Aide Says He Reported Foley 2 Years Ago (!)

[jefferson_dem]

A three-bagger at least ---> :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn:

Aide Says He Reported Foley 2 Years Ago
Oct 04 4:03 PM US/Eastern

By DEVLIN BARRETT
Associated Press Writer

WASHINGTON

A senior congressional aide said Wednesday that he alerted House Speaker Dennis Hastert's office two years ago about worrisome conduct by former Rep. Mark Foley with teenage pages.

Kirk Fordham told The Associated Press that when he was told about Foley's inappropriate behavior toward pages, he had "more than one conversation with senior staff at the highest level of the House of Representatives asking them to intervene."

The conversations took place long before the e-mail scandal broke, Fordham said, and at least a year earlier than members of the House GOP leadership have acknowledged.

http://www.breitbart.com/news/2006/10/04/D8KI176G1.html

[DrDan]

1. oh boy

this is going to be hard to pin on Clinton . . .

[tinfoilinfor2005]

48. oh no no no

For many, the Clinton volume will just rise...wait and see:)

[Swede Atlanta]

60. Absolutely

The chorus will go something like this. Well when Clinton was acquitted in the impeachment trial it gave a signal to public officials that sexual misconduct was condoned. So see, it is all the Clenis' fault.

[thereismore]

66. didn't you get the memo? It was Clinton who made

oral sex and masturbation OK.

[last1standing]

72. How little you know.

The Clenis is Huge and Mighty! It controls all things in Washington. Beware the Clenis! :wow:

[sabra]

2. is this the same Kirk Fordham who just "resigned" ?

[yellowcanine]

11. Yup. Amazing how a good ass firing loosens one's lips.

Hopefully Fordham has some details on the 100 grand "donation" as well.

[Jack from Charlotte]

35. Hassert's defense of this will be easy............

"I didn't know of this. This guy may have told my staff, perhaps but not me. No one ever told me about this."

[yellowcanine]

39. Yes that will work until his staff goes into CYA mode. Once they realize

that Hastert is likely to be forced out as Speaker and might even lose his seat they will have nothing to lose and everything to gain by thinking about their own futures beyond working for Fat Denny. Then watch out. They will all be stepping on each other to be the first to blow the whistle on Fat Denny.

[populistdriven]

90. (pic)

[0007]

98. Hassert is DOA....not even junior can save Hassert's fat

fucking ass.

[Orrex]

54. That may be the dirtiest subject line I've read in weeks

And you're 100% correct, besides!

[Jack Rabbit]

3. You're busted, Mr. Speaker

Now resign.

[ShortnFiery]

4. OMG!

Toast!

[allisonthegreat]

12. Big time

Looks like a lot of &^%$ is fixing to go down...I reckon we better pay attention to what is going on behind the scenes.

[Cha]

42. That fat rat doesn't need

anymore butter!

[ashling]

47. If you look closely at that piece of toast

You can see Hastert's Ass being hung out to dry.
:rofl:

[iconoclastic cat]

5. Hey, repubs: How do y'all taste to one another? Like chicken(hawk)? nt

[gumby]

16. LOL

:rofl: good one!!

[LSparkle]

6. Wolfie seems CRESTFALLEN ... HAAAAAA!!!

[nascar55]

7. here you go

#5 :popcorn:

[qanda]

20. I'll take a box of that

Thank you very much

:popcorn:

[Xipe Totec]

8. Here's another link to the article

http://www.abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStory?id=2512231

[BootinUp]

9. Fordham, not too happy being thrown under bus, lol. n/t

[mikeytherat]

14. They can't throw anyone under the bus, because the wheels have come off!

The bodies just keep bouncing off the sides of the bus 'cuz they can't get underneath!

And yet, though wheeless and driverless, the bus just keeps on rollin'

mikey_the_rat

[johnaries]

77. The wheels on the bus go round and round, round and - OOPS!

:roflmao:

[mom cat]

84. Looks like Fordham is the one driving the bus now!

[BootinUp]

86. Resilient bastard isn't he. :-)

[NVMojo]

10. OMG! At least a 3-bagger!!!

[DoYouEverWonder]

13. I don't think my hips

can take anymore.

As soon as this is over, I am going on a diet.

[CountAllVotes]

29. my approach ...

I've been eating bags of low-fat organic cheese puffs. Luckily they were on sale last week and I stocked up on them. Had I known this was coming, I would have bought several cases of them! :D


:dem: :kick:

[Supersedeas]

15. Katherine Harris...paging Katherine Harris--who was withholding info

[Singular73]

17. Tomorrow's headling -- complete.

This just gets worse and worse for the Thuglicans.

[swimboy]

18. He's singing!

:rofl:

[mikeytherat]

19. "I'm gonna stay up all night singing songs about corruption

in a fine, piercing tenor."

mikey_the_rat

[swimboy]

22. The pear-shaped tone

Sing, sweet nightingale, sing!

[mikeytherat]

31. I thought I heard the Fat Lady warming up,

but I wasn't sure how well Denny Hastert could sing with that knife in his back.

Time for the understudy to get prepared?

mikey_the_rat

[Name removed]

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[Tarheel_Dem]

40. you guys all sound the same......

the party of "personal responsibility" my ass. you wanna talk about a 30 yr. old story to make excuses for what the house leadership has covered up for 11 years (read washington post). where's the concern for the kids involved? this is not just political as the rightwing would like to have us believe, this is about the lives of young people, who were preyed upon by one of your own, and i think that we're gonna learn that there were payoffs and bribes involved, and dumping (giving to charity) the monies at this point won't work.

i'm convinced that this story is gonna turn out to be more than just about a pedophile, but it's gonna turn the house leadership (enablers) on its head, and it's already happening. Get used to it. When you hold yourself out to morally superior to the rest of us, you better make damned sure your own house isn't made of glass.

btw, welcome to DU....i think.

[Cha]

43. Too late ..the poster

died.

That was good advice you gave, though.

[Tarheel_Dem]

46. you're right...i wasn't quick enough...

i am so sick of the "values voters" trying to excuse this behavior because it's been done before? it's just sickening.

[Cha]

49. Especially when their "value" guys just

took a dumpster dive!

[PurpleChez]

99. Especially when the same behavior on the part of a Democrat

would have them calling for his summary execution

[saigon68]

100. I couldn't even say Au Revoir to him/her

Wow they are quick on the trigger today

[wizstars]

67. George Allen is giving campaign money from Foley....

to charity. anybody wanna bet it's not the NAACP?:dem:

[Tarheel_Dem]

70. LOL....

b'nai brith (sp) maybe? :rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:

[Deep13]

23. Wow, the family values crowd.

When a D has a sex scandal it is just plain adultery. When the Rs do it is freaky shit, minors, hookers, internet porn, dominatrixes. Bizz-ahh.

[jilln]

24. Congress and college football...

Are those the only places where this kind of crime gets handled internally? Didn't anyone think to call the police directly??

[LostinVA]

25. You forgot college basketball and Ivy League frats

[Stardust]

97. And The Church.//

[tandot]

26. Hastert still can claim that HE didn't know...Fordham alerted "only" his

office and senior staff - not him directly. He can claim that his staff never told him and fire them, too.

However, if he fires his senior staff, they might not be willing to take that BS and rat him out.

[wryter2000]

27. Sing like a birdie, Fordham

I've been waiting for one of their scapegoats to refuse to take the fall.

:beer: :popcorn:

[Aviation Pro]

28. Buh-Buh....

...Fat Ass Hastert. Don't let the door hit ya where the Good Lord split ya. I'm going to go out on a limb and state that control of the House and Senate are coming back to the Democrats in November in a big way.

[Botany]

30. Songbird

Denny is not going to last to the weekend if this is true.


Ever notice how Denny "Fat Bastard" doesn't walk but seems
to kinda of shuffle?

[LonelyLRLiberal]

45. Oh, I want him to hold out for at least another ten days B4 resigning ....

Keep a nice juicy story going, one that John Q. can understand, closer to the election. Sex sells, you know. Plus, watching the food fight among the Pukes is so much fun!

[catlawyer]

32. Now the war of the words and issuances of denials continues ...

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStory?id=2527827

"Did not!"
"Did so!
"Did not!"
"Did so!"

LOL

(edited link to show more recent report with breaking news banner)

[mikeytherat]

33. Ah, the beauty of the circular firing squad.

mikey_the_rat

[calimary]

44. But in the meantime, we have to make sure that our people are ALL

abso-fuckin'-lutely IMMACULATE. Because if somebody on our side of the aisle pulls ANY sort of fast-n-loose one, the bad guys will be ALL OVER US, and any gains we made at their expense will be IMMEDIATELY drowned out. In fact, their echo chamber will make sure the next MANY news cycles will be all over our single faux-pas. They'll make MUCH more of it than is deserved, in order to drown out the Foley-etc. stuff, and bolster their own arguments that it isn't so bad because the other guys are crooks, too.

It's a very good point. I hope Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid are leaning on everybody HARD to make sure their noses are clean. Remember, back in 1994, it was the banking scandal and other fuck-ups and assorted misbehavior that OUR guys were guilty of. Which made it all the easier for nasty newty and friends to take the House of Reps away from us. I don't want to be exiled out in the wilderness for ANOTHER 12 years. Our guys and gals would do VERY well to keep their own noses clean as whistles. We HAVE TO BE above reproach, ESPECIALLY now. We want the OTHER side dispirited, panicked, and in disarray. NOT ourselves. Besides, it makes it a lot easier to throw stones when you know there won't be any flying back at you, and nobody can accuse you (with any credibility) of living in a nice big glass house. One fuck-up is all it'd take to fuck us all.

[Beetwasher]

56. The Evolution Of The Democratic Party

I have a theory that the Dem party is naturally less corrupt, because Repubs would have used it already. All the really sleazy Dems either became Repubs or have already been tossed (in general). What you're left with is what hasn't been winnowed out already. They're cleaner by necessity (generally speaking of course).

[calimary]

50. Good update. And I love the reference to the "mushrooming

scandal."

Looks like that's the only "mushrooming" anything to happen to these people. Certainly there aren't any smoking guns leading to contradicta's fabled mushroom clouds.

[Catherine Vincent]

34. That's it. Hastert's gone!

[CoffeeCat]

36. Oh man...this is a three-bagger, and also...

...we're gonna need several boxes of Junior Mints, some Skittles
and a large Sprite!

Holy buckets.

[Botany]

37. o.k.

:party:

[NoQuarter]

57. Got any Good 'n Plenty?

[Botany]

61. o.k.

[NoQuarter]

96. This is why I LOVE DU!

One Stop Shopping.

[ejbr]

38. Can someone place a fork in Hastert?

I think he's done.

[robertpaulsen]

41. There is a cancer on the House...and it is GROWING!

Hmm...would that make Hastert a LIAR?!

Nahh... :sarcasm:

Hastert Denies Knowledge Of Foley's 2003 E-Mails to Pages

By ANDREW TAYLOR - Associated Press
October 3, 2006

WASHINGTON — The House speaker, Rep. Dennis Hastert, said yesterday that no Republican leaders saw lurid Internet exchanges between former Rep. Mark Foley and underage high-school pages and that he would have demanded his ouster if he'd known about them.

"As a parent and speaker of the House, I am disgusted," Mr. Hastert, a Republican of Illinois, told reporters after holding a meeting at the Capitol in the wake of the disclosure of the e-mails in 2003 to a page, which led to Mr. Foley's resignation last Friday. The page's home state was not immediately cited.

The speaker did not mention e-mail exchanges between Mr. Foley, a Florida Republican, and another page, from Louisiana, in 2005. Other House Republicans said they told Mr. Hastert about those exchanges months ago. Mr. Hastert has not disputed those accounts.

"Congressman Foley duped a lot of people," Mr. Hastert said. "I've know him for all the years he has worked in this House, and he deceived me, too."

http://www.nysun.com/article/40769

So if Fordham told Hastert in 2004, what else could it have been in reference to, if not this?

[lisa58]

51. cnn just reported that it was actually three years ago n/t

[flying_wahini]

52. Hastert can quit now or just wait a few more days, by then

we will be hearing from the other pages.
I expect he is getting lots of heat today, he is on the
carpet trying to save his job RIGHT NOW as we speak
:nopity: :cry:

[janetle]

53. What is the difference between predator and pedophile?

There must be a different definition for each with obvious overlap?? Serial rapists would be considered sexual predators. Power over another person is clearly involved. Pedophiles involve children but then to me 16 year olds are children. Is Foley both?

[Mr_Spock]

55. Ah, Jesus, time to bust open another bag of popcorn.

This is getting to be quite the story, isn't it?

:D

[brentspeak]

58. B-U-S-T-E-D

[formercia]

59. Pop Goes the Weasel

Nothing like a guy with an exaggerated sense of self-worth.

[rodeodance]

62. AP says 3* years ago: Aide says he reported Foley 3 years ago

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20061004/ap_on_go_co/congress_pages;_ylt=AuGNGsz.vgoy4WFMrkyzCZes0NUE;_ylu=X3oDMTA2Z2szazkxBHNlYwN0bQ--

Aide says he reported Foley 3 years ago

By DEVLIN BARRETT, Associated Press Writer 12 minutes ago

WASHINGTON - A senior congressional aide said Wednesday he told House Speaker
Dennis Hastert's office about worrisome conduct by Rep. Mark Foley (news, bio, voting record) toward teenage pages more than three years ago, long before officials have acknowledged becoming aware of the issue.


Kirk Fordham made his comments to The Associated Press in an interview as a Kentucky Republican canceled a campaign fundraising event with Hastert. Rep. Ron Lewis (news, bio, voting record) said he wants to know the facts behind a scandal that has roiled Republicans since last week.

"I'm taking the speaker's words at face value," Lewis said in an interview. "I have no reason to doubt him. But until this is cleared up, I want to know the facts.

"If anyone in our leadership has done anything wrong, then I will be the first in line to condemn it."

[usregimechange]

63. Wow! Beyond words...

[rodeodance]

64. Fordham resigned Wednesday as chief of staff to Rep. Thomas Reynolds

Fordham said he was serving as Foley's chief of staff when he was told about the lawmaker's inappropriate behavior toward pages more than three years ago. He said he had "more than one conversation with senior staff at the highest level of the House of Representatives asking them to intervene" at the time.

Fordham declined to identify the officials in Hastert's office he spoke with.

Two members of the GOP leadership say they told Hastert this past spring they had heard Foley had sent overly friendly e-mails to a page. Hastert said over the weekend he does not recall those conversations, but has not disputed they took place.

Fordham resigned Wednesday as chief of staff to Rep. Thomas Reynolds (news, bio, voting record), R-N.Y., and said: "I never attempted to prevent any inquiries or investigation."

[rodeodance]

65. "Rather than trying to shift the blame on me,....."

.....He said he would fully disclose to the
FBI and the House ethics committee "any and all meetings and phone calls" regarding Foley's behavior that he had with senior staffers in the House leadership.

Fordham said one staffer he spoke with remains employed by a senior House Republican leader, but he declined to identify the person.

"Rather than trying to shift the blame on me, those who are employed by these House leaders should acknowledge what they know about their action or inaction in response to the information they knew about Mr. Foley prior to 2005," Fordham said.

At the time of his resignation, Fordham was serving as chief of staff for Reynolds, a member of the GOP leadership who has struggled to avoid political damage in the scandal's fallout.

[tedzbear]

69. Could this get any better???????

One topper after another! I hope and pray this means the House majority will turn Democrat in November. The Senate is too much to hope for (but I still am hoping).

Let the impeachment begin...

:bounce:

[whistle]

68. C O V E R U P ! ! !

[Rainscents]

71. I Love "Days Of Our Lives"... so juicy!

[Pithy Cherub]

73. Let's be Clear - It's All My Children!

On steroids!

:popcorn::popcorn::popcorn:

[Guaranteed]

74. But Hastert thought it was just "an historical" report...HA! nt

[katty]

75. CNN reported 3 years ago-a year added?

[patrick t. cakes]

76. impeachment here we come.

getting closer...:woohoo:

[chill_wind]

78. As far back as 2003-- And now he's naming names! Palmer.

"Oct. 4, 2006 — Despite claims by senior congressional aide Kirk Fordham that he notified House Speaker Dennis Hastert's office more than two years ago about possible inappropriate contact between former Rep. Mark Foley, R-Fla., and underage congressional pages, the Speaker's office is insisting it did nothing wrong in its handling of the situation.

"That never happened," Hastert spokesman Ron Bonjean told ABC News about the report.

But Fordham — a former chief of staff to Foley, who resigned as chief of staff to another member of the GOP leadership, Rep. Tom Reynolds, R-N.Y. — said that as far back as 2003, Hastert chief of staff Scott Palmer had been told that Foley was too friendly with pages. According to Fordham, Palmer spoke to Foley about the matter."

more: http://abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=2527764&page=1

[chill_wind]

79. Sniffle. Fordham worried about the the FOLEY family well-being.

"I reached out to the Foley family, as any good friend would, because I was worried about their emotional well-being."

(per CNN, tried to keep the most explicit IM's from the press. To protect the Foley family, he infers). Not a freaking word about the well-being of the targeted kids' and their families amidst his rationale.

Even when Republicans know every word they utter on this is going to be magnified a million times, the real priorities come out, and they aren't pretty.

[chill_wind]

81. Scott Palmer = Hastert chief of staff nt

[civildisoBDence]

80. A diagram of the next five weeks

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Good bye!

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And good riddance you effin' asshole

Fascists

Newsprism

[Name removed]

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[WindRavenX]

83. So your point is...

...it's ok he was harassing pages because he was 18? :think:

[Tarheel_Dem]

88. well, that's okay then....

:eyes:

you guys have been all over the news trying to equate this with clinton/lewinski. and, according to you guys, it doesn't seem to matter that monica was a consenting adult, but that bill clinton was in a "position of power", so in those circumstances your argument doesn't hold water.

more importantly, you guys for too long have held yourselves out to be morally superior to the rest of us, and the hypocrisy is just stifling. none of you is concerned about the welfare of the young men involved, just how this damages you politically?

[Zambero]

85. Pack yer bags, Ass-Dirt!

Make room for the next crook and/or liar!

[Imagevision]

87. Hastert's going, no doubt about it, - Reynold's will follow, for openers..

[crossroads]

89. This Sizzling Hog Will Be Either Bacon/Toast!

With all the heat this pig is taking - looks like he will be sweating down to bacon or toast!

[think4yourself]

91. Hey uh...

More Butter, more salt!

:popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn:



Hey Karl, I gots your October Surprise© right here, bitch.

[Lugnut]

92. Maybe four....

K&R

:popcorn:

[washinfo89]

93. Mark Foley Accuser and Hastart Knew years ago

Look what I found creeping around Reddit, http://www.dilby.com/mark-foley-accusers-name-aim.htm

[patrick t. cakes]

94. had dems. known

about this 2 years ago surly they would have dropped it before the '04 elections.
maybe they didnt know. hence this is a purly repube problem.

[Judi Lynn]

95. LA Times: Onetime Loyal Aide Now Stands to Undermine GOP

Onetime Loyal Aide Now Stands to Undermine GOP
Former staffer Kirk Fordham says he'll tell all to the FBI in the Foley case, poising him to take on the leadership he once served.
By Peter Wallsten and Tom Hamburger, Times Staff Writers
October 5, 2006

WASHINGTON — For 20 years, Kirk Fordham was a loyal staffer and strategist — rising from his early days as a Capitol Hill intern to the coveted post of chief of staff to a senior congressman.

But Wednesday, amid a scandal that has rattled Capitol Hill and ended the political career of Fordham's longtime boss, former Rep. Mark Foley (R-Fla.), the 39-year-old aide emerged as a central player in a saga that could bring down the same House GOP leadership that he worked so tirelessly to serve.
(snip)

As Foley began campaigning across the state, a South Florida weekly newspaper, the Broward-Palm Beach New Times, called on him to come out of the closet. It was Fordham who tried to persuade mainstream state political reporters to steer clear of the story, even as the White House moved aggressively to find a different candidate. When the Foley campaign accused Democratic activists of spreading the story, it was Fordham who singled out the "liberal gay press" for leading the charge, according to the South Florida Sun-Sentinel.

It was around that time that, based on Fordham's assertions this week, his loyalty was tested. Fordham now says he noticed "inappropriate behavior" by his boss related to the House page program and reported it to Hastert's office.
(snip/...)

http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-fordham5oct05,1,4878747.story?coll=la-headlines-nation