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arcos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-20-06 07:00 AM
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3 more objects found outside shuttle
3 more objects found outside shuttle

HOUSTON - Shuttle astronauts spotted three pieces of debris floating in space outside Atlantis early Wednesday, a day after the discovery of two other mysterious objects forced a postponement of the landing.

Atlantis commander Brent Jett described the objects as two rings and a piece of foil. He told Mission Control the first object, about 100 feet from the shuttle, was "a reflective cloth or a mechanic looking-cloth. ... It's not a solid metal structure."

"It doesn't look like anything I've seen outside the shuttle," Jett said.

The astronauts noticed the objects during an extensive inspection of the space shuttle using a 50-foot-boom early Wednesday to see if its heat shield was damaged by a mysterious object that apparently floated off the spacecraft.

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http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060920/ap_on_sc/space_shuttle
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Demeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-20-06 07:02 AM
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1. Litter From Alien Sightseers?
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-20-06 07:04 AM
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2. Why are these 'objects'
floating with the Shuttle. Shouldn't the shuttle be going faster around the earth then anything floating around? I understand there's a lot of debris up there but to be in the same orbit and going at the same speed has the shuttle seems odd?

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skids Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-20-06 07:06 AM
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4. That's why...

...they are prone to wonder if they came off the shuttle.
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-20-06 07:46 AM
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15. So if they didn't
come off of the shuttle?

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skids Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-20-06 11:09 AM
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28. They could have hit it and bounced off at very low speed.

Inelastic collision.

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Occulus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-20-06 03:24 PM
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31. If that were the case
wouldn't the objects be receding in space from the body of the shuttle? Can't they detect that?

It's probably some things that came out when they opened something up on the shuttle. Sorry; I don't know any specifics of their mission this time around, so I can't say whether the shuttle's bay was opened or not. If so, something probably escaped when that happened.

What are the chances that they would encounter debris from a previous mission orbiting with them on this one?

Do we have photos of the objects?
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sofa king Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-20-06 04:37 PM
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35. It's almost certainly something from the shuttle.
The chances that the shuttle has managed to almost precisely match orbits with any of the 100,000 or so other pieces of junk in orbit is very low. And yes, I worded that sentence carefully.

Since the pieces of junk are described as foil and a ring, my first guess is that they are actually pieces of the robot arm itself. But the arm is only in operation when the vehicle's bay doors are open, so any stray trash left behind in there could have come loose. Such things have certainly happened before.

The good news is that there really isn't anything like that described in the article on the outside of the ship, so unless they're hinge parts for the bay doors, everything should be cool.
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IDemo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-20-06 08:05 AM
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22. objects in the 'same' orbit will move at the same speed
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-20-06 08:12 AM
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23. Doesn't the shuttle
use their rockets to change their speed and orbit?

Floating objects stay the same but the shuttle doesn't.

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reprobate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-20-06 09:19 AM
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25. And object in different orbits will move with vastly different speeds.


That's why even a peice of cloth or foil is capable of doing vast destruction to any craft in a different orbit, say on at the same altitude but opposite direction.
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katsy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-20-06 07:05 AM
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3. question...
Can they get back to the space station?

Would it be possible for Russia to send help?
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mtnester Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-20-06 07:06 AM
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5. I think Russion is already up and flying right now
Cosmotourist flight.
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katsy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-20-06 07:10 AM
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8. Are they going to the space station?
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mtnester Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-20-06 07:11 AM
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9. I thought I heard they were making a stopover
but I would not swear to that.
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lse7581011 Donating Member (948 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-20-06 07:32 AM
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13. The Russians Did Dock At The Space Station
according to this morning's news.
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tanyev Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-20-06 07:23 AM
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11. Co$motouri$t.
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mtnester Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-20-06 08:03 AM
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21. I thought that word was apt
Would I ever pay $20 million dollars to do it? No.
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Occulus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-20-06 03:26 PM
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33. Would I if I had $20 million to burn?
No. I'd probably find a way to build my own craft and go up whenever I wanted.
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Cooley Hurd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-20-06 07:08 AM
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6. Hopefully, it's nothing off the underside...
All in all, it's not good if your spacecraft is disintegrating...:(
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magellan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-20-06 07:09 AM
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7. Phasers would be handy right about now
Or failing that, the US military's new laser weapon.
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mtnester Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-20-06 07:13 AM
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10. Transporters too
I always wanted one of those, especially if I am a 2 hours drive from home and ate too much food and tomorrow is a work day and it is already 8:00 pm.
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magellan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-20-06 08:03 AM
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19. Beaming your particles around the place?
I dunno. Look at how dependable network connections are.

Heck, I'd be happy with my promised and long-overdue jet-pack!!
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RUMMYisFROSTED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-20-06 08:25 PM
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37. You don't have one yet?



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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-20-06 07:47 AM
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16. I think if something was smart enough
to find us and actually get here, we shouldn't need phasers.

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magellan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-20-06 07:59 AM
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17. Oh indubitably
But if something was smart enough to find us and get here, I don't think it would be dumb enough to let us get a fix on it! :)
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Occulus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-20-06 03:28 PM
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34. Yes, let's go around shooting things we can't identify.
How about we maneuver in close, send out the boom, and grab it for study instead?

Whatever it is. Cloth, marbles, a bag of frozen McChicken sandwiches. Who cares. What is it? How'd it get there? And such.

Science, man. What's them UFOs comin' 'round our ship?
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magellan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-20-06 08:08 PM
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36. We do it all the time on the ground
You know, the sanctity of life and all, except when a terra-rist might be lurking in the shadows. Then it's shoot first, avoid questions later.

It's undoubtedly a very good thing shuttles aren't armed.
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LeftHander Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-20-06 07:24 AM
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12. McDonalds's burger pod most likely...nt
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HereSince1628 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-20-06 07:32 AM
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14. Packing from in-between heat shield tiles?
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Freedom_from_Chains Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-20-06 08:02 AM
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18. American craftmanship is going to hell in a handbasket. n/t
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FSogol Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-20-06 08:03 AM
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20. We have polluted Space.
Cosmonaut Woodsy says, "Hoot-hoot, Don't Pollute"
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Drifter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-20-06 08:40 AM
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24. My guess is that ...
This shit floating around has always been there. It is only now that they are looking for/at this stuff in great details.

Cheers
Drifter
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reprobate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-20-06 09:26 AM
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26. Just when, oh when are we going to mothball this antiquated fleet of


patched together space junk and build a modern current technology manned orbital insertion vehicle?

Space flight is dangerous enough without subjecting the crews to the dangers of death from component failure that any antique like these are subject to after all the heat, compression and decompression, etc that they have been put thru for decades.

America, technological leader? Not any more. After all, science flies in the face of the true word of Gawd as expressed by his/her own hand in the Wholey Babble.
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HuffleClaw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-20-06 10:30 AM
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27. someone didn't put their legos away after playing?
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MaineDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-20-06 11:12 AM
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29. Cleared to land tomorrow
Shuttle program boss Wayne Hale says the management team has cleared Atlantis for entry tomorrow. No damage was found in today's inspections. Landing at Kennedy Space Center is targeted for 6:21 a.m. EDT.

http://spaceflightnow.com/shuttle/sts115/status.html
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Parche Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-20-06 02:51 PM
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30. space the final frontier
The 3objects found floating in space were, 'George Allen's Macaca' 'Lynne Cheneys used broomstick'
and last 'Dick Cheney's heart'
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sakabatou Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-20-06 03:26 PM
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32. Space junk.
It's everywhere.
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VegasWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-20-06 08:27 PM
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38. Just the empty beer cans. Things at NASA have gone downhill since Bush.
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