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RamboLiberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-04-06 02:23 PM Original message |
U.S. pilots may face manslaughter charge in Brazil crash(Transponder off?) |
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Coventina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-04-06 02:30 PM Response to Original message |
1. Wow. What a story. Read the NYT article. Just amazing. |
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NOLADEM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-04-06 02:31 PM Response to Original message |
2. Is there any above board reason to turn off your transponder |
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Aviation Pro (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-04-06 02:52 PM Response to Reply #2 |
6. Not at FL370.... |
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karlrschneider (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-04-06 02:57 PM Response to Reply #6 |
10. I don't fly in Brazil so don't know, do they have airspace classes |
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NOLADEM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-04-06 03:08 PM Response to Reply #6 |
14. Thanks for the info |
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Aviation Pro (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-04-06 03:14 PM Response to Reply #14 |
16. I've had transponders that were sending intermittent signals.... |
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karlrschneider (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-04-06 03:15 PM Response to Reply #14 |
17. Malfunctioning is very rare but not unheard of. |
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The Velveteen Ocelot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-04-06 06:30 PM Response to Reply #6 |
28. Or they could have set the TCAS II to TA instead of RA, |
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Aviation Pro (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-04-06 06:56 PM Response to Reply #28 |
29. Or it could be that one of the aircraft misset.... |
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Blue_Tires (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-04-06 07:05 PM Response to Reply #6 |
30. thanks for your insights |
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jseankil (604 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-04-06 02:35 PM Response to Original message |
3. would you see the other plane coming at you from miles away? |
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RamboLiberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-04-06 02:41 PM Response to Reply #3 |
4. Till one of our DU pilots chimes in |
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Coventina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-04-06 02:52 PM Response to Reply #3 |
7. The NYT article talks about that. At the speed the planes were moving it |
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Aviation Pro (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-04-06 02:54 PM Response to Reply #3 |
9. Most mid-air collisions.... |
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karlrschneider (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-04-06 03:09 PM Response to Reply #3 |
15. At those speeds, if you saw the other plane half a mile away, you |
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wakeme2008 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-04-06 02:44 PM Response to Original message |
5. I am guessing bugs in a new plane |
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RamboLiberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-04-06 02:53 PM Response to Reply #5 |
8. If so they need to go after the manufacturer |
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wakeme2008 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-04-06 03:23 PM Response to Reply #8 |
20. No way for the pilot to know it was not working unless the ATC |
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Aviation Pro (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-04-06 03:00 PM Response to Reply #5 |
12. ATC would know whether the transponder is working or not.... |
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wakeme2008 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-04-06 03:22 PM Response to Reply #12 |
19. Right but if the ATC did not report a problem to the pilots |
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karlrschneider (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-04-06 03:46 PM Response to Reply #19 |
23. True but it's kind of unbelievable to me that wouldn't have been |
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Robbien (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-04-06 03:00 PM Response to Original message |
11. With all these rich elites getting their own jets |
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Aviation Pro (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-04-06 03:06 PM Response to Reply #11 |
13. The safety record in the U.S. is enviable..... |
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karlrschneider (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-04-06 03:19 PM Response to Reply #11 |
18. Not really...away from airports. I've made hundreds of flights without |
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fudge stripe cookays (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-04-06 03:35 PM Response to Original message |
21. I heard something the other day... |
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karlrschneider (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-04-06 03:41 PM Response to Reply #21 |
22. You have the right idea, sort of. For courses between 0 and 179 |
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fudge stripe cookays (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-04-06 04:00 PM Response to Reply #22 |
24. That's it. |
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karlrschneider (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-04-06 04:15 PM Response to Reply #24 |
25. No problemo! By the way, that's not an 'absolute' rule. |
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pinniped (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-04-06 05:33 PM Response to Original message |
26. One of the passengers aboard the executive jet was in the cockpit and.... |
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UpInArms (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-04-06 06:06 PM Response to Original message |
27. the name Lepore reminds me of Teresa Lepore aka Madame Butterfly |
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