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seafan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-21-06 11:24 AM
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Mandatory HIV Testing (CDC pushing for all Americans 13-84)
Edited on Thu Sep-21-06 11:25 AM by seafan
Mandatory HIV Testing

09/21/06
By Larry Little


The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is pushing to make HIV tests mandatory. The goal is to make HIV testing a routine part of doctor visits.

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The debate continues, about who should be tested for HIV. "It just depends on the risk of the individual. Those people who inject drugs, is one of the ways you can contract it and those who are sexually promiscuous", says Brown.

The Center for Disease Control wants to expand HIV testing. Already doctors are being encouraged to ask patients 13 to 84 years old if they would like an HIV test. Some experts believe mandatory testing would help save lives, by helping to track and treat the disease, but others don't think such a drastic step, like testing everyone for HIV, is necessary.





CDC backs HIV test for all between 13-64

MIKE STOBBE
Associated Press

September 21, 2006


ATLANTA - All Americans between the ages of 13 and 64 should be routinely tested for HIV to help catch infections earlier and stop the spread of the deadly virus, federal health recommendations announced Thursday say.
The U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention said HIV testing should become about as common as a cholesterol check.

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The recommendations aren't legally binding, but they influence what doctors do and what health insurance programs cover.
Some physicians groups predict the recommendations will be challenging to implement, involving new expenditures of money and time for testing, counseling and revising consent procedures.
Some physicians also question whether there is enough evidence to expand testing beyond high-risk groups, said Dr. Larry Fields, the president of the American Academy of Family Physicians.

"Are doctors going to do it? Probably not," Fields said.

But the recommendations were endorsed by the American Medical Association, which urged physicians to comply.

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Previously, the CDC recommended routine testing for those at high-risk for catching the virus, such as intravenous drug users and gay men, and for hospitals and certain other institutions serving areas where HIV is common. It also recommends testing for all pregnant women.
Under the new guidelines, patients would be tested for HIV as part of a standard battery of tests they receive when they go for urgent or emergency care, or even during a routine physical.

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There would be no consent form specifically for the HIV test; it would be covered in a clinic or hospital's standard care consent form. Patients would be allowed to decline the testing.

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The CDC presented planned revisions at a scientific conference in February.

Since then, the CDC has strengthened language on informed consent to make sure that no one is tested without their knowledge,...

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noonwitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-21-06 11:36 AM
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1. No way
I am 100% sure I am not HIV+, the government does not need to test me for any reason whatsoever.
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humbled_opinion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-22-06 04:52 AM
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24. Whats next....
Tatoos on the foreheads of those that are?
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Tandalayo_Scheisskopf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-21-06 11:39 AM
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2. Does anyone know...
Where I can find a really big .jpg of a middle-finger salute? I want to let the CDC know they are #1 with me.

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pinerow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-21-06 11:42 AM
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3. Really not a bad idea...
the only person who can be absolutely, positively, 200% sure they are not infected are, oh wait...there is really no way to know unless you've been tested...I've been tested several times over the years and have been negative everytime... :toast:
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closeupready Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-21-06 12:37 PM
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13. With facilities like Gitmo, you'd trust the government?
Seems naive.
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951-Riverside Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-21-06 11:42 AM
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4. Its not going to stop people from spreading it so whats the point?
If I wanted to know of my partner was HIV+ I couldn't because the records will be confidential and rightfully so.
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pinerow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-21-06 11:53 AM
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6. If you think your partner may be infected...why would you
not insist that you be tested together...if your partner is infected, the CDC or your local health department is required to perform "post-test" counseling and notify partners that they too, may be infected...and if your partner refuses to test, well then, you can decide whether you still wish to be with that person. As for me, I would not stick around any relationship where my partner would refuse a test.
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Caution Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-21-06 11:51 AM
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5. 100% for this. People need to know if they are HIV+
We routinely get tested for TB, why not HIV? Medical records are private (I work for a company that requires HIPAA compliance and take my word for it, it is taken VERY seriously by health care providers, health insurance companies, etc).

Also for those screaming about this take note of the section that states:

Patients would be allowed to decline the testing.
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pinerow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-21-06 11:54 AM
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7. If you continue to use logic, we won't chit-chat anymore...
:toast:
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closeupready Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-21-06 12:38 PM
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14. As seriously as the Geneva Convention,
I'm sure.

(Just being jestful, with a little kernel of truth there.)
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the other one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-21-06 11:56 AM
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8. Yet another way of tracking everyone.
Wonderfuckingful.
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IronLionZion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-21-06 11:57 AM
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9. You can get tested with a simple finger stick
all they want to know is if your body has produced anti-bodies to the virus. Just a tiny drop of blood is enough.

I got tested for HIV just 2 weeks ago and am clean. It makes me feel a lot better knowing. Uncertainty and worry is just not worth it.

I would support this as long as there is the option to decline if you don't want to do it.
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pinto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-21-06 12:02 PM
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10. Unfortunate headline from KTRE-TV, because it's wrong.
The AP article (cited below the TV blurb) got it right.

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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-21-06 12:26 PM
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11. Republicans: the small government party
:eyes:
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fed-up Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-21-06 12:35 PM
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12. "they influence what doctors do and what health insurance programs cover"
I am against mandatory testing as it will ALL end up in some government controlled data base available only to insurance agents and homeland security.

-nuf said
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Jim Stark Donating Member (84 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-21-06 01:02 PM
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15. Routine, NOT mandatory
and it's a damned good idea.
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VegasWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-21-06 01:07 PM
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16. Another Bush payoff to the insurance companies, now they can dump
you before you get really sick. HIPPA does not apply to insurance companies, they demand access to your medical records as a precondition for insuring you.
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springhill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-22-06 04:06 AM
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22. Bingo to you.........
VegasWolf. You think they are just doing this for health reasons? I think not.
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phillysuse Donating Member (683 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-21-06 09:04 PM
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17. HIV testing for Bush and Jeff Gannon
Great idea - let's have George and Jeffy be the first tested.
There must have been some reason why Jeff Gannon stayed overnight in the White House over 100 times.
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MissB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-21-06 09:07 PM
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18. So 85 year olds don't have sex?
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-21-06 09:09 PM
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19. Okay, who will profit from all that unnecessary testing?
That's what driving this!
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leesa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-21-06 09:18 PM
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20. Who's cashing in on this one? Are they willing to pay for drugs to treat?
Edited on Thu Sep-21-06 09:19 PM by leesa
You KNOW they will be cancelling a hell of a lot of insurance policies. I would guess the insurance companies are behind this 100%.
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VegasWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-21-06 09:22 PM
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21. Insurance companies pushing this 1000%. They stand to save billions
Edited on Thu Sep-21-06 09:22 PM by VegasWolf
if they can cut off AIDS patients before they get sick.
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truthisfreedom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-22-06 04:34 AM
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23. follow the money. this is all about the insurance industry.
bet your life on it.

i believe that people should take responsibility to find out if they're sick, but if it's mandatory, a lot of very sick people who need help will be afraid to go to the doctor.
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