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DeepModem Mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-06-06 10:57 AM
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London Times: Reporter 'shot by American troops on way to hospital'
Edited on Fri Oct-06-06 11:32 AM by DeepModem Mom
Reporter 'shot by American troops on way to hospital'
By Times Online and PA

http://images.thetimes.co.uk/TGD/picture/0,,347856,00.jpg
Terry Lloyd

The ITN war correspondent, Terry Lloyd, was shot in the head by American soldiers after being wounded in a gunfight in southern Iraq, an inquest heard today.

A statement from an Iraqi witness, who claimed to have been present when Lloyd died on the road to Basra in March 2003, described how the journalist was injured but alive after his car was attacked by US soldiers on one of the first days of the war.

But he was then shot again on his way to hospital.

The account was part of the evidence given today by Nicholas Walshe, an ITN journalist appointed by the broadcaster to investigate the death of Lloyd, a 50-year-old correspondent, on March 22, 2003.

Mr Walshe told Oxfordshire's Assistant Deputy Coroner, Andrew Walker, that his source had seemed "very credible"....

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2-2392079,00.html
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-06-06 10:59 AM
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1. I'm not disputing the account, but does anyone say why?
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davidwparker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-06-06 11:07 AM
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5. Why would we shoot at the Italian journalist on her way out of Iraq?
They know too much.
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McKenzie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-06-06 11:16 AM
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6. yes, why indeed?
That's one story that seems to have fallen down the memory hole. There were posts about it on bellaciao a while ago.

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DeepModem Mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-06-06 11:24 AM
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8. A couple of notes: ITN is actually a British news service, and Terry...
Edited on Fri Oct-06-06 11:31 AM by DeepModem Mom
Lloyd was male. I can see how confusion could arise!
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tblue37 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-06-06 03:46 PM
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11. No, that post was comparing this incident to another VERY FAMOUS
incident, when a female Italian journalist who was kidnapped was fired on by Americans as she and an Italian intelligence agent (who had picked her up when she was released) drove to the airport. The intelligence agent died.

I am surprised you are not aware of that incident.
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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-07-06 04:30 AM
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15. It was discussed exhaustively (but still not enough!) here at D.U.
What a damnable crime, and nothing will ever come of it. There's no entity powerful enough to pursue the story.
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DeepModem Mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-07-06 12:34 PM
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24. I do know that incident. Sorry -- I was focused on this incident...
and didn't realize you were pointing out a similar shooting.
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-07-06 09:16 AM
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20. John Negroponte was in charge of Baghdad then.......
need I say more?

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UpInArms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-06-06 03:30 PM
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9. 10th March, 2003 PENTAGON THREATENS TO KILL INDEPENDENT REPORTERS IN IRA
http://www.gulufuture.com/news/kate_adie030310.htm

The Pentagon has threatened to fire on the satellite uplink positions of independent journalists in Iraq, according to veteran BBC war correspondent, Kate Adie. In an interview with Irish radio, Ms. Adie said that questioned about the consequences of such potentially fatal actions, a senior Pentagon officer had said: "Who cares.. ..They've been warned."

According to Ms. Adie, who twelve years ago covered the last Gulf War, the Pentagon attitude is: "entirely hostile to the the free spread of information."

"I am enormously pessimistic of the chance of decent on-the-spot reporting, as the war occurs," she told Irish national broadcaster, Tom McGurk on the RTE1 Radio "Sunday Show."

Ms. Adie made the startling revelations during a discussion of media freedom issues in the likely upcoming war in Iraq. She also warned that the Pentagon is vetting journalists according to their stance on the war, and intends to take control of US journalists' satellite equipment --in order to control access to the airwaves.

Another guest on the show, war author Phillip Knightley, reported that the Pentagon has also threatened they: "may find it necessary to bomb areas in which war correspondents are attempting to report from the Iraqi side."

...more...
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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-07-06 04:37 AM
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16. So glad to be able to read the link you posted.
Makes you wonder how many people are aware we DID hear about this a couple of years ago. It's so damned hideous, you'd think a lot of people would have been upset about it.

Grateful to get the chance to file this away for future reference.
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RaleighNCDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-06-06 10:59 AM
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2. Gotta be a mistake.
They must have thought he was an Arab journalist.
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theguvnorgc Donating Member (109 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-06-06 11:01 AM
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4. Or....
an international aid worker....
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Raster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-06-06 06:31 PM
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12. Nope. There is credible evidence that some US troops in Iraq have
targeted independent journalists. Foreign journalists, especially critical of US policies an tactics in Iraq, have again and again maintained they were SPECIFICALLY targeted by US troops.

I believe you forgot the :sarcasm: smiley.
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whistle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-06-06 11:01 AM
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3. Sounds like murder
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-06-06 11:16 AM
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7. Deleted sub-thread
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krispos42 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-06-06 03:35 PM
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10. Shot twice? Seperately? He knows too much
Musta seen Condi doing something that could be compromising!
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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-07-06 04:18 AM
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13. 'SHOT IN THE HEAD BY U.S':Witness claims Americans killed newsman Lloyd
7 October 2006
'SHOT IN THE HEAD BY U.S'
Witness claims Americans killed newsman Lloyd
By Don Mackay

ITN journalist Terry Lloyd was shot in the head by US troops as he was driven to safety after a gunfight during the Iraq war, it was claimed yesterday.

Fellow journalist Nicholas Walshe told an inquest that a number of Iraqis said they had witnessed the shooting.

Veteran reporter Lloyd, 50, died covering the conflict for ITV when his team were caught in the crossfire between US and Iraqi forces near Basra in southern Iraq on March 22, 2003.

Mr Walshe said one witness told him his minibus had been commandeered to pick up casualties from an Iraqi gunfight.

Lloyd appeared to have been shot in the shoulder and had to be lifted on to the vehicle. He said the witness then told him: "Terry was then shot in the head by US troops."
(snip/...)

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/tm_headline=-shot-in-the-head-by-u-s--&method=full&objectid=17888065&siteid=94762-name_page.html



~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~


Story written after he was killed in 2003:

Last Updated: Sunday, 23 March, 2003, 17:08 GMT

Profile: Terry Lloyd

Lloyd: A fearless correspondent
As an award-winning ITN correspondent Terry Lloyd, 50, was known to millions of viewers for his reports from war zones around the world.
The son of a Swansea-born policeman, Mr Lloyd started his journalism career at Raymonds news agency in Derby.

He joined ITN, who supply news for ITV, in 1983 as a reporter from Central Television.

Over the next two decades, he worked on a range of big stories, from the Los Angeles Olympic Games in 1984 and the World Cup in Mexico in 1986 - and became the longest-serving ITV News correspondent.

But it was for a series of reports from the world's trouble spots that brought him the most acclaim.
(snip/...)

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/2877767.stm


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Lasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-07-06 04:18 AM
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14. But why would they do such a thing?
What would their motive have been? Had he reported something the soldiers didn't like?
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spooked Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-07-06 05:52 AM
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17. Or had he JUST witnessed something they didn't want reported?
very strange
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Imagevision Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-07-06 10:07 AM
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21. Silencing another messenger, 4 times the amount of nam killed
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yurbud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-07-06 07:43 AM
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19. Frontline got footage of soldiers turning fire on them
It was pretty stunning and clear from the actions of the soldiers that they knew what they were doing since the reporters were standing in the open.

If you watch CONTROL ROOM, you can see an A-10 turn to fire on al Jazeera's headquarters.

One of the al Jazeera producers said he couldn't understand how that happened since they gave the US the coordinates of their headquarters, just like they had in Afghanistan, where they were also bombed.

Bush even wanted to bomb al Jazeera headquarters in Qatar, but Tony Blair helpfully told him that it was bad manners to bomb the soil of a key ally.

And a tank opened fire on the Palestine Hotel once where all the journalists stay, claiming they had been fired on by a sniper or something even though no one in the hotel heard or saw any fire coming from there.
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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-07-06 10:13 AM
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22. That's very cold behavior. Thanks for the info. on Frontline. Didn't know.
I hope at some point they can show that footage again. Americans need to know what has happened.

Hope our country can turn away from the filthy path Bush has followed throughout his pResidency. It has been strictly an evil one, and he has pushed many people into inhumane actions they probably don't feel any too proud of now.
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yurbud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-07-06 08:23 PM
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25. the episode is probably online. I taped it and showed it in class
they showed some of the "lapses in judgment" of the troops trying to restore order too. a couple of soldiers stopped a car with stuff tied on the roof and accused them of looting, so they had a tank run over the car and flatten it. Then the driver of the car said he drove it as a taxi, and didn't know how he was going to make money anymore.
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Vidar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-07-06 07:00 AM
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18. It's important not to leave witnesses to one's crimes.
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Doctor_J Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-07-06 10:35 AM
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23. Get our kids out of there....NOW
the war is lost. The only reason our best & brightest are still there is so Smirk can lie about how things are going until Nov 8.

All of this blood is on the Chimp's hands.
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