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RamboLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-18-06 08:28 PM
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WP: Surge in Anti-Muslim Incidents Reported (VA, MD, D.C. Top 10)
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/09/18/AR2006091800597.html

A national Muslim advocacy organization yesterday blamed a "negative and politically charged" environment on the Internet and talk radio for the 30 percent jump in anti-Muslim incidents reported to the group last year.

The Council on American-Islamic Relations received 1,972 complaints of harassment, violence and discriminatory treatment in 2005, up from 1,522 in 2004, according to an annual report released yesterday.

The number of complaints is the highest since CAIR began the report after the 1995 Oklahoma City bombing. The group said it received 2,300 complaints but deemed some of them illegitimate.

"We're seeing a rise in anti-Muslim rhetoric fed by the Internet and also on talk radio," CAIR spokesman Ibrahim Hooper said at a news conference. "You can't turn on the radio without hearing negative, bigoted comments about Islam."

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demnan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-18-06 08:32 PM
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1. And bloodshed only increases bloodshed
and hate increase hate.

We have to stop this now.
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Igel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-18-06 08:38 PM
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2. First, you don't issue a report and say you don't trust
your numbers. You clean up your numbers first, and then issue your report. They're releasing unexpurgated complaints: make a complaint, you're listed. No attempt to ascertain which complaints are well founded, which which are spurious. They should care, not CAIR, about the numbers.

As for the media, it's hard in the Arab world to turn on the radio and not hear negative, bigoted comments about Xianity and Judaism. Perhaps that would explain "the rise in anti-Xian rhetoric" we've seen in the last decade. Both sides should ratchet down the comments. But when CAIR folk go overseas, they complain on Arab talk shows about Xianity and Judaism, and say the US must quell such bigotry. Only in the US do they say both sides must calm down, which basically means just the US.

Don't like CAIR. Advocates aren't truth seekers, but truthiness producers.
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The Stranger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-19-06 09:59 AM
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4. To deny the anti-Muslim hate in the U.S. is disingenuous (at best).
First, you don't issue a report and say you don't trust your numbers. You clean up your numbers first, and then issue your report. They're releasing unexpurgated complaints: make a complaint, you're listed. No attempt to ascertain which complaints are well founded, which which are spurious. They should care, not CAIR, about the numbers.


Actually, you do record all complaints. You can let others draw their own conclusions about them, but you do record them. This is especially the case when the media does not report on incidents. When other minority groups are attacked, the media runs right to the scene. The wink and nod regarding Muslims is part of the hate inspired against them.

It is also important to be aware of the very real danger that those who actually support bigotry against Muslims may carp, criticize and minimize the actual complaints in an attempt to minimize and further alienate and ostracize Muslims. This makes those who are the victims of such incidents less likely to speak out. Certainly, this should be guarded against and not countenanced.

As for the media, it's hard in the Arab world to turn on the radio and not hear negative, bigoted comments about Xianity and Judaism. Perhaps that would explain "the rise in anti-Xian rhetoric" we've seen in the last decade. Both sides should ratchet down the comments. But when CAIR folk go overseas, they complain on Arab talk shows about Xianity and Judaism, and say the US must quell such bigotry. Only in the US do they say both sides must calm down, which basically means just the US.


It is true that everyone must stop the lying rhetoric. Glen Beck is on television 4 hours per day nearly non-stop calling for the mass murder of Muslims (often in the guise of "confronting terror" or supporting the "war on terror.") But some of those of whom you speak are backed by billions of dollars of corporate power as well as the nod from the Christian Fundamentalist Administration governing the U.S.

Massive conglomerates, such as Fox News, CNN, ABC and others are untouchable. They are also insulated by the millions of brainwashed religion-addicts sucking down the lies that they produce 24 hours every day. The monsters that CAIR is up against are far more powerful and far more difficult to reach than some desert television antenna broadcasting to desert sands in the Middle East.

Don't like CAIR. Advocates aren't truth seekers, but truthiness producers.


Thanks for the disclosure.
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geek tragedy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-19-06 09:35 AM
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3. CAIR isn't a credible source of information.
There very well may be a spike in bias crimes against Muslims, but CAIR is an extremist organization that masquerades as a moderate one. Which makes sense, given their close relationship with aWol.
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Scurrilous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-19-06 10:07 AM
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5. Surge in Anti-Muslim Incidents Reported
<snip>

"A national Muslim advocacy organization yesterday blamed a "negative and politically charged" environment on the Internet and talk radio for the 30 percent jump in anti-Muslim incidents reported to the group last year.

The Council on American-Islamic Relations received 1,972 complaints of harassment, violence and discriminatory treatment in 2005, up from 1,522 in 2004, according to an annual report released yesterday."

<snip>

"Mark Potok, a staff director with the Southern Poverty Law Center, a Montgomery, Ala.-based organization that tracks hate groups, said hate crime statistics are notoriously murky because they are self-reported. However, Potok said CAIR's accounting of anti-Muslim crimes seems "to be the best kind of work out there."

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/09/18/AR2006091800597.html
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Ravenseye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-19-06 10:13 AM
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6. Link?
Do you have a link to an article or some reference to how CAIR is an extremist organization masquerading as a moderate one?
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geek tragedy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-19-06 10:16 AM
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7. Sure.
Edited on Tue Sep-19-06 10:19 AM by geek tragedy
http://archive.salon.com/news/feature/2001/09/26/muslims/index.html

They are supporters of Sheikh Abdel Rahman--you know, the guy who tried to blow up the WTC in 1993.

http://archive.salon.com/news/letters/2001/10/01/cair/index1.html

"In fact, in 1996 CAIR published a book called "The Price of Ignorance" which dealt with the "status of Muslim civil rights in the United States." That book listed "incidents of anti-Muslim bias and violence," on which CAIR included the trial of Abdul-Rahman, which ended with his conviction for conspiring to blow up the Lincoln Tunnel and other New York City landmarks. CAIR listed the trial on that list of "incidents of bias and violence" because Abdul-Rahman's lawyers said that his trial had been "far from free and fair." "
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Ravenseye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-19-06 10:28 AM
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8. CAIR sort of reminds me of PETA
I love how the spokesman in his letter says that CAIR is one of the most widely supported muslim groups in the country. I'd be surprised if that even breaks single digits. Still they probably have a much wider number of people sho subscribe to their 'action alerts' or whatever they're called who have NO IDEA about the crazies up top.

Like I said. They remind me of PETA. They do some good things, and make some good points, but most people are unaware of the extremist ideas at the top.
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