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GayboyBilly Donating Member (177 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-21-03 06:36 PM
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White House Smear campaign grows!
This is utter Bullshit, comming from Ths Administration!


http://www.msnbc.com/news/942095.asp?0cv=CA01
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-21-03 06:42 PM
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1. Add this to killing
David Kelly and I would say someone is sending a very strong message, to anyone else who might even think about coming forward.

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indictrichardperle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-21-03 06:45 PM
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2. too damn bad
NBC Today show to a special on the Wislon smearing in the morning....this aint going away.

And i no longer agree with those who say this scandal will be swept under the rug. This scandal is multiplying by a factor of 5 every day.
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Frances Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-21-03 09:02 PM
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23. I think it's significant that this will be on NBC
I think NBC is much more rightwing than ABC and CBS.

I wonder how hard hitting the story will be.
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are_we_united_yet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-21-03 06:47 PM
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3. "White House.....
deliberately leaked his wife’s identity as a covert CIA operative"

Treason?

Impeachable?

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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-21-03 07:35 PM
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12. Yes, it is a felony
To reveal the identity of a agent.
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quarbis Donating Member (235 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-21-03 07:35 PM
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13. Felony at best.
The was a new law passed several years ago that made
outing covert agents a felony.
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karlschneider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-21-03 06:51 PM
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4. Shrub has had his ass covered by his daddy & poppy's rich friends
Edited on Mon Jul-21-03 06:53 PM by karlschneider
for 25 years. It has never, in his pampered, protected life, occurred to him that he might actually have to answer for his frat-boy lying and arrogant machinations. Some of the chickens have come home to roost, and more than few are shitting on *'s head. A richly deserved comeuppance.
:bounce:

edit: removed extraneous verbiage.
:D

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dArKeR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-21-03 06:55 PM
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5. The Nation's David Corn published this July 16. The first as far as I know
http://www.thenation.com/capitalgames/index.mhtml?bid=3&pid=823

Give him the credit not the Whore followers!

Did senior Bush officials blow the cover of a US intelligence officer working covertly in a field of vital importance to national security--and break the law--in order to strike at a Bush administration critic and intimidate others?

It sure looks that way, if conservative journalist Bob Novak can be trusted.

In a recent column on Nigergate, Novak examined the role of former Ambassador Joseph Wilson IV in the affair. Two weeks ago, Wilson went public, writing in The New York Times and telling The Washington Post about the trip he took to Niger in February 2002--at the request of the CIA--to check out allegations that Saddam Hussein had tried to purchase uranium for a nuclear weapons program from Niger. Wilson was a good pick for the job. He had been a State Department officer there in the mid-1970s. He was ambassador to Gabon in the early 1990s. And in 1997 and 1998, he was the senior director for Africa at the National Security Council and in...


http://darker0darker.tripod.com/
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Robbien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-21-03 07:00 PM
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6. This report is by Andrea Mitchell
The republicans made a big mistake by dissing her. She is going to be a bulldog from now on.
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UpInArms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-21-03 07:03 PM
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8. Andrea Mitchell is Alan Greenspan's wife eom
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twilight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-21-03 07:12 PM
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9. WHAT!!!!
You've got to be kidding - Alan Greenspan's WIFE?

:dem:
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UpInArms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-21-03 07:39 PM
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14. fact more interesting than fiction
http://www.cnn.com/ALLPOLITICS/1997/04/06/greenspan.wedding/index.shtml

Greenspan, Mitchell Wed Before Washington Power Crowd

'It Was Beautiful,' Pronounces Bride

WASHINGTON (AllPolitics, April 6, 1997) -- Alan Greenspan may be able to send Wall Street scrambling with his merest utterance, but even he didn't have enough power to stop the drizzle from dampening his wedding day.

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Jim Sagle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-21-03 09:07 PM
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24. She's a golddigger and a graverobber.
:puke:
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UpInArms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-21-03 07:01 PM
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7. 3 people investigated and said it was false in the past year???
The White House strongly denies the charge. In fact, Wilson was only one of three experts who warned the administration a year before the State of the Union that the Niger information didn’t check out.

As previously reported on NBC News, then- Ambassador to Niger Barbro Owens-Fitzpatrick reported it was false in February 2002. So did four-star Marine Gen. Carlton Fulford two months later. So the warnings came to the White House more than a year before the State of the Union.


hmmmmm....

I just don't think they can "damage control" this away.
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Kellanved Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-21-03 07:23 PM
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10. they only know one trick
Conservatives almost always do.
The used it with Blix, with that reporter (sry) and now they are using it with Wilson. It will fail sooner or later.
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MuseRider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-21-03 07:29 PM
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11. I don't think it matters
who told them what from the CIA or any other group. They were only listening to their own, specially made OSP guys.
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SeattleDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-21-03 08:36 PM
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19. and, this is the WH defense that it's NOT smearing Wilson!
that's how I read it.

Wilson claims there is a smear campaign against him for revealing this information, and the White House basically says "Nuh-uh. You weren't the first to reveal this" which implies that if there really were a smear campaign, all three people would be being smeared right now! Anyone else read the link and get that impression?
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Beetwasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-21-03 07:43 PM
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15. And the Media's Reporting It!!!
This is what's really going to do them in!!!! They are desperate!!!
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maryallen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-21-03 08:32 PM
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18. Mrs. Greenspan's reporting ...
Is a sign that the "Powers Behind the Throne" want Shrubbie out.
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Samantha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-21-03 08:28 PM
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16. This is as serious as it gets
if this story is true, someone's head will roll. If it can be tracked to a Republic Senior Staff official, I can't begin to think what the consequences might be. Revealing the identity of a covert CIA agent and that agent's mission is undermining the security of the United States government.

There are some things that are political and other things which surpass that. This is one of the latter. This is one of the acts the spy we now have imprisoned that Israel constantly tries to negotiate with us to release did. His name is something like Pollert. Something like that. His first name might be Jason (haven't heard this name in years). Just mention this name in front of someone involved with national security and they go off. His revelation of the identity of covert agents resulted in some of them being killed. The United States does not even discuss releasing this spy because the intelligence community would go off if it did, even to Israel.

If someone in the Republican White House revealed Wilson's wife's job as a covert CIA agent, that's as serious as it gets. It won't go away. The question is: can Wilson prove it?
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Dudley_DUright Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-21-03 08:42 PM
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20. The name you are recalling is
Jonathan Pollard.
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short bus president Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-21-03 08:43 PM
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21. Jonathan Pollard
he lives pretty close by here.

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Buns_of_Fire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-21-03 08:44 PM
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22. Jonathan Pollard, is who you're thinking of...
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Wonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-21-03 08:32 PM
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17. yes that is what all the flag wavers keep telling me...
It was just 16 words...blah blah blah.

and I got three words to say to that... Kiss my :kick:!!
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are_we_united_yet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-21-03 10:01 PM
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28. Have you ever noticed how
incredibly empty headed many of the flag waivers are? They are in some sort of Patriotic vociferous trance, ranting and raving about Clinton, 911 WMD Saddam and other unrelated crap.
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Frances Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-21-03 09:09 PM
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25. Doesn't the Patriot Act cover
this kind of behavior?

Where is Ashcroft?
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JoFerret Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-21-03 09:14 PM
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26. It will get even uglier
before this is over.
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Gman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-21-03 09:15 PM
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27. Joe Wilson will also be found dead in a park somewhere
We'll all hear about how depressed he was because he was smeared and his wife's career is ruined...

Hide and watch.
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