Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

CREW Calls For House To Appoint Outside Counsel To Investigate Foley

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » Latest Breaking News Donate to DU
 
cal04 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-30-06 03:39 PM
Original message
CREW Calls For House To Appoint Outside Counsel To Investigate Foley
CREW Calls For House To Appoint Outside Counsel To Investigate Foley Page Scandal

Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington (CREW) today called upon the House of Representatives to appoint an outside counsel to investigate the House leadership's role in covering up Rep. Mark Foley's (R-FL) inappropriate email exchanges with a sixteen-year-old former House page.

Several members of the Republican leadership have now admitted to knowing for nearly a year that Rep. Foley engaged in email exchanges with a sixteen-year-old former House page. These members, including Majority Leader John Boehner (R-OH) and Reps. Rodney Alexander (R-LA), John Shimkus (R-IL) and Tom Reynolds (R-NY) have all claimed that they failed to take action because the boy's parents did not want to pursue the matter. The decision not to investigate further left other House pages unprotected and vulnerable to a potential sexual predator.

Speaker of the House Dennis Hastert's (R-IL) decision to have Rep. Shimkus review the page system is particularly ludicrous, given that it was Rep. Shimkus who, despite having been made aware that the boy and his parents were concerned about Rep. Foley's emails, readily accepted Rep. Foley's explanation that he was merely mentoring the boy. Rep. Shimkus is the chairman of the House page board.


(snip)
Melanie Sloan, CREW's executive director, said today, "It is horrifying to learn that some members of Congress were more concerned with covering up a potentially embarrassing situation than with protecting the teenage pages." Sloan continued, "the American people, and particularly the parents of other pages, have a right to know if congressional leaders put politics above the safety of children."

http://releases.usnewswire.com/GetRelease.asp?id=73542
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-30-06 03:42 PM
Response to Original message
1. If a 16 yr old's parents say "drop it", does that make it legal?
If a domestic violence victim says "drop it", they still, now, most places, go after the perpetrator.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-30-06 03:44 PM
Response to Reply #1
2. And WHY would the parent say to drop it?
Surely the fear of publicity wouldn't stop a parent for looking out for the welfare of their child? Has there been some intimidation here? A payoff?

:headbang:
rocknation
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-30-06 03:54 PM
Response to Reply #2
5. embarassment?
Like some people who get raped or robbed or even in a car accident want to drop it, to have it all go away and be like it was before. Not saying this is right, but it happens. Could also be intimidation or a payoff.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
NOLADEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-30-06 05:09 PM
Response to Reply #5
11. Embarrassment indeed
Did you read the chat logs? The child was pretty participatory, saying sexually explicit stuff.

Very embarrassing to the child and family. There is no sexual assault alleged, so the harm to the child was probably limited, so they decided the cost to go public with this would have been great. Plus, he is a Republican, and their son was a page for a Louisiana Republican, so the family is undoubtedly a Republican contributor/booster.

There was no benefit to the family available by going public. Maybe Foley pulled a few strings to help the family on some unnamed matters, who knows.

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-30-06 06:55 PM
Response to Reply #2
13. I vote blind, rabid Christofascism. They don't CARE about their son.
They care about THEIR PARTY. They care about their own continuing power and money.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-30-06 03:45 PM
Response to Reply #1
3. Right and CREW also posted Sexually Explicit IMs to ANOTHER
underage male pledge during 2003!

This is a pattern, an obsession with Foley. :(
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-30-06 04:21 PM
Response to Reply #3
9. Maybe there's more. Is anybody looking?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-30-06 03:45 PM
Response to Reply #1
4. No, it doesn't make it legal. If your kid is raped, you don't have an
option of declining prosecution. A crime was committed (solicitation of a minor over these here internets) and the GOP legislators in Washington COVERED IT UP.

And the perp stood behind the Monkey as he signed anti-mess with kids legislation! The IRONY!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-30-06 06:54 PM
Response to Reply #1
12. A parent that says "drop it" in these circumstances is just about as bad
and just about as much of a CRIMINAL as the perpetrator.

You don't allow abuse of your child to go unaddressed. That's just WRONG. I'm not even a parent and I have this much common sense.

They sold their son down the road to protect their fascist overlords.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-30-06 08:31 PM
Response to Reply #12
16. Indeed.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
leQ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-30-06 03:57 PM
Response to Original message
6. one can only hope this blows up in their faces bigtime (nt)
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Robbien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-30-06 04:01 PM
Response to Original message
7. What power does this call for an outside investigation have?
CREW (a great organization IMHO) releases a news release calling for a House outside counsel. Great. Good idea.

But what does that mean. Does anyone in Congress have to respond to the request? Do they even know the request is out there?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
partylessinOhio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-30-06 04:15 PM
Response to Original message
8. The page himself didn't drop it for he released the emails and the chat
logs that ABC published. The entire matter needs to be investigated for no one knows what the parents really said or did.

Majority Leader John Boehner (R-OH) is another crook bringing disgrace to Ohio. With his patent leather hair and fake-tan I have to wonder if he and the others who kept this secret could also be involved in similar activities.

I want to see a special prosecutor appointed pronto.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-30-06 05:01 PM
Response to Reply #8
10. We don't need all that. We have torture.
I assure you, all these lengthy, expensive investigations can be dispensed with now. A few sessions with an accomplished torturer...someone who got all A's at the School of the Americas....and we'll know all there is to know about the sex lives of Republican congressmen.

We don't need evidence. We have torture.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-30-06 06:58 PM
Response to Reply #10
14. Hey, works for me. Waterboard every last one of the Repukes in
Congress. Oh, and hook up electrodes to their genitals, too.

Wait. That one might not be considered punishment.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
daleo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-30-06 07:03 PM
Response to Original message
15. Perhaps they should be charged with aiding and abbetting?
It seems to me that most citizens would be in a heap of trouble if they knew about an internet predator, but didn't inform the police.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view 
this author's profile Click to add 
this author to your buddy list Click to add 
this author to your Ignore list Wed Apr 24th 2024, 10:06 AM
Response to Original message
Advertisements [?]
 Top

Home » Discuss » Latest Breaking News Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC