House panel backs Bush on detainees

[rodeodance]

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House panel backs Bush on detainees

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WASHINGTON (Reuters) - In an abrupt reversal, a U.S. House of Representatives committee narrowly voted on Wednesday to endorse
President George W. Bush's plan for tough interrogations and trials of foreign terrorism suspects after Republicans rounded up enough members.


About an hour earlier, the
House Judiciary Committee rejected Bush's plan, with three Republicans joining committee Democrats. Embarrassed Republicans then summoned absent members, called for another vote, and approved it 20-19.

Bush's bill, which critics said would result in inhumane interrogations and unfair trials, has met even stiffer resistance in the Senate, and the White House is trying to work out a compromise.

[ixion]

1. that doesn't make it legal or constitutional

just cause they do it. :grr:

[yellerpup]

2. Thanks for putting this up.

Can't really say anything right now because all I want to do is cuss. K&R :mad: :kick: :kick: :kick:

[joemurphy]

3. Another Republican idiocy that we have to stomach.

Hopefully, it will be a different story in the Senate.

[notadmblnd]

4. IWho is on the committee?

is it evenly split between dems and pubbies?

[joemurphy]

7. Here you go.

Republican
Hon. Hyde
(R) Illinois, 6th

Hon. Coble
(R) North Carolina, 6th

Hon. Smith
(R) Texas, 21st

Hon. Gallegly
(R) California, 24th

Hon. Goodlatte
(R) Virginia, 6th

Hon. Chabot
(R) Ohio, 1st

Hon. Lungren
(R) California, 3rd

Hon. Jenkins
(R) Tennessee, 1st

Hon. Cannon
(R) Utah, 3rd

Hon. Bachus
(R) Alabama, 6th

Hon. Inglis
(R) South Carolina, 4th

Hon. Hostettler
(R) Indiana, 8th

Hon. Green
(R) Wisconsin, 8th

Hon. Keller
(R) Florida, 8th

Hon. Issa
(R) California, 49th

Hon. Flake
(R) Arizona, 6th

Hon. Pence
(R) Indiana, 6th

Hon. Forbes
(R) Virginia, 4th

Hon. King
(R) Iowa, 5th

Hon. Feeney
(R) Florida, 24th

Hon. Franks
(R) Arizona, 2nd

Hon. Gohmert
(R) Texas, 1st

Democrat
Hon. Berman
(D) California, 28th

Hon. Boucher
(D) Virginia, 9th

Hon. Nadler
(D) New York, 8th

Hon. Scott
(D) Virginia, 3rd

Hon. Watt
(D) North Carolina, 12th

Hon. Lofgren
(D) California, 16th

Hon. Jackson Lee
(D) Texas, 18th

Hon. Waters
(D) California, 35th

Hon. Meehan
(D) Massachusetts, 5th

Hon. Delahunt
(D) Massachusetts, 10th

Hon. Wexler
(D) Florida, 19th

Hon. Weiner
(D) New York, 9th

Hon. Schiff
(D) California, 29th

Hon. Sánchez
(D) California, 39th

Hon. Van Hollen
(D) Maryland, 8th

Hon. Wasserman Schultz
(D) Florida, 20th

[pinto]

5. Here's an example of Committee Chair clout. Repubs call for a do-over.

[Supersedeas]

12. When you lose, but then don't really lose!!!

[liberal N proud]

6. How many of them were tortured by the white house to submit?

How many of the members voting Yea were threatened and tortured until they gave little lord pissy pants his way?

[BootinUp]

8. Hear no evil, See no evil, Speak no evil. n/t

[MallRat]

9. Who were the three cowardly GOP schmucks who suddenly flip-flopped?

Names. I want names. Why?

Because their Democratic opponents can absolutely bludgeon them to death in the elections now.

These three cowards "voted against the torture bill before they were for it."

These three cowards "stood up to against President Bush before kowtowing to him."

Names?

-MR

[Hell Hath No Fury]

11. I want names and phone numbers...

of all who voted for this obscenity -- they need to get an earful and STAT! :mad:

[AIJ Alom]

13. I don't think the 3 Republicans flip-flopped. (16 dems on the committee+3)

= 19 nay votes. Rather we should focus on the 20 Republicans who voted in favor of the Torture Bill.

[Solly Mack]

10. the interrogations are ALREADY inhumane...it's not a case of

"would result in" if Bush's bill passes

the trials were already unfair....it's not a case of "would result in"

and a lot of people are pretending - lying - feeding the illusion that America isn't ALREADY committing crimes...they are pretending it's a case of this will happen if Bush gets his way when the reality is all of this is ALREADY happening and has BEEN happening

but rather than deal with the actuality of events, there are people who would rather manufactured a phony reality...

I'm sick of it.

Anyone that would go along with the pretense that America isn't already breaking the law is a coward and a liar, and they are actively engaged in covering up the crimes that have already been committed

Stop pretending it's not happening already
Stop pretending America doesn't already torture
Stop pretending America isn't already breaking the law
Stop pretending

Pretending only protects the guilty.