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ECH1969 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-28-06 09:34 PM
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Breaking: House approves Bush's wiretapping bill
Edited on Thu Sep-28-06 09:49 PM by ECH1969
WASHINGTON - The House approved a bill Thursday giving legal status to President Bush's warrantless wiretapping program with restrictions.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060929/ap_on_go_co/congress_eavesdropping_3
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Will the dems in the Senate filibuster? :rofl:
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Botany Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-28-06 09:39 PM
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1. Or why it was o.k. to tap John Kerry's operation in Ohio in 04
These guys are really fascists .... bush & company started this crap
in March of '01 working w/ ATT.

It is all part of their TIA or Total Information Awareness program.

Guarantee you that right now some of those NSA shits are using this ill gotten
right to make sure the '06 vote comes out how they want.
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cal04 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-28-06 09:39 PM
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2. "It is ceding the president's argument that Congress doesn't matter
(snip)

"The Democrats' irrational opposition to strong national security policies that help keep our nation secure should be of great concern to the American people," Majority Leader John Boehner, R-Ohio, said in a statement after the bill passed 232-191.

"To always have reasons why you just can't vote 'yes,' I think speaks volumes when it comes to which party is better able and more willing to take on the terrorists and defeat them," Boehner said.

Democrats shot back that the war on terrorism shouldn't be fought at the expense of civil and human rights. The bill approved by the House, they argued, gives the president too much power and leaves the law vulnerable to being overturned by a court.

"It is ceding the president's argument that Congress doesn't matter in this area," said Rep. Chris Van Hollen, D-Md.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/09/28/AR2006092801281.html
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Art_from_Ark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-28-06 09:48 PM
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3. Guess what, Congressional Dems
You haven't mattered one whit since you ceded your right to challenge the presidential election results in January 2001.
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lovuian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-28-06 09:51 PM
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4. This Congress will be stamped now as War Criminals
and Criminals against the Bill of Rights


This is evil and I know what they mean by evildoers

this Congress is a bunch of evildoers

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Zhade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-29-06 06:04 AM
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29. But by WHO?
And who will stop them?

The hour is late!

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atreides1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-29-06 07:35 AM
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30. Eventually the World will ally against the US
Remember it took some time before the world allied to fight the Axis, it will take time for the world to ally to fight a new American tyrant.

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PassingFair Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-28-06 09:51 PM
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5. Who is the ONE *uckwit
who voted for it?

Anyone?
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PassingFair Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-29-06 07:55 AM
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31. In the light of day...
18.

My eyes are puffy. I will see only my best and
trusted clients today. They will be feeling
like I do.
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ECH1969 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-28-06 10:11 PM
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6. cant be weak on terra
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valerief Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-28-06 10:12 PM
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7. It's gotta be the anthrax threat. Or they're all insane and cruel. n/t
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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-28-06 10:27 PM
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8. I don't suppose the restriction involve him getting a warrant...
:cry:
rocknation
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MannyGoldstein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-28-06 11:11 PM
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9. Why Worry? The Battlin' Congressional Dems Have Our Back!
They'll use every tool at their disposal to ensure that Americans retain their basic civil liberties, and that America will live up to its obligations of providing basic human rights to combatants.*

*Unless there's a buck in it to do otherwise, or it involves taking an actual stand on something. Hey, who the hell else you gonna vote for?
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killbotfactory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-29-06 02:45 AM
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11. No, we gotta keep our powder dry.
don't wanna look like we are standing up to a very unpopular president. That will kill our chances in november.

:eyes:
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progressivebydesign Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-28-06 11:33 PM
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10. Is it okay on DU now to call Hastert a douchebag?
Not sure what's acceptable anymore... but there just simply is no other word for it: <<"Democrat Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi and 159 of her Democrat colleagues voted today in favor of more rights for terrorists," Hastert said in a statement. "So the same terrorists who plan to harm innocent Americans and their freedom worldwide would be coddled, if we followed the Democrat plan. ">>
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Marie26 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-29-06 03:59 AM
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12. House of Representatives Passes Warrantless Wiretap Bill
Just now on C-Span - House of Rep. passed H.R. 5825, the Electronic Surveillance Modernization Act, by a vote of 220 ayes to 199 noes. One Democrat voted for the legislation, and five Republicans voted against the bill.

http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2006/roll499.xml
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KyndCulture Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-29-06 03:59 AM
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13. oh can this day just end already.
:nuke:
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astonamous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-29-06 03:59 AM
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14. What a way to end the day!
What's up for tomorrow...burnt offerings at the alter of Bush?

Time for a drink or six.

Trudy
www.pryorsplanet.com
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KyndCulture Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-29-06 03:59 AM
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16. I just opened a bottle of wine.
I can't take it..

Yeah tomorrow's headlines.. 'George Bush Declares Self God'
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nam78_two Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-29-06 03:59 AM
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22. yeah am planning to get nice and drunk
took the day off from work to watch CSPAN today....

bleh....
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Marie26 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-29-06 03:59 AM
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19. God knows
Edited on Thu Sep-28-06 10:19 PM by Marie26
They're still there, passing bills. For all we know, tomorrow could officially be declared "Halliburton Day". They're on a roll now, this do-nothing Congress, passing every bill Bush asks for before the recess tomorrow.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-29-06 03:59 AM
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15. Selfish House-no time for health care, housing for the poor but time to
pass this for Mr. Bushco! damm. i am so feeling defeated today
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leftofcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-29-06 03:59 AM
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17. I think we can safely say
Goodbye to the America we have known and loved hello to the New Facist State of America. I am nearly 60 years old and I never thought I would see the day where our beloved Constitution was nothing more than a dead piece of literature. I would never have believed that any of my Congressmen or Congresswomen, regardless of their politics, would pass legislature where people can be tortured or held without reason. I never dreamed that one day I would live in a country where my own government could listen in on my phone calls or read my mail without cause. I am far too old to begin anew, to just pack it in and relocate to another country but in my heart I have completely disowned America and I can no longer call myself an American without feeling shame. Do you hear that America? I disown you!!!!!!!!!

Left of Cool
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Placebo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-29-06 03:59 AM
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18. How many times since Election 2000...
or 9/11/2001 has the political left said "Goodbye to the America"?

It ain't over 'til it's over!

Things are bad, but...they could be a lot worse.
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bmcatt Donating Member (398 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-29-06 03:59 AM
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21. Could be worse is just what I fear
So far, every time I've thought "well, just think... it could be worse", then *POOF*... it gets worse.

I really don't want to see what happens next.
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nam78_two Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-29-06 03:59 AM
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23. don't lose heart
when progressives give up-thats when its over....
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Rose Siding Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-29-06 03:59 AM
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20. Osama must think it's his birthday or something
:(
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robbibaba Donating Member (128 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-29-06 03:59 AM
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24. The terrorists have already won. We call them republicans
but they're really something else, I think.
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w4rma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-29-06 03:59 AM
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25. This one isn't getting past the Senate Democrats. (nt)
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radfringe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-29-06 03:59 AM
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26. link to Washington Post story
House passes warrantless domestic spying measure
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/09/28/AR2006092802052_pf.html
By Thomas Ferraro | Reuters
Thursday, September 28, 2006; 11:14 PM


WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The House of Representatives passed a bill on Thursday that would provide congressional authorization for President George W. Bush's warrantless domestic spying program but subject it to new rules.

With a court battle waging over the program's legality, the House, controlled by Bush's fellow Republicans, approved the measure on a largely party-line vote of 232-191, and sent it to the Senate for needed concurrence.

The Senate, however, has been unable to agree on such legislation, preventing Bush from getting a final measure to sign into law before members of Congress go home to campaign for the November 7 elections. That had been a top Republican goal.

With both parties bickering over who can best protect America, the bill outlines when and how a president can order warrantless surveillance. The president would be permitted to do so, for example, after an "armed attack," "terrorist attack" or when the president deems there is an "imminent threat."

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and-justice-for-all Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-29-06 05:41 AM
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27. Pathetic...I am so sick of Chancellor Shurb and his..
...goons getting away with whatever the fuck they want.
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Zhade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-29-06 06:03 AM
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28. Warrantless = ILLEGAL and UNCONSTITUTIONAL!
It's a clear breach of the 4th fucking amendment!

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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-29-06 08:26 AM
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32. See what they have here now?
They can haul you into court and say, "we have recordings of you saying terrorist type stuff", but we don't have to show you the evidence because of the anti-terror bill that suspended Habeus Corpus.

So in other words, we are living in the beginning times of either nazi germany or stalinistic russia. Take your pick.
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