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DeepModem Mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-26-06 06:06 PM
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Spellings backs ideas to simplify college choices: Vast student data...
collection would be required.

CNN/AP: Spellings backs ideas to simplify college choices
September 26, 2006

WASHINGTON (AP) -- Handed a plan to shake up college life in America, Education Secretary Margaret Spellings is endorsing some of its key ideas and promising to get moving on them.

Her overarching theme is to make everything about college -- choosing one, affording one, succeeding in one -- easier for families. Parents should be able to shop for a college as simply as they shop for a car, she said, with a clear expectation of what they will get....

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High on her list is the creation of a massive information system -- a way to judge how colleges and universities are doing in helping students succeed. It would require a vast collection of data on students, with a promise that their privacy will be protected.

The Education Department would work with states and colleges to make that happen, Spellings said Monday, commenting for the first time on a national commission's ideas.

The department would then use the data to overhaul its college Web site. The idea is for people to compare one school to another, right down to the typical salaries of graduates....

http://www.cnn.com/2006/EDUCATION/09/26/higher.education.ap/index.html
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OhioChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-26-06 06:10 PM
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1. Isn't much of this
data compiling already on collegeboard.com?
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-26-06 06:59 PM
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9. Who owns Collegeboard?
Who is going to get the privatized contract to create this database? Especially when what students really need is a centralized application and scholarship process.
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OhioChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-26-06 07:13 PM
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11. College Entrance Examination Board.........
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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-27-06 12:56 PM
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18. No, this would go beyond that. Do you trust Bushco to tell the truth in
ANYTHING they do?
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OhioChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-27-06 03:45 PM
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20. Oh, I know that this would go beyond that.
Edited on Wed Sep-27-06 03:46 PM by OhioChick
I was only commenting on "Collegeboard" already having a hell of a lot of information on everyone.

on edit: spelling
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northzax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-26-06 06:10 PM
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2. or, for a lot less money
we could buy everyone a copy of the US News College edition, the WashingtonMonthly college edition and a halfway decent college guide. All would be about as useful.
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tanyev Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-26-06 06:12 PM
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3. And then, the government can tell the students what school they
should go to, what field they should study, and what occupation they are best suited for! Won't that be grand?
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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-26-06 06:14 PM
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4. Didn't the Soviet Union do that?
nt
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tanyev Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-26-06 06:20 PM
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6. Yes! And look how well that worked out for them.
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eppur_se_muova Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-26-06 06:15 PM
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5. This story was covered on NPR's Morning Edition ...
and they kept emphasizing that this was being touted as a reason to introduce STANDARDIZED TESTING at all colleges, just like NCLB in K-12 ... all in all, sounds like one of the worst ideas I've ever heard. We already have the GRE, MCAT, etc. administrated to graduates, we have Barron's and Princeton Guides, the only excuse for this is to HOMOGENIZE colleges and CONTROL the curriculum -- just like NCLB.

K&R; this is very ugly news waiting to happen.
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DeepModem Mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-26-06 06:23 PM
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7. Academia is a thorn in their side -- they're trying to take it over...
as they like to do any of our institutions they can.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-26-06 06:45 PM
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8. this whole adm. is baut more and more data on everyone. It seems to be
the solution to all problems.
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Anakin Skywalker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-26-06 07:11 PM
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10. Why Not Just Draft Most of Them?
Afterall, this shit War of Terror will go on forever.
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Scooter24 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-26-06 08:26 PM
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12. Just wait till this is up and running...
and the Pentagon comes knocking at their door.
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Viking12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-26-06 10:25 PM
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13. What's that I smell?
An unfunded mandate? This is just a backdoor method for the RW anti-intellectuls to try and kill higher ed. They'll drowned us in their expensive paperwork bullshit so we have no resources to use to teach our students.
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silverweb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-26-06 10:40 PM
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14. Bullshit smokescreen
It's just another excuse for comprehensive government data mining and data-base building.
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Warren Stupidity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-27-06 09:27 AM
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15. a promise that their privacy will be protected
This administration is the vilest bunch of evil lying motherfuckers I have ever experienced in my life. They make the Nixon gang look like a bunch of amateurs.

Total Information Awareness is being implemented.
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GeorgeGist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-27-06 11:06 AM
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16. Will they include foreign colleges?
Most american cars suck.
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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-27-06 12:56 PM
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17. They have the exec, legislative and ALMOST the judiciary banches
They have most of the "mainstream" media. Now they are going after the "liberal" bastion of higher ed. Don't be fooled by any of this people. They want to destroy free academia as we know it, the same way they went after PBS. And many in academia, especially administrators, knowing that changes in some paradigms may be needed, of course - you can always try to maximize potentialities, will fall for this crap.
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anotherdrew Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-27-06 01:54 PM
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19. "down to the typical salaries of graduates" this is madness
our nation is being run by a generation of mindless fuckwits.
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