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RamboLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-29-06 04:42 PM
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Another teammate confirms Allen used "N-word" (Salon 9/29)
Edited on Fri Sep-29-06 04:43 PM by RamboLiberal
http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2006/09/29/allen_sabornie/?source=whitelist

A former football teammate of Sen. George Allen decided Friday to go on the record with recollections of the Virginia Republican's alleged racist behavior during college.

Edward J. Sabornie, a special education professor at North Carolina State University, had previously spoken to Salon about Allen's behavior on the condition of anonymity, because he feared retribution from the Allen campaign. In a Salon story on Sunday, Sabornie was quoted as a "teammate" who remembered Allen using the word "nigger" to describe blacks. "It was so common with George when he was among his white friends. This is the terminology he used," Sabornie said in that article.

Sabornie said he has now decided to let his name be known because he was upset by how Allen responded this week to the Salon story. "What George said on Monday really kind of inflamed me -- that it was 'ludicrously false' that he ever used the N-word," Sabornie told Salon. "I don't know how George can look himself in the mirror after saying that."

Since Sunday, four other named acquaintances of Allen have told news organizations that they witnessed Allen using a racial epithet or demonstrating racist behavior. Allen, and his campaign staff, have denied each of the claims.

Sabornie, a registered independent who considers himself a liberal Democrat, was first contacted by Salon on Sept. 17. In the past, Sabornie said he has shown support for Allen, even writing him a congratulatory letter in 2000 after Allen was elected to the Senate.

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He said he remembers Allen also referring to blacks as "roaches," and using the word "wetback" to refer to Latinos.


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The_Casual_Observer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-29-06 04:49 PM
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1. Clearly, this guy is lying too.
He has every reason and motive to put himself out there for the purpose of telling lies about allen.


:sarcasm:
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LibDemAlways Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-29-06 04:53 PM
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2. Drip. Drip. Drip.
Michael Scherer of Salon.com has even more of the goods on Allen. He's very careful about documenting his sources, but he isn't through with Allen yet. Trust me on this.
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TheCowsCameHome Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-29-06 06:25 PM
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3. This from a football family guy like Allen? That's hard to believe.
I believe it. I hope the voters do, too.
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keta11 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-29-06 07:02 PM
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4. Another Macaca Boat Vet to the rescue.
Thanks!!!
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zonkers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-29-06 10:00 PM
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7. 2nd time your Delete Bush Admin. graphic fooled me (actually got my
glasses to read the small text and was cursing Windows before I realized it was not real.

And Macaca Boat Vets for Justice is too funny!!!!
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keta11 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-30-06 02:53 PM
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9. Delete buttons programmed to work on
11/7/06 and 11/4/08. I can't wait until we get rid of this criminal gang!!
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Divine Discontent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-01-06 01:30 AM
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13. I crack up when i read that saying "are you sure you want to delete"

http://www.cafepress.com/buy/delete+bush+administration/-/pv_design_prod/pg_1/p_storeid.57720428/pNo_57720428/id_12507337/opt_/fpt_/c_360/


if only all of us would get something all at once to put on our cars, could you IMAGINE the news saying how everyone is against bush? no, me neither! they wouldn't say a damn thing. lol
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Tin Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-29-06 08:12 PM
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5. The dam is bursting. Allen will lose in November.
If we can just win control of the Senate, too... Bush and Cheney run out of office on a rail :woohoo:
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Eurobabe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-29-06 09:13 PM
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6. Did he say that with a mouthful of ham sandwich?
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zonkers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-29-06 10:02 PM
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8. Friday and the funny zingers are flying
WOOT WOOT
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POAS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-30-06 03:02 PM
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10. Allen is waiting for
Sunday night the apologize, the start of Yom Kippur.
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AlienGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-01-06 12:23 AM
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12. What does that have to do with anything?
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POAS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-01-06 08:33 AM
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14. I think you know what
Yom Kippur is and why one would choose that day to make an apology to people for wronging them. So i am puzzled at your puzzlement?
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AlienGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-01-06 04:51 PM
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15. Since he is a Christian and not a practicing Jew, I still don't get it.
Edited on Sun Oct-01-06 04:52 PM by AlienGirl
Unless the intent was to point out that he has Jewish heritage, and I don't understand how that is relevant here. :-)

Tucker
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POAS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-01-06 05:59 PM
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16. The point I tried to make is
that his claim to not have known about his Jewish heritage is as believable as his sayint that he made up the word macaca on the spot and his other excuses. Of course he wouldb't actually be waiting for Yom Kippur to apologize any more than he would apologize on any other day.

Next time I'll put a big :sarcasm: on my post to avoid confusion.
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pampango Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-30-06 03:21 PM
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11. Can we focus more on what he has said and done
in the past few years rather than what he said and did when he was 20.

He has made racist statements during the campaign. There may be good people who have changed since their immature college days who can be tarnished by the brush of the relevancy of statements or actions taken when someone was young.

I know people will say that his recent racist statements open up his history as fair game. But does the question of whether he has been a racist for 30 year or just the last year or two really matter. If he is a racist now, that is what should matter. Not how long he has been one.
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