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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-13-06 10:53 PM
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Severe space storm headed for Earth
Edited on Wed Dec-13-06 10:59 PM by IndianaGreen
Severe space storm headed for Earth

Satellites and power grids could face potential interruptions

Space weather forecasters revised their predictions for storminess after a major solar flare erupted overnight, threatening damage to communication systems and power grids.

"We're looking for very strong, severe geomagnetic storming" to begin probably around midday Thursday, Joe Kunches, lead forecaster at the NOAA Space Environment Center, told Space.com Wednesday afternoon.

The storm is expected to generate aurorae or northern lights as far south as the northern United States on Thursday night. Astronauts aboard the international space station are not expected to be put at additional risk, Kunches said.

Radio communications, satellites and power grids could face potential interruptions or damage, however.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/16187534/
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TomInTib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-13-06 10:58 PM
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1. "storminess"?
Colbert has changed the language.
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Orrex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-13-06 11:03 PM
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2. A solar flare overnight? Preposterous!
The sun's only visible in the daytime, of course.
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-13-06 11:04 PM
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3. LMAO. Spoken like a fundie!
:-) And that's just how they think!
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chknltl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-13-06 11:17 PM
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5. Nopity.... Fundies would say:
This is proof that God is mad at America for doubting bush! :crazy:
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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-14-06 08:24 AM
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25. This is a faith-based solar storm, Orrex
You don't need to see it, you just need to believe in it.



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tavalon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-14-06 11:53 AM
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44. That's beautiful!
Thanks for the smile.
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Monkeyman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-13-06 11:15 PM
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4. Dam and I,m out of Tin Foil
Na Just kidding last time lost a network control
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Kelvin Mace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-13-06 11:19 PM
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6. Citizens are advised to avoid using transporters
Edited on Wed Dec-13-06 11:19 PM by Kelvin Mace
for the duration of the storm. Don't let this happen to you!

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Neshanic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-13-06 11:25 PM
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7. ROTFLMAO!
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Cheap_Trick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-13-06 11:52 PM
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9. Mirror Mirror!
My all time favorite TOS episode.
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Kelvin Mace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-13-06 11:57 PM
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12. Mine is that
and Doomsday Machine.
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Briar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-14-06 09:13 AM
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27. City on the Edge of Forever
forever!
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Frank Cannon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-14-06 09:42 AM
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35. As a big fan of Uncle Harlan...
that's mine too.

Also love the Menagerie and Let That Be Your Last Battlefield.

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Kelvin Mace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-14-06 10:56 AM
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42. And
Demon with a glass hand, I see.
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-14-06 12:57 AM
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16. I hope we get ESP powers from the storm and get to bag Sally Kellerman!
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muriel_volestrangler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-14-06 06:13 AM
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22. How come their clothes got through to the correct destination?
They repeated this a couple of weeks ago on the BBC, and I couldn't work out how good Kirk ended up in evil Kirk's clothes, and vice versa. Does the transporter have two circuits - one for people, and another for clothing, and only one went wrong? Or does it work on Douglas Adams's Finite Improbability principle, which could be used to transport a hostess's underwear one foot to the left at a good party?
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Kelvin Mace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-14-06 10:53 AM
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41. Blame it on the
Heisenberg compensator.
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Tesha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-14-06 07:29 AM
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23. Or you'll have to deal with *THIS* guy!
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Critters2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-13-06 11:26 PM
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8. Northern lights! Cool! nt
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-13-06 11:56 PM
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11. Hopefully we'll get to see them in the lower 48
one of the few things I have yet to see!
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daleo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-14-06 12:44 AM
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15. I hope you get a chance to see the aurora tomorrow, then
They are well worth the price of admission. It is one of the benefits of living in high latitudes, although clear nights in urban environments seem to be harder to come by all the time.
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AngryAmish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-14-06 01:28 AM
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19. What is the lag time?
I thought it was 18 hrs or so.

The northern lights are one of the wonders of this life.
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daleo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-14-06 11:53 AM
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45. It is something like that, I think
Supposedly, tonight could have some nice displays. I hope it stays clear.
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Ripley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-14-06 09:16 AM
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28. Lucky You!
For living up there where You can enjoy the show. I read somewhere that due to our changing climate and predictions of more severe solar storms that the auroras would be seen at lower and lower latitudes. I'm waiting.
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Patiod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-14-06 09:30 AM
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31. They've been as far south as Fredericksburg, VA
because the South took it as a sign from God that the Northern Lights came out the night of the first battle of Fredricksburg in 1862.

I've always wanted to see them, but it doesn't look likely tonight even if they happen this far south - I can't even see the top of the skyscraper next to ours because the fog is so bad....
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Ripley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-14-06 09:39 AM
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34. Well I'm a lot further South than VA..
You've got fog too? It's THICK here in the deep south this morning and lasting a long time. I guess it's just Mother Earth reflecting the USA's state of mind. IN A FOG!!
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Critters2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-14-06 12:23 PM
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48. I've only seen 'em once--
at the farthest south location I've ever lived. South Central Illinois. I was walking across the church cemetery late one winter night after turning up the heat at the church. There were what I thought were heavy-looking clouds to the north. Kind of green in color, but I thought they were catching the reflection off the snow or something. Then, all of a sudden, they turned the most beautiful magenta color, and I knew what they were.

I leaned against a headstone and watched 'em for like an hour. The colors, the shapes...breathtakingly beautiful.

The next day, it was all anyone in town could talk about. I'd really love to see 'em again!
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closeupready Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-15-06 11:36 PM
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59. a wild guess - that was 1984?
??
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customerserviceguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-14-06 10:25 AM
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38. Here's a website I use to check probability of them
http://www.gedds.alaska.edu/AuroraForecast

Of course, here in the cloudy Northwest, it's hit and miss, mostly miss!
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tavalon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-14-06 11:55 AM
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46. But Seattle will be getting hurricane force wind gusts this afternoon
Sweet! Not. I left the south and thought I had left hurricanes behind.
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customerserviceguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-15-06 11:02 AM
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52. I live just across the river from Portland, OR
but we got some nasty winds, too. My power stayed on, but that wasn't the case for a goodly number of my neighbors in my county.


Of course, nothing compares with the great "Columbus Day Storm of 1962". The Space Needle was brand-new, and nobody was really sure if it would withstand the wind received that day. A man I met a dozen years later was a cook in the restaurant on the Needle, and he described that day with terror.

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Dervill Crow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-15-06 02:33 PM
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56. Ah yes, I remember the Columbus Day storm!
I was at an Albertson's with my parents when the lights went out. We lost power at our place for about six hours last night but no damage.
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krispos42 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-16-06 12:08 AM
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60. Damn, even living in Minnesota I think I'm too far south n/t
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northofdenali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-14-06 01:39 AM
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20. My absolute first thought!!
The second is gassing up to head out away from the lights, and just enjoy.........
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Az_lefty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-13-06 11:52 PM
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10. will it be like the shit storm we've already been hit with?
:shrug:
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Naipes Donating Member (175 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-14-06 11:34 AM
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43. Shit storm? You mean a shiticane?
(Shiticane, term first used by Mr. Leahey in the Trailer Park Boys.)

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Algorem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-14-06 12:24 AM
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13. can't the Republicans do something about all this flamboyant flaming?
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AnneD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-14-06 03:22 PM
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51. Nothing...and I mean nothing
can stop the gay rays......
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jus_the_facts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-14-06 12:29 AM
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14. from spaceweather.com......


www.spaceweather.com

Solar Flares: Probabilities for a medium-sized (M-class) or a major (X-class) solar flare during the next 24/48 hours are tabulated below.
Updated at 2006 Dec 13 2245 UTC
FLARE 0-24 hr 24-48 hr
CLASS M 60 % 60 %
CLASS X 35 % 35 %

Geomagnetic Storms: Probabilities for significant disturbances in Earth's magnetic field are given for three activity levels: active, minor storm, severe storm
Updated at 2006 Dec 13 2245 UTC

Mid-latitudes 0-24 hr 24-48 hr
ACTIVE 10 % 10 %
MINOR 25 % 25 %
SEVERE 55 % 45 %

High latitudes 0-24 hr 24-48 hr
ACTIVE 15 % 15 %
MINOR 20 % 20 %
SEVERE 65 % 55 %

As a result of the blast, a radiation storm is underway. Based on the energy and number of solar protons streaming past Earth, NOAA ranks the storm as category S2: satellites may experience some glitches and reboots, but astronauts are in no danger.

The explosion hurled a coronal mass ejection toward Earth: movie. Sky watchers should be alert for auroras when it arrives on Dec. 14th. (Note: In the movie, the CME is barely visible through a snowstorm of streaks and speckles. That "snow" is caused by solar protons peppering SOHO's digital camera.)

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Bozita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-14-06 01:15 AM
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17. What about the folks in the shuttle and space station?
How are they receiving this news?
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AngryAmish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-14-06 01:27 AM
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18. They are hiding behind their water
They would not feel it but it just ups their chance for cancer
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WannaJumpMyScooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-14-06 01:57 AM
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21. They will get it in waves
and photons
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-14-06 08:11 AM
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24. spooky
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Ezlivin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-14-06 09:07 AM
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26. Bush doesn't think it will be that bad - says he needs more data
N/T

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progressoid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-14-06 09:22 AM
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29. No no no. This is just a bunch of scientifical mumbo jumbo they made up to save the manatees.
I heard it on Rush.
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Patiod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-14-06 09:24 AM
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30. Ok, this is bizarre
Last night, NOT ONE of the copiers at Kinkos was working correctly - they were either jamming, or screwing up the outputs.

I said to frustrated employee "Hey Pat - maybe you have poltergeists! Or maybe there's one of those solar storms going on!"

I'm sure it's a coincidence, but still..........................
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Tiberius Donating Member (798 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-15-06 02:21 PM
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54. wireless link
I'm in IT - at my work yesterday (around 10:30 AM eastern) the wireless link that we use to connect two of our buildings together simply fuzzed out for no reason. The thing has been operating for months through all weather and power outages and I still don't know the cause.
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Recursion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-14-06 09:31 AM
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32. Did Cheney or Rove go to the Sun recently?
I wouldn't put anything past these bastards....
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cascadiance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-14-06 10:47 AM
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39. Perhaps they did something that triggered Johnson's aneuryism yesterday...
Edited on Thu Dec-14-06 10:49 AM by calipendence
OK, that's all of my "conspiracy theories" for today! :)
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tabasco Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-14-06 09:39 AM
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33. Wouldn't it be weird if it wiped out everybody ...
except for me and Kim Bassinger? :crazy:
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Lone_Star_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-14-06 10:21 AM
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37. I had the same thought
Except it was me and Brad Pitt. :D
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BushOut06 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-14-06 10:03 AM
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36. This is the work of Islamo-fascist terrorists, no doubt
Everyone knows that Al Qaeda has a super-secret space station, capable of everything from controlling the weather, generating earthquakes, and producing solar storms! That ozone hole above Antarctica? Al Qaeda. Global warming? Yep, them too.
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-14-06 10:52 AM
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40. The Bozone layer will protect us
I hope.
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devilgrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-14-06 11:59 AM
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47. Maybe it's Klaatu coming to tell us to shape up or else.
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Ezlivin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-15-06 02:31 PM
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55. Klaatu barada nikto
I damn sure wish Klaatu would come.

We could use his help right about now....


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byronius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-14-06 02:33 PM
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49. Thanks for posting this. Cool. n/t
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Megahurtz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-14-06 03:14 PM
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50. Wow, that's Cool. n/t
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Lochloosa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-15-06 11:24 AM
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53. Pic of the Flare
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GoddessOfGuinness Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-15-06 04:02 PM
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57. Wow!
Thanks for the amazing pic!
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kitty1 Donating Member (772 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-15-06 11:19 PM
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58. So is it time to sacrifice a mayan or something n/t
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