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Khephra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-06-03 07:07 PM
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U.S. Eyed in Shevardnadze's Resignation
Edited on Sat Dec-06-03 07:07 PM by khephra
MOSCOW (AP) - Russia's foreign minister has accused the United States of playing a role in the resignation of Georgian leader Eduard Shevardnadze last month, according to an interview published Saturday in the Komsomolskaya Pravda newspaper.

``I think there are enough facts proving that what happened in those days wasn't spontaneous, it didn't arise suddenly,'' Foreign Minister Igor Ivanov was quoted as saying. ``Of course, there were preparations and the U.S. ambassador was involved, as Shevardnadze himself admitted.''

Ivanov also said that a fund set up by billionaire philanthropist George Soros to bolster civil society and the rule of law in the former Soviet Union played a role.

Shevardnadze had earlier accused Soros of funding the opposition, and he noted that U.S. Ambassador to Georgia, Richard Miles, was posted in Yugoslavia before the overthrow of Slobodan Milosevic. Shevardnadze had told The Associated Press that Miles might have encouraged Georgia's opposition. Senior Washington officials have denied any U.S. conspiracy to depose Shevardnadze.

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http://www.guardian.co.uk/worldlatest/story/0,1280,-3472428,00.html
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BuckeFushe Donating Member (797 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-06-03 07:16 PM
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1. Makes no sense that Soros would work with the Bushies
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Dirk39 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-06-03 09:18 PM
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4. Did you ever hear about the Florida votes in Northamerica?
I guess you did. The same Richard Baker was responsible for the eletions in Georgia to be free and fair. At the same time, Soros is pumping money into Georgia, sending people, who before did overthrow Milosovic, to Georgia, infiltrating people in Georgia, paying for busses to transport the "protestors" to the parliament. And the whole issue is mainly focused on the elections, not being fair and free. And both of them are supporting the same government now with a "president", who has spent most of his time during the last decades in the USA.
Go figure, please,
Hello from Germany,
Dirk
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Tinoire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-06-03 10:44 PM
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8. Yes it does... Carlyle
Carlyle
National Endowment for Democracy
CSIS

All the neo-con organizations... scratch behind them and Soros is right there.
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pinto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-06-03 07:22 PM
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2. Rumsfeld goes, as does Powell, and there's oil pipeline at stake
Doubt if we're going to make too much noise about democracy here, though that looks like what's happening. Our interests seem to be about a non-Arab supply of oil.

some background:

http://www.rferl.org/nca/features/1998/02/F.RU.980212133244.html
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Code_Name_D Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-06-03 10:25 PM
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6. Rummy practicly planeted the US flag there.
He ordered the Rushans to pull thire baseses. He ORDERED them.
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Dirk39 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-06-03 09:00 PM
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3. If I ever see the word "philanthropist" and George Soros in the same
Edited on Sat Dec-06-03 09:05 PM by Dirk39
sentence again, I propose Hitler for the Nobel Peace Price.
If this criminal garbage of mankind would have any kind of values at all, he would give the money back to the countries and people, he robbed and destroyed and shut his mouth forever.
He's just doing with politics what he did successfully with the global market before.
And besides, you don't need to have any kind of intelligence to see that the Bush-idiots with their oil-obsession don't get, what's really going on at all. The USA doesn't just need oil, it needs everything and "realists" like Soros know that. Just don't give me that velvet glove imperialism as an alternative to Bush. It kills you softly, but it's more effective in killing.
Hello from Germany,
Dirk
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sablefish Donating Member (59 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-06-03 09:24 PM
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5. billionaire philanthropist George Soros
No such thing .. He is for the NWO.. and is for the takeover of the ME by American soldiers for the sake of.. Satan .. I am sorry you guys... didn't want to burst your balloon of hope.. but reality is a bitch.. get used to it.
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Tinoire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-06-03 10:43 PM
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7. I totally agree... Sadly, Soros is buying the Democratic Party in the US
Aside from the millions he's giving to the Democratic Party (an investment in one particular candidate), he's also funded "Progressive Think Tanks" for the Democratic Party and I constantly see people here falling for this and thinking he's some sort of hero.

All his bets are hedged in the next election. We might as well just sell our souls and our children to Carlyle's profits right now.

How anyone can believe that Soros of Carlyle fame, who financed Bush's little Harken Energy deal, is any sort of a philantropist is beyond me (unless of course they don't know about him).

Grusse von California :hi:

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Pale_Rider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-07-03 12:10 AM
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9. Wasn't Shevardnadze the former Soviet ...
... ambassador to the US? Probably the IRI was deeply involved in this coup.
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regnaD kciN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-07-03 03:23 AM
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10. Nope...
He was even more important -- Foreign Minister under Gorbachev.
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