Face it, I was 'cute,' Hil sez

[rodeodance]

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/story/464630p-390950c.html

Face it, I was 'cute,' Hil sez

Senator laughs at foe's surgery claim

BY JOE MAHONEY and DAVID SALTONSTALL
DAILY NEWS STAFF WRITERS

Sen. Hillary Clinton yesterday shot back at rival John Spencer's plastic surgery claim, saying yearbook photo was 'cute.'
Sen. Hillary Clinton doesn't really want to reduce her reelection campaign to a debate on her looks.

But if you must know, the former First Lady thinks she was a cutie in high school.

The odd discussion about her appearance came after her long-shot opponent, Republican John Spencer, suggested to the Daily News that Clinton had undergone "millions of dollars" in plastic surgery, and pointed out she used to be much less attractive.

"You ever see a picture of her back then? Whew," he told Daily News columnist Ben Smith during a plane ride to Rochester last Friday. "I don't know why Bill married her."

[Heidi]

1. I doubt Senator Clinton's appearance would be so much discussed

if she were male.

Republication John Spencer: "I don't know why Bill married her." <---- :puke:

[Tellurian]

58. Well, you'd think Spencer would be more worried about..

Fellow Congressional members "buggering" the help!

[lebkuchen]

2. Spencer isn't vying for the female vote, that's for sure.

Maybe sexist males will pull the GOP through the upcoming political conflagration. Who knows.

[Vidar]

3. Good reply. I've always found her attractive, not that I matter.

[sugapablo]

15. I've always found her quite unattractive...

...but it never once came into my figuring for her as a candidate.

Face it, we won't get a hot (female) US Senator for a long time. (Not that it matters.)

[badgerpup]

61. Quite a few of the male senators are two-bagger, coyote ugly...

...but you don't hear about them being attacked on it, at least by their peers and cronies.
:eyes:

[sugapablo]

64. Very true...

You never hear people talking about Dennis Hastert's wife going, "what was she thinking?" :)

[crispini]

69. ROFL!

Too, too true. :D

[freeplessinseattle]

4. what a juvenile, unprofessional low blow

why should I be surprised? yet I am, that just is so damn immature and completely irrelevent.

[llmart]

5. If we judged the current crop of Congresscritters.....

that are men by their looks then we'd be left with, oh, maybe 3 men in Congress.

And let's not even discuss all the ugliness in this administration. Old, fat, balding, white men run rampant there and on top of that they aren't even competent.

[Jackpine Radical]

33. Jeez, I dunno--if I were gay I think I'd have the hots for Dick Cheney.

There's just something about pallid blubber--I think that's why Ahab got so obsessed with that white whale...

[RC]

6. There are pictures around from when Hil & Bill were dating.

They were a good looking couple.

Anyway from CBS news

Did Hillary's Foe Say She Was Ugly?
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/10/23/politics/main2113939.shtml

[truthisfreedom]

7. nice response, Hillary.

absolute bullshit that she has to even deal with this.

[rodeodance]

9. yes, glad to see she is laughing it off (and laughing at spenser!)

[rasputin1952]

8. Has Spencer any mirrors anywhere near him....

He's not exactly some kind of Adonis...:eyes:

And just what would he say about Babs and Pickles...

[rock]

10. He does have mirrors but strangely

He casts no reflection!

[rasputin1952]

17. ROFLMAO

[bleedingheart]

11. What a complete and freaking misogynistic pig that freak is

really....what kind of person says that kind of shit?

Straight out of the king of pigs (rush) playbook.

[LostinVA]

12. HRC has NOT had "millions of dollars" worth of cosmetic surgery

I'd be surprised if she's had any.

Senator Clinton is a very attractive lady, NOT that that has anything to do with anything. Madeleine Albright isn't some sexy hoochie mama, and she was one of the SOSs EVER... and way more attractive than, say, Kissinger or Rummy.

Stupid misogynistic garbage.

[Carni]

23. Not that it matters but I don't think she has had any surgery either

The biggest improvement in HRC's appearance IMO is that her hair and eyebrows have been changed (in a traditional salon I am sure...although I don't think freepers and repukes are familiar with basic grooming practices so how would they know that looking better is possible without radical surgery)

She has also had some better instruction in how to dress in recent years.

Furthermore the repukes have a big nerve talking about ANYONE having plastic surgery given the fact that Laura Bush's face practically wraps around the back of her head these days!

[LostinVA]

26. Agreed it doesn't make a difference

But, you're right: she has a flattering hairstyle now, and good eyebrows. And, she dresses to flatter her figure. No signs of even Botox.

And yeah -- Laura (and Liddy Dole) has that "Joker" face that Carol Burnett and Mary Tyler Moore (among others) have gotten with a bad facelift... or one too many.

HRC also doesn't use too much makeup, which also makes her look very nice.

[AllieB]

34. If freepers and Repukes were familiar with basic grooming

they would have had that hair lasered from their knuckles a long time ago.

[Kali]

44. barkcoughhahahaha

:spray:

Please pass me a towel.

[Anakin Skywalker]

50. Ever Seen Bill O'Lielly's Hands?

The back of them are really hairy, exactly like an ape's. :)

[lumpy]

40. Spencer fails to realize that many women of

H. Clintons's generation were not into makeup, body image and elaborate hairdos. Young women and men of that educated generation were more interested in affairs outside their personal appearence. Affairs such as women's rights, war and peace, political integrity, and the desire for a better world and society.

[Raine]

63. That's right and

it wasn't just that some of the women weren't into make-up etc it was that that was the look then. I'm a bit younger than Hillary but came of age in the early 70's and the look was no make-up, long straight hair and "granny glasses".

[Dervill Crow]

76. If I remember right, we called it being "real."

Something far too many repukes don't know enough about to realize that it's an attribute, not a liability, to be themselves. Some of them are so phoney, and you know they have to lie to themselves. How else could they still be driving around with Bush/Cheney '04 bumper stickers? My mom always said that pretty is as pretty does. Hillary is not perfect, but she's not anywhere near like another former first lady I could mention who is black-hearted ugly through-and-through.

Geez-oh-lord, that dude has a lot of nerve. There's a birthday card with two shar-peis, one all wrinkly and the other with wrinkles smoothed out with the help of clothespins. He looks like the "before" shar-pei.

Some men are pigs. :rant:

I'm done now. Good night. :hi:

[liberal N proud]

13. These repukes are getting desperate

They can't talk about any real issues anywhere any campaign. All they can do is tear down the opponent.

[acmejack]

14. This is ridiculous, she treats it correctly.

They really are misogynists & I find it somewhat bemusing. Great response HRC.

[bronxiteforever]

16. 88 Americans come home in boxes this month and the GOPthinks its fun!

Let's have a great time laughing at the way people look-Shame falls on those bastards like rain

[HockeyMom]

18. Rick Lazio School of Political Debate

Spencer is a proud graduate.

[hughee99]

19. I didn't think she'd even respond to this...

but this is a great way to keep the story alive, and it only helps her.

[atommom]

20. That's pure BS. A man would never have to deal with that criticism.

Especially not the Republican men, who, let's face it, aren't that cute. :scared:

I'm glad she stood up to them. She should do it more often.

[endarkenment]

24. Actually Kerry had similar attacks

about his looks, as did Gore. The Bullshit Media System treats the irrelevant on par with real issues and the cabal exploits that equivocation to keep us uncertain, befuddled, confused, and off balanced.

[BruceMcF]

35. Is it just the media? I have seen touted ...

... Democratic presidential aspirants criticized in the blogosphere for being too good looking.

Of course, I had to wait until someone Obama was touted as a presidential candidate to make that plural ... before Obama, I only saw the critique levelled at Edwards. But that may be because I do not spend enough time online ... for all I know people have criticized Clark, Feingold and all the other people touted as running for the 2008 nomination as too good looking.

[atommom]

39. That's true ... I remember jokes about Botox, and constant

comments on what the candidates were wearing. (Clark wore a sweater? What a poser!) But I think that female candidates' looks are scrutinized even more closely.

[endarkenment]

41. Indeed they are.

I'm not denying that, but the tactic of using superficial attacks, of using inanity, as a tool is part of the whole bag of propaganda tricks the republicans have developed. "Gore Sighs". "Kerry looks French". "Dukakis in a tank". And with media control they get their barrage of inanity out there in the greek chorus of media talking point stenographers, competing with our attempts to discuss actual issues. They can't win on the issues. They can only divert and lie and confuse, and they are very good at it.

I forgot the classic superficial attack: "dean screams".

[Nevernose]

52. They were trying to make Kerry look "effeminate"

Not manly enough to be the president, i.e. he was too much like a woman. Just because the attacks were on a man doesn't mean they weren't misogynistic in origin. But that's just my opinion.

[atommom]

66. Bingo. I think that's behind a lot of the criticism of male Dems' appearance.

Often when they criticize Dem women, they imply that they're not womanly enough in some way. They have a very rigid view of gender roles ... and sadly, a lot of the public also seems to.

[endarkenment]

68. Won't disagree with that.

I think in fact it is all part of the psyops used to portray the Democratic Party as 'soft' as 'feminine' - as unable to be firm enough or lead us through these supposedly perilous times.

Gore sighs, Dean screams, Kerry looks 'french' and can't make up his mind, Pelosi is (oddly) 'scary' while Clinton is 'ugly'. My point was that these superficial personal attacks are not made exclusively against women, not that they aren't misogynist.

[bunkerbuster1]

80. Hell, they try to make ALL Dems seem effeminate

I'm constantly hearing the local Nazi radio jocks talking about Dems "not having a pair."

As if there were anything especially manly about following a douchebag like Bush like a some sheep.

[Ignacio Upton]

62. Well, Hastert gets called a fat POS here all the time

Although he deserves it because his appearance is emblematic of his greed.

[atommom]

67. Notice how much more accurate OUR insults are.

:)

[Carni]

21. Hate to tell the guy... he's no looker

He must be aiming to lose big--what an idiot!

[gauguin57]

22. Ugh. who cares. I'm sure the people of New York don't care.

... as long as Hillary is working hard for them as their senator. which, by all accounts, she is.

I do think Hillary is an attractive person, but what diff. does that make? ... now, back in college/law school, she obviously concentrated on her MIND rather than her makeup ... so ...

Bill Clinton has told the story of how he brought Hillary home to meet his own heavily made-up, big-haired mom, who did not approve of Hillary because she didn't doll herself up. She wanted him to date beauty queens.

Bill said to his mother, "Mama, I need to be with someone I can TALK to."

(And BTW, tell Hillary's desperate opponent to take a look at Laura Bush. Them draggin'-on-a-cig lines around her mouth don't just disappear by themselves. Or Liddy Dole -- who has had a complete face TRANSPLANT).

[yellowcanine]

25. Glass house....stones. If I were John Spencer, I wouldn't talk about my

opponent's looks. He looks like a reptile......

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/10/23/politics/main2113939.shtml

[Megahurtz]

36. And THAT'S the guy that made this Sexist-Pig comment?

He looks like he needs plasic surgery!

What a fucking idiot! Looks good on ya John! :sarcasm:

Asshole.

[senseandsensibility]

55. He's one wrinkled old prune

isn't he? Jeez...no wonder he's hung up on having "work" done. He looks like he's in dire need of some himself.

[tinfoilinfor2005]

27. I see her high school picture, but I don't see his...

If we have to read this BS in a newspaper, then it is only fair that the paper show both pictures. Better yet, let's see some Xrays and dental impressions, perhaps even a stool sample and body fluids...Surely these things can help us judge how intelligent and experienced the candidate is. What a bunch of hooey.

[gulfbreeze]

38. I can't quit laughing!!!!

:rofl:

[lumpy]

42. LOL, ...you reminded me that Bush's poop is

is collected and returned home with him when he is overseas so the content cannot be examined for anything that might disrupt our national security. No kidding.

[LynnTheDem]

28. Always the personal attacks from the thugs.

Always appealing to the lowest of the low in America. Their base.

[PurityOfEssence]

29. To primitives, women only matter if they're attractive

To be fair, this is not just a male problem; many people marginalize their own and the opposite sex if not deemed physically worthy.

For what it's worth, she was a cutie and still is.

What tiresome vulgarity.

[goclark]

30. I saw her speak in 04 and she was awesome

She is way far from "ugly."

She is very attractive and when she takes the stage, she owns it.

How can a Republican measure the looks of anyone on earth?

Hastdard, Cheney, Chimp, Poppy,CondiLIEsa, pull face Laura, Babs....?

They need to shut up about looks.

[stanwyck]

31. Oh, give the guy a break!

What else is he going to say? The "war" is going well? The economy is benefiting the middle-class? The Bushies didn't blatantly lie us into war? The GOP hasn't been a scandal-ridden disaster?
Geez. He's got nothing.
Except attacking his opponent's appearance.
(It's not like he doesn't have precedence. McCain called Chelsea the "first dog". And Rush has called Hillary a feminazi.)
This guy is just following GOP protocol.
And, hey, the guys who listen to hate-radio love this kind of stuff.

[LibDemAlways]

32. People who resemble the cryptkeeper have no

business commenting on the looks of others. Shut the fuck up, Spencer.

[davidinalameda]

37. her picture is cute

[xxqqqzme]

43. as someone who has witnessed

the results of any number of friends recovering from plastic surgery & seeing it's aftermath (well, I do live n So Cal)I feel safe in saying I don't see any evidence of surgery on her face, except maybe a little eye lid tuck.

Pelosi - yes
Boxer - yes
Feinstein - yes

steroid boy - at least 2 face lifts but I'm guessing multiple reconstructive surgeries as well.

[SharonAnn]

53. Steroid boy? Oh, I get it, Ahnold!

[Qutzupalotl]

45. She WAS cute.

Now she's HOT!!!

[MGD]

47. Fuckin A to that. nt

[MODemocrat]

46. Cute or not, Hillary's brilliant, John Spencer showed his ignorance

This is disgusting; he's trying to lie his way out of this, but I believe the reporter. Maybe he's not
being quoted ver batim, but it means the same thing. He hates Hillary and he's envious.

[Anakin Skywalker]

48. Typical Rethug, Always Making SHALLOW Observations!

This is one of the reasons I can never, ever side with these scumbags!

[Anakin Skywalker]

49. Hil, You Tell It Like It Is, Sista!

You WERE AND STILL ARE CUTE! Best thing about you, Hil, is that you aren't a Stepford Wife.

[Rex]

51. Another trifecta woman; someone get the GOPers a pack of Depends.

nt

[ecstatic]

54. Was he trying to hurt her feelings? While such tactics might work on Laura ...

a well accomplished woman like Hilary Clinton did not base her life and self esteem around her physical appearance. And as others have already pointed out, she was never 'ugly....' whatever that means :eyes:

[moc]

56. I bet Spencer couldn't have been a "Goldwater Girl"!

[Patchuli]

57. What a vapid man!!!

Meeeeew freakin' OWWW!

edited to make sense.

[w4rma]

59. I agree. She was cute.

[TroglodyteScholar]

72. Rowr..

She looks like a real girl to me. Right...she isn't a supermodel...but I appreciate a natural-looking woman over silicone any day.

Why did Bill marry her? My guess is she's pretty, smart, and kind. Just a stab in the dark, though.

[saracat]

60. The yearbook picture is very pretty!

She was cute! There is a lovely pix of her when she was a Goldwater girl too! .Her only problem later were the dorky glassed.And I sympathize.I had some too!

[krkaufman]

65. Ingenious way to keep the issue alive for another day or so.

Spencer's statement will cost him some votes.

[LiberalFighter]

70. Didn't find her yearbook foto unappealing... typical b/w

and better than average look.

Maybe someone should get a hold of the yearbook from his high school and have him rate the girls. Without the names. And then post it on the internet so all his former female classmates can see his response. Of course, make sure his wife is not in the pick if she attended same high school.

[GoddessOfGuinness]

74. She has a nice photo..She is cute.

He should cough up his yearbook photo if he really wants to make an issue of physical appearance.

What a pity he can't make an issue of the issues...

[LiberalFighter]

78. Wonder what his wife looked like back then.

[GoddessOfGuinness]

81. She was probably cute in high school

and got worn-looking after she married the prick. Since he dumped her, she probably looks great.

[pdrichards114]

71. Hilary's cute like Pugs are cute

[oasis]

75. Double l, as in Bill, chill, will,ill, hill etc.

[Phillycat]

79. Enjoy your short stay!

:hi:

[GoddessOfGuinness]

73. Spencer was so hot that he got 3 women to marry him.

And one of them was willing to have two of his kids while he was still married to wife #2. Family values, and all...
But who cares about that...at least he voted to ban gay marriage.

http://www.answers.com/topic/john-spencer-politician

[yorgatron]

77. nice legs too...

[Toucano]

82. What if she has had plastic surgery?

Does he think this means people shouldn't vote for her?

The last time I checked it was legal.

I've never heard anyone raise a concern that plastic surgery is unethical. I've only ever heard people criticized when they've had "too much work" - and we all can name a few.

Has Spencer been living in America for the last 10 years? Plastic surgery is right behind poker as the national past time! There are four or five television shows about nothing but cosmetic surgery.

Take all cosmetic surgery patients and divide them into D and R and I bet you it's about 30% D and 70% R.

Democrats generally can't financially afford to be as concerned about their appearance. We're too worried about trying to put food on the table and pay for the health care that keeps us alive.

[roseBudd]

83. Millions? Even Jacko hasn't spent millions n/t