58 PM
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31. Al Gore has found his mission in life
and it's much larger than the U.S. presidency. My admiration for him keeps soaring.

Yet, if he did decide to run, I'd support him in a NY second.
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Edgewater_Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-15-07 04:01 PM
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33. What A TERRIBLE Story - It Says NOTHING Of The Sort
There is no quote from Gore in the video package that says anything even CLOSE to the headline that he doesn't run -- and if you notice, there is no direct quote from Gore or from any reporter that says "I will not run."

If he said it, it's not in the story and not in the video package.

Shame on Reuters for such a deceptive headline and horrible job of reporting.
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Phredicles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-15-07 04:07 PM
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36. I agree; can you anti-recommend a story?
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lildreamer316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-15-07 05:02 PM
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62. Start a separate thread..
...best bet.
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Junkdrawer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-15-07 05:35 PM
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67. I did:
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Junkdrawer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-15-07 04:08 PM
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37. I agree.. See post 22 and following...n/t
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janx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-15-07 04:10 PM
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38. I can't play audio on my computer and therefore don't
do any videos with sound.

So he said nothing of the kind in the clip?

This headline surprised me in that Gore, should he really decide against running, will probably announce HERE in the United States the way he did prior to 2004. It wouldn't make much sense for him to do it in Japan.
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Guaranteed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-15-07 04:49 PM
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59. I'm not seeing anything new in this. nt
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Megahurtz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-15-07 04:05 PM
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35. Crap!
That sucks!
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Marnieworld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-15-07 04:12 PM
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39. Well he should head the EPA as soon as a Dem is in power
But I am so freakin sad about this. I really wanted Gore.
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road2000 Donating Member (995 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-15-07 04:21 PM
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41. NewsMax started this
Reuters may have picked this up from NewsMax:

http://www.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2007/1/15/124225.shtml?s=ic

It's very strange there's no direct quote -- just that he "ruled it out."
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janx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-15-07 04:25 PM
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44. That figures.
That's Newsmax's quote, not his.

GEEZ. Newsmax WISHES he wouldn't run. The only Gore quote about a possible campaign is:

"I'm involved in a different kind of campaign." Others in this thread are certainly right; it's his standard answer.


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Junkdrawer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-15-07 04:30 PM
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47. Reuters released this at 2:30...4 hours before the Network News...
Let's see if CBS, ABC, NBC etc run with the story.
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janx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-15-07 04:35 PM
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49. And Newsmax released it at 12:40 (ET).
The cables might run with it as well. Ah, what passes for news these days! :rofl:
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SharonRB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-15-07 04:27 PM
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46. I was finally able to watch the video
Either they edited it out, or he never said it. I'd love to see the pre-cut version to know why they said he's definitely not running.
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SKKY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-15-07 04:27 PM
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45. Unfortunately this is good news...
...because I truly feel he will do more good for the environment in his current position.
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Peggy Day Donating Member (859 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-15-07 04:34 PM
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48. Darn, I just got my Re-Elect Gore button! nt
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Pirate Smile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-15-07 04:35 PM
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50. This wasn't his standard denial leaving wiggle room?
It isn't completely clear from the article.

It doesn't give a direct quote from Gore.

I'd like to see the direct quote to see that he has changed from his standard "no plans" comment.

I wouldn't be surprised if he rules it out completely but I can't tell from the article AND I don't think all reporters and headline writers are experts in presidential politics, i.e. know the semantic dance Gore has been doing for the past year or so.
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janx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-15-07 04:36 PM
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51. meme chose
The same. Nothing has changed.
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crispini Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-15-07 04:46 PM
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56. Exactly.
I don't see where the direct quote is, and I don't see him endorsing anyone else. In other words, I think this is still where we were before: 95% no but still room to think about it.
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w4rma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-15-07 04:37 PM
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52. Hopefully this is a Rev. Moon/NewsMax-started exaggerated story. (nt)
Edited on Mon Jan-15-07 04:37 PM by w4rma
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janx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-15-07 04:46 PM
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57. Look at this bit from another Reuters story, same day:
The one-time presidential candidate did not answer questions from the media on Monday. None of the business executives at the event asked him about rumors that he might build on the higher profile created by his environmental campaign to stand for the presidency again.

http://today.reuters.com/news/articlebusiness.aspx?type=ousiv&storyID=2007-01-15T061057Z_01_T214198_RTRIDST_0_BUSINESSPRO-GORE-JAPAN-CLIMATE-DC.XML&pageNumber=1&imageid=&cap=&sz=13&WTModLoc=BizArt-C1-ArticlePage1

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road2000 Donating Member (995 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-15-07 05:01 PM
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61. I saw that too, Janx
So far, we have only the NewsMax-spawned story-without-a-quote. I'm really surprised Reuters would be so careless as to pick this up.
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Junkdrawer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-15-07 05:04 PM
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63. The real test is whether any network or major newspaper picks up...
the story.

So far, nothing...
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Admiral Loinpresser Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-15-07 06:37 PM
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73. This means absolutely nothing.
Even assuming no bad faith by Newsmax (if involved in story), I have seen this scenario over and over:

Al Gore, in a vanilla speech in his every day life gets inaccurately quoted so as to be misconstrued to change the status quo which has existed since December 2002:

Status Quo--

1) He has no plans to run; and
2) He will not rule out a run.

The idea that after more than four years he would flippantly change such status quo on one of his daily "Are you running?" questions after a routine speech in Japan is ludicrous. When he makes a definitive decision he will make an announcement (as he has done every time he was a possible contender) and we will all read major headlines announcing that decision.

We will see more and more of these misquote stories as time goes on. No big deal.
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janx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-15-07 06:50 PM
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78. 12 Votes for Greatest Page!
:rofl: There's no agenda here, is there?


:rofl:
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WindRavenX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-15-07 04:41 PM
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54. dammit.
I was hoping he'd run again; he was my first choice.
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Admiral Loinpresser Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-15-07 06:49 PM
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77. Don't worry. The story is misinformation.
Sorry for the repetitiveness, but if you see any of my other posts in this thread, the cited Reuters story cannot be viewed as credible.
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Freddie Stubbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-16-07 06:41 AM
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94. Why is the story not credible?
:shrug:
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New Earth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-15-07 04:46 PM
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58. that really sucks
Edited on Mon Jan-15-07 04:46 PM by Faye
:(
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jahyarain Donating Member (254 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-16-07 06:21 PM
Response to Reply #58
110. cool vnv pic!
one of my favorite bands! :hi:
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New Earth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-16-07 11:16 PM
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111. cool
they are mine too :hi:

isn't is nice to see some random person who likes them?
what other bands do you like? :o
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Czolgosz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-15-07 04:51 PM
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60. Maybe Gore would add experience and weight to an Edwards/Gore ticket or an Obama/Gore ticket?
Both Edwards and Obama would benefit from a vice presidential candidate who has more experience and who would bring environmental issues to the forefront.
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-15-07 06:37 PM
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74. Why would he do that?
He was already VP for 8 years. He knows the limitation of that job - he likely lobbied Clinton to implement many of his ideas on the environment. In those years, the problem got worse. If they would have defined SUVs as cars in 1993, the amount of gas consumed would be lower now and the environment cleaner. If Gore were willing to run as VP, he would likey run for President.

Because they didn't the second generation of SUVs were even bigger and heavier. This also impacted many people to get them for safety reasons. Because they were part of the mix, they made smaller more fuel efficient car less safe.

Because of Gore's work, every Democrat will have a global warming plank in their platform. If this is someone's main issue they should look at how long term that committment was.
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Czolgosz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-15-07 07:01 PM
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81. Maybe he would do that because VP is a better platform to promote
his enlightened views on important topics and because he would want to see a Democrat in the White House instead of a Republican and perhaps he might come to believe that having him as VP on the ticket would be a boon for the nominee and the party?

Maybe not....
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Singular73 Donating Member (999 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-15-07 05:22 PM
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65. Damn.
:(
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partylessinOhio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-15-07 05:24 PM
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66. Al Gore was elected our President in 2000. He was gracious when the SC
stole his presidency when they STOPPED the vote recount in Florida which we all know was crooked.

Al Gore is a bigger man than Bush could ever hope to be.

I can't blame Al Gore for deciding not to run and become a Repug target again.

Al Gore was our Vice President for 8 years. The Clinton/Gore campaign and years in office were magical with the exception of the setup which precipitated the impeachment.

Thank you, Al Gore! (I wish he lived "on my street.")





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fujiyama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-15-07 05:37 PM
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68. No real new news here
I don't see him wanting to deal with Hillary...It'd be an awkward experience and I don't blame him for not wanting to do it, especially with a media that has proven to be very hostile to him.

I wish him luck with whatever he does. If he does decide to run, he'll likely have my vote and many others in the primary.
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MasonJar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-15-07 05:39 PM
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69. I admire him more than anyone alive. He is a true statesman of
the world. Keep up the good work, Al.
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road2000 Donating Member (995 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-15-07 05:51 PM
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70. Would Gore Swamp His Environmental Message?
A colleague of mine at draftgore.com made a good point: would Al Gore "step on" his global warming message now? I think not.

Gore supporters: if you haven't yet signed the draftgore petition, please do!

Thanks,

SBE
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Harper_is_Bush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-15-07 06:57 PM
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79. By that logic, why would Gore swamp his message with a presidential run?
Would that not result in all his critics saying "ah see, we told you so...it was never about global warming it's all about another shot at the Presidency"
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janx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-15-07 07:07 PM
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83. As president, he could forward his message much more
effectively, actually.
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Harper_is_Bush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-15-07 07:09 PM
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85. your opinion. My opinion: the presidency would distract him from the message.
At the moment he's able to push his message exclusively and without the distractions of partisanship and all the other domestic and foreign issues a president needs to give attention to.

He has total legitimacy now...that would be chipped away (fair or not) if he ran.
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RestoreGore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-16-07 03:34 PM
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105. And if I don't sign it, I'm not considered a supporter of his?
This really is black to white to so many people isn't it? I refuse to sign any petition to harass him into something his whole heart is not into. Been there, done that. But I support the man and love him dearly...So much so, I think he should now be left alone to make his own decisions.
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Zorra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-15-07 06:20 PM
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71. Aw, rats. n/t
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2Design Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-15-07 06:22 PM
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72. BFEE will make such a mess why would Al want to clean it up - he already
won once - now he is on to other things - good for him - who ever inherits this mess from the republics is in deep doo doo - the economy has been in the cellar and only on the surface looked good with the housing atm brough about by greenspan who was bought out by BFEE on day one - I can't imagine why anyone would want the mess left -
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Recursion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-15-07 06:59 PM
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80. The man has been through enough
As much as I want to see him in his rightful place as President, I cannot ask him to go through that again if he is unwilling.
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goforit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-15-07 09:44 PM
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88. Nohing but tears from me, this world is so uncivilized they don't deserve him.
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Miss Chybil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-15-07 07:32 PM
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86. That's his standard reply.
I don't know, if it really means "No," or "I'm focusing on this right now. We can talk about that later."
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-15-07 09:23 PM
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87. Some questioning of this statement going on.
http://www.dailykos.com/hotlist/add/2007/1/15/204332/123/displaystory//

Links to other blogs, like where did Reuters come up with this statement.
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cal04 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-15-07 09:47 PM
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89. Kos:We now have an entirely new story
Where did Reuters come up with this interpretation of Gore's remarks? A Bloomberg report of the event goes back to a statement made in September, but mentions nothing said today. The Japan Times makes no reference to his future plans at all.

Did Reuters make this up out of whole cloth?

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2007/1/15/204332/123
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regnaD kciN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-15-07 10:06 PM
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90. The press messing up a story on Al Gore? I'm shocked!
:eyes:

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janx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-15-07 11:23 PM
Response to Reply #89
92. See my post #57--another Reuters story that directly contradicts
the headline in question.
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SariesNightly Donating Member (237 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-16-07 12:57 AM
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93. Gore's right
I'm sad about his decision as well, but I respect it. The presidency may not be the besy seat to fight for certain things.
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Heidi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-16-07 08:23 AM
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95. Kick.
:kick:
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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-16-07 08:23 AM
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96. Reuters: Gore Says He Won't Be Candidate For President
http://www.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/SP197333.htm

Japanese business can lead climate campaign - Gore
15 Jan 2007 12:14:46 GMT
Source: Reuters

(Recasts with Gore ruling out presidential candidacy)

TOKYO, Jan 15 (Reuters) - Former U.S. Vice President Al Gore said on Monday he would not run in the next presidential race, despite rumours that he might build on the higher profile created by his environmental campaign to do so.

Asked whether he had plans to stand in the 2008 election, Gore ruled it out, adding: "I'm involved in a different kind of campaign."

During a visit to Japan to promote his award-winning documentary "An Inconvenient Truth", Gore also urged Japan's top business lobby to spark a policy change on global warming by sending a strong message to its U.S. counterparts.

"The Japanese business community, because of the respect with which you are regarded, can have a powerful influence on the shaping of opinions within the U.S. business community," Gore told executives at the Keidanren (Japanese Business Federation).

MORE

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ramapo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-16-07 09:14 AM
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98. He is truly a recovered politician
Imagine what he went through on a personal level to get through being robbed of the most powerful job on the planet. He got through it and went on to make more of a contribution to our country than Bush has as *Resident.

I don't blame Gore for one second for not wanting to go through the selling of his soul that would be necessary had he really wanted to run. He is due our respect and gratitude.
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JCMach1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-16-07 09:36 AM
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103. First things first: Oscar Campaign!
:)
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RestoreGore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-16-07 03:42 PM
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106. Mr. Gore Is Not Up For An Oscar...
Edited on Tue Jan-16-07 03:45 PM by RestoreGore
An Inconvenient Truth more than likely will however be nominated in the Best Documentary category, and should it win it will be the producers who will receive the award on behalf of the movie. And hopefully should that happen, this message will be infused into the consciousness of people who may not even have known it existed or the state of the world they lived in until they saw this award given, and it will then make them curious enough to turn off American Idol and to know this truth to inspire them to action to save this planet.
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Trajan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-16-07 05:13 PM
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108. I could dredge up old links from months ago ....
stating essentially the same thing .... but what would be the point ?

Some will curse the pros; some will curse the cons .... some will agree with the message while others will kick the messenger .... it really matters not ...

Al will NOT run ..... I regret that fact, but it is a fact ....
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Admiral Loinpresser Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-17-07 11:52 AM
Response to Reply #108
117. Here's the real deal:
Gore's spokesman announced yesterday that Gore has not ruled out a run in 2008:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2007/01/16/huffpos-melinda-henneber_n_38770.html

"Absolutely nothing new,'' Gore spokesman Michael Feldman said of the report. "He's been saying the same thing for six years - that he's not running but has not completely ruled it out - and depending on where he is, it's reported differently.''
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goforit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-17-07 12:17 PM
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119. From Michael Feldmans lips to Gods ears.... It's OK to dream.
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ozone_man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-17-07 12:20 PM
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120. That gives me some hope.
Without Gore or comparable candidate, Dean, Feingold, for example, it's a pretty depressing field of candidates. Some very good comments.
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