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deadparrot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-21-06 08:04 AM Original message |
Court says libraries can bar worship |
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crikkett (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-21-06 08:14 AM Response to Original message |
1. Ssssshhhhhh! |
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skooooo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-21-06 08:18 AM Response to Original message |
2. People encouraged to THINK in libraries.... |
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Jim Stark (84 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-21-06 12:34 PM Response to Reply #2 |
11. excuse me.... |
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kestrel91316 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-21-06 06:26 PM Response to Reply #11 |
32. Worship belongs in churches, not public libraries. |
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LiberalFighter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-21-06 07:18 PM Response to Reply #32 |
35. If they don't have their own worship place... |
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fshrink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-21-06 06:34 PM Response to Reply #11 |
34. Yep. Pretty much. |
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KAZ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-21-06 07:24 PM Response to Reply #11 |
37. Uh, yes. What's your point? It's called faith. n/t |
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VegasWolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-21-06 12:43 PM Response to Reply #2 |
12. See, they can pray to sky people and the go to the Science Fiction |
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Anakin Skywalker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-21-06 07:43 PM Response to Reply #2 |
41. Duplicate Posting |
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NMDemDist2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-21-06 08:24 AM Response to Original message |
3. as long as they aren't proselytizing I don't see why they can't rent the |
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MissMillie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-21-06 08:31 AM Response to Reply #3 |
4. Yep... there's more to it than it just being a church |
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sui generis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-21-06 08:33 AM Response to Reply #3 |
5. Because if it's being used for a prayer meetin' |
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wakeme2008 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-21-06 08:34 AM Response to Reply #3 |
6. For one the room is Free |
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VegasWolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-21-06 12:45 PM Response to Reply #6 |
14. Free meeting room means greater tithe return on investment! nt |
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sweetheart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-21-06 08:43 AM Response to Reply #3 |
7. Yes, its a first amendment thing, the ability to meet up in like conscienc |
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greccogirl (566 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-21-06 01:24 PM Response to Reply #7 |
19. Yes, it is horrible. |
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Wretched Refuse (105 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-21-06 10:24 PM Response to Reply #7 |
49. the right of the people peaceably to assemble |
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transeo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-21-06 01:56 PM Response to Reply #3 |
22. If they want to worship they should use their church facilities |
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LostinVA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-21-06 03:26 PM Response to Reply #22 |
26. That's how I see it, too |
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sweetheart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-21-06 06:33 PM Response to Reply #22 |
33. The first amendment is about freedom to meet up |
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KansDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-21-06 03:13 PM Response to Reply #3 |
23. Many libraries make meeting rooms available to the public at no charge |
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Tracer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-21-06 08:53 AM Response to Original message |
8. I live in a town that not only has a big library, but ... |
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Wretched Refuse (105 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-21-06 10:26 PM Response to Reply #8 |
50. Or conversely... |
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Mudoria (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-22-06 11:49 AM Response to Reply #50 |
62. I imagine when |
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Charlie Brown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-21-06 09:13 AM Response to Original message |
9. Here's the opinion |
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VegasWolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-21-06 12:48 PM Response to Reply #9 |
16. dupe |
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greccogirl (566 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-21-06 01:25 PM Response to Reply #9 |
20. What is the difference between |
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KAZ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-21-06 07:27 PM Response to Reply #20 |
38. I would guess because.... |
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greccogirl (566 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-21-06 10:11 PM Response to Reply #38 |
43. Of course not. |
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transeo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-22-06 03:39 PM Response to Reply #43 |
68. How is it discrimination? |
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Charlie Brown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-22-06 01:13 AM Response to Reply #20 |
52. the difference is a worship meeting is far more likely to disturb patrons |
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transeo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-22-06 03:31 PM Response to Reply #20 |
67. Why should either be done at taxpayer expense? |
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noonwitch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-21-06 11:45 AM Response to Original message |
10. We had a church that rented our high school out on Sundays |
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carolinayellowdog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-21-06 12:44 PM Response to Original message |
13. Time, space and noise factors |
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w4rma (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-21-06 12:47 PM Response to Original message |
15. Yeah, but why would a library want to block them except in some extreme |
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VegasWolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-21-06 12:49 PM Response to Original message |
17. There is always the danger the Evangelicals will lose their rattlesnakes. |
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greccogirl (566 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-21-06 01:24 PM Response to Original message |
18. This is wrong. They should be allowed to rent the room |
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transeo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-21-06 01:53 PM Response to Reply #18 |
21. It's called separation of church and state |
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greccogirl (566 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-21-06 10:12 PM Response to Reply #21 |
44. Except that these situations have been |
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transeo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-22-06 10:43 AM Response to Reply #44 |
58. They ARE allowed to use the room! |
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KansDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-21-06 03:19 PM Response to Reply #18 |
24. Where does it say "rent" in the article? |
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carolinayellowdog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-21-06 04:22 PM Response to Reply #18 |
30. No one is preventing them from using the room |
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greccogirl (566 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-21-06 10:13 PM Response to Reply #30 |
45. Why? |
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Nevernose (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-22-06 08:27 AM Response to Reply #45 |
57. I believe it's based on the "bible club in school" decision |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-21-06 03:25 PM Response to Original message |
25. Deleted message |
LostinVA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-21-06 03:27 PM Response to Reply #25 |
27. oh boy |
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KAZ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-21-06 07:31 PM Response to Reply #27 |
39. Button. Lower left. n/t |
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LeftyMom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-21-06 03:37 PM Response to Original message |
28. Good. Libraries promote thinking, churches make it a sin. |
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OregonDem (242 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-21-06 03:42 PM Response to Original message |
29. I don't have a problem if they rent it, since there are costs to use it |
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greccogirl (566 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-21-06 10:14 PM Response to Reply #29 |
46. I totally agree. |
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transeo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-22-06 03:47 PM Response to Reply #29 |
69. There is NO RENT involved and the church is not excluded from using it |
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nealmhughes (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-21-06 06:02 PM Response to Original message |
31. Well, I am a librarian, an academic librarian, not a "have you got the new |
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VegasWolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-21-06 07:21 PM Response to Reply #31 |
36. I like the way you think!! Cheers!!! nt |
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greccogirl (566 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-21-06 10:15 PM Response to Reply #31 |
47. I agree - |
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DuaneBidoux (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-21-06 07:36 PM Response to Original message |
40. I don't agree with this one. |
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greccogirl (566 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-21-06 10:16 PM Response to Reply #40 |
48. Yes - you cannot |
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carolinayellowdog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-22-06 03:24 AM Response to Reply #40 |
53. It IS open to all groups, but not to all activities |
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LostinVA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-22-06 06:29 AM Response to Reply #53 |
54. Correct -- no one is saying the group can't meet |
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silvermachine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-22-06 11:34 AM Response to Reply #54 |
59. It wouldn't be allowed... |
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llmart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-22-06 07:45 PM Response to Reply #54 |
70. I am in charge of booking the meeting rooms........... |
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Anakin Skywalker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-21-06 07:48 PM Response to Original message |
42. Self-Deleted to Preserve Harmony Here @ D.U. |
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Wretched Refuse (105 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-21-06 10:35 PM Response to Reply #42 |
51. Harmony |
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Bridget Burke (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-22-06 07:39 AM Response to Original message |
55. "Allowing prayer services would mean taxpayers would be subsidizing.. |
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Ilsa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-22-06 08:06 AM Response to Original message |
56. Can it be used by a group that wants to have an orgy there? |
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VegasWolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-22-06 11:37 AM Response to Reply #56 |
60. Wait, not so fast, let's consider whether this is a good use of facilities |
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ileus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-22-06 11:45 AM Response to Original message |
61. If the courts can tell religious groups no to public buildings... |
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VegasWolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-22-06 11:50 AM Response to Reply #61 |
63. Good, then I don't want Bush using my Federal dollars for war. nt |
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starroute (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-22-06 12:12 PM Response to Original message |
64. The real issue seems to be proselytizing |
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starroute (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-22-06 12:48 PM Response to Reply #64 |
65. And also that they're trying to have it both ways |
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Bridget Burke (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-22-06 03:08 PM Response to Original message |
66. The Alliance Defense Fund is behind this.... |
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