Bush says critics swayed by terrorist propaganda

[Barrett808]

WASHINGTON (AFP) - President George W. Bush accused some Iraq war critics, who have seized on US government findings that the conflict fuels terrorist recruitment, of buying into "the enemy's propaganda."

With just weeks before critical November 7 US legislative elections, Bush has drawn fire from opposition Democrats over a formal US intelligence report that labels the Iraq war a pillar of terrorist recruitment worldwide.

The president used a speech here Friday to shoot back at those who use the document to "make the case that by fighting the terrorists, by fighting them in Iraq, we are making our people less secure here at home."

"This argument buys into the enemy's propaganda that the terrorists attack us because we're provoking them," he charged. "You do not create terrorism by fighting terrorism."

"If that ever becomes the mindset of the policymakers in Washington, it means we'll go back to the old days of waiting to be attacked and then respond," he said Friday.

"Iraq is not the reason the terrorists are at war against us. They are at war against us because they hate everything America stands for," said the president.

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http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20060929/ts_afp/usattacksiraqpoliticsbush

[liberalmuse]

1. Republican math

If they say x/y, then all you have to do is inverse it to get to the truth = y/x. In other words, Bush supporters are swayed by terrorist propoganda.

[Supersedeas]

18. Wrong headed policies that create more terrorists where there were few

before is a good thing, b/c we can fight MORE over there rather than LESS.

And the cowardly Media just eats it up, props * up, and refuses to analyse his statements for shit.

Basically, he is calling our OWN intelligence report--enemy propoganda and the Dunder Pundits repeat it like its the gospel.

[BOSSHOG]

2. That bush guy is a pretty slick character

so because the terrorists hate everything America stands for, he is going to legislate everything we stand for away, then the terrorists won't hate us. What a fucking genius.

[0007]

3. junior is insane! Perhaps that's because he doesn't have a brain.

His very sight or the sound of his voice is enough to create a riot.

[Richard Steele]

4. "You do not create terrorism by fighting terrorism."

No, George, you create it by killing 2 hundred THOUSAND civilians.

You create it by invading a sovereign nation for profit,
destroying its basic infrastructure in the process.

You create it by reducing a formerly-stable country
to a hellish nightmare of terror, repression, and the
rule of violence.

[opusprime]

5. We stand for Torture, Corruption, and Pre-Emptive war...

I guess I have something in common with the terrorists.

[joemurphy]

6. Whew! Thank God! At last someone stands up for what's

happening!

It's those grainy, Osama videos, with all that squiggly Arabic writing in the margins, and the overdubbed English that's putting us on the wrong road!

"When the cow defecates, the infidel moos! Hear my fatwah, O ye believers and be enlightened!"

Who could not be swayed by such insidious propaganda. Thank you again, Mr. President, for keeping us on the right track. Let's hope CNN refrains from giving such clever propagandists a national forum for their lies!

[Make7]

7. The problem is more serious than I had ever imagined.

Our own intelligence agencies are producing terrorist propaganda disguised by calling it the National Intelligence Estimate. You are either with us or the terrorists. We must destroy all of our intelligence agencies to defeat these newly discovered terrorists. Call the White House! Call your Representatives! Spread the word! We must fight the terrorists here, so we can continue to not fight them over there!

- Make7

[xxqqqzme]

9. Exactly - I'm surprised they haven't all

been fired or arrested as enemy combatants. I hope they're tortured into telling us who paid them to spread such lies!

[Make7]

14. Don't forget...

... the intelligence community is responsible for getting us into the Iraq War in the first place. Their handling of the intelligence regarding WMD's was obviously purposely bungled to lead us into a trap. They added those caveats and disclaimers to their pre-war estimates after there were no WMD's found just to cover their tracks.

I'm on to them. And Bush is on to them. "Fool me once, shame on — shame on you. Fool me — you can't get fooled again." The intelligence community is in cahoots with our true enemies. We must use extraordinary rendition and send them to Syria, Egypt, Jordan and Uzbekistan. Those countries know how to get the information we need. We will uncover who is behind all of this. We need to use these methods in order to protect the freedoms of all Americans. (All Americans that aren't terrorist sympathizers.)

- Make7

[0007]

15. We must fight the terrorists here, so we can continue to not fight

them over there."

You must add the old line......"we've leveled the playing field"

[underpants]

17. "With us or against us" was designed for domestic consumption

and that is all it was designed for. They couldn't care less if Europe or the Middle East hears it let alone what they think of it. They crafted that to set the definitive line as to whether or not people would dare oppose anything that he (they) say and even if they consider it at the last moment when they are about to pull that voting lever they ask themselves "Am I voting with the terrorist?"

That is the entire goal of that phrase and their campaign-Votes or at least making the voting results sound more plausible. That is it.

ON EDIT

This of course is the very worst way they could have possibly gone about a "War on Terror". They should have set the parties there against each other the LAST thing you would want to do is unite them against you. Aside from just the number of fighters it cuts off the information flow and information is the key in any counterterrorist battle. They don't care though that message was only meant for our ears not anyone else. There is no policy it is all politics.

[Supersedeas]

19. That consequence logically flows from his SPIN, but will Corp Media whores

bother to analyze it.

Accomplices don't analyze or think for themselves--they follow orders.

[sweetheart]

33. 16 national intelligence agencies were fooled by terrorists

in to repeating their propaganda as the emperor's new clothes. Look Look,
at his new clothes, how transparent they are of late... no, no, don't look,
look over here, another republican pervert wants to fuck a child.

[Javaman]

8. Logic would dictate that moron*s is the one influenced by

terrorist propaganda. But you know, logic only applies to the thinking.

[maxrandb]

10. But I though we "are fighting 'em over there so we wouldn't have to

fight 'em over here" :wtf:

I don't get it George. Did we go to I-rak to get them "terrist" before they stormed the beaches of Atlantic City? Since I-rak had absolutely nothing to do with the attacks of 9/11, just what the hell are we doing there? If they attacked us before we went into I-rak, and they'll attack us if we stay in I-rak, and if they'll attack us if we leave I-rak, then where do we go from there? If it's a sign of weakness to pull-out, then why did we follow Osama Bin Laden's order to remove our bases from Saudi Arabia? Were you a "terrist" when you gave the Taliban $43 million in the spring of 2001?

[Xipe Totec]

11. Yea, we stand for torture and they hate that

No shit, Sherlock.

[flyarm]

12. no you little fucker.,.no one sways me..i use my brains you piece of shit!

you little pissy pants fucker..its your fucking idiot base that needs propaganda..and swallows the koolaide you stupid little fascist mother fukcer!

you torturing little piece of dog dung!

fly

[flordehinojos]

13. i am a bush critic. i am a critic of the war. i am a peace now. bring the

troops home now. no blood for oil war. not in my name person who believes that,

terrorists attack us because BUSH provokes them.
terrorists attack us because BUSH provokes them.
terrorists attack us because BUSH provokes them.
terrorists attack us because BUSH provokes them.
terrorists attack us because BUSH provokes them.
terrorists attack us because BUSH provokes them.
terrorists attack us because BUSH provokes them.
terrorists attack us because BUSH provokes them.
terrorists attack us because BUSH provokes them.
terrorists attack us because BUSH provokes them.
terrorists attack us because BUSH provokes them.
terrorists attack us because BUSH provokes them.
terrorists attack us because BUSH provokes them.
terrorists attack us because BUSH provokes them.
terrorists attack us because BUSH PROVOKES THEM.
terrorists attack us because BUSH provokes them.
terrorists attack us because BUSH provokes them.
TERRORISTS ATTACK US BECAUSE BUSH PROVOKES THEM.

[uppityperson]

16. the furher is the enemy

[rocktivity]

20. I think that's the first honest thing he's ever said

Oops--he was talking about the enemy in IRAQ?

:blush:
rocknation

[smoogatz]

21. Bushco propaganda, on the other hand,

just keeps perpetuating the lie that the Sunni insurgents in Iraq are the same people who committed 9/11, AND that sectarian violence in Iraq is also just "terrorism," which will eventually be defeated by U.S. troops on the battlefield, if only the dang media would stop pointing out that the consensus in the intelligence community is that Bush has created a failed state in Iraq in which 9/11-style terrorists can now function at will. Shorter Bush: the American people are idiots who will believe any damn thing he tells them.

[savemefromdumbya]

22. 50% of America believes this dork!

[truthisfreedom]

23. the terrorists want over-reaction. that's what the bush administration did

bush played right into the terrorist's hands.

[Supersedeas]

29. thus eating their own rhetorical feces

[treestar]

24. So he's saying terrorists are persuasive

I guess those ole terrorists have some pretty good arguments.

:sarcasm:

[lumpy]

31. Oh my God, Bush has gone beyond senility.

His declarations are simply nonsensical. I must discontinue listening to all that terrorist propaganda I hear over the airwaves. Groan...must concentrate on Bush's propaganda, must concentrate on Bush's propaganda must concentrate on must......

[Ishoutandscream2]

25. "Enemy propaganda." Pot, meet kettle

I know a certain someone who has been "catapulting" it the past few years.

Oh, George, Herr Goebbels would be so proud!

[MrPrax]

26. Did someone say Propaganda?

For anyone interested, Harper's "I Was A PR Intern in Iraq" is a ripping good yarn about...um...enemy propaganda?

Over lunch at the recently bombed and rebuilt Green Zone Café -- an air-conditioned tent with plastic chairs and a TV airing Lebanese music videos -- Jon explained that he was returning home for several weeks of R & R and that Jim Sutton had chosen me to be his replacement.

Jon quickly sketched out my new I.O. responsibilities. An Army team inside the Al Faw palace, another of Saddam's former residences, would send me news articles they had cobbled together from wire stories and their own reports from the field. It was my job to select the ones that seemed most like Iraqis had written them. I was then to pass these articles along to our Iraqi employees, who would translate the pieces into Arabic and place them in local newspapers. Jon told me that the U.S. Army could hardly carry out this work in their military uniforms, so they hired Lincoln Group, which could operate with far fewer restrictions. It was a bread-and-butter contract, he said, that paid the company about $5 million annually. I asked if the newspapers knew that Lincoln Group or the U.S. military were behind these articles. They did and they didn't, Jon said. The Iraqis working for us posed as freelance journalists, but they also paid editors at the papers to publish the stories -- part of the cost Lincoln Group billed back to the military. "Look," Jon assured me, "it's very straightforward. You just have to keep the military happy."

AlterNet

BushCo become some hermetically sealed echo chamber impervious to either sincerity or intelligiblity.

[bluedog]

27. The NIE is "Enemy Propoganda?

what a freaking moron

[tfrancell]

28. Oh Right! So are the CIA and the rest of ...

...the U.S. Government "intelligence" community now "terrorists" George?:eyes:

[number6]

30. The War to create more Terrorists

continues ....:nuke: :smoke:

[struggle4progress]

32. Where's all this alleged "terrorist propaganda"?

We're all sittin up at nights listenin to Radio alQIDA? We're busy readin the "Ask Osama" column in the local newspaper? Canadians are flyin over the Great Lakes to drop pro-terrorist pamphlets on our major cities? An Iraq-based mass-mailer is sendin us Talkin Points on microfilm microdots hidden under postage stamps? Or George is hallucinatin like he's got the DTs bad?