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deadparrot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-17-06 02:54 PM
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Tenn. prisoner set for electrocution
NASHVILLE, Tenn. - If confessed murderer Daryl Keith Holton gets his way, on Tuesday he will become the first prisoner to die in Tennessee's electric chair in 46 years.

Holton, who confessed to murdering his three young sons and his ex-wife's daughter within hours of shooting them to death with a semiautomatic assault rifle, is scheduled to be executed because he quit appealing his death sentence. He also chose the electric chair over the state's preferred method of lethal injection.

Dorinda Carter, spokeswoman for the Tennessee Department of Correction, said even though the state has not used the electric chair to carry out an execution in decades, staff members at the Riverbend Maximum Security Institution in Nashville are trained in using the chair and ready to carry out the execution.

From 1916 until 1960, 125 people were executed by electrocution in Tennessee. In 2000, lethal injection replaced electrocution as the primary method of execution, according to the Department of Correction.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060917/ap_on_re_us/tennessee_execution
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Freedom_from_Chains Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-17-06 02:58 PM
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1. O.K. I'll bite, why does this guy want to fry instead of going to sleep
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-17-06 04:43 PM
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9. Why are we letting him choose
The Constitution doesn't say cruel and unusual if the victim agrees to it. If that were the case, we'd have had a long line of cops saying that suspects asked to be beaten (surprised we don't actually). Is somebody in Tennessee gleefully rubbing their hands at the prospect of getting to fry someone? Ooo boy, light up the grill meema, we're bringin' old sparky out of retirement! Yeeha!!

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jmowreader Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-17-06 04:45 PM
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11. Given the choice, I'd fry too
Assuming they whack you with enough electricity, you die in seconds after they switch you on.

Lethal injection's a different story...WAY too many people have come out of the anesthetic they give you as the first drug...while the second drug, which stops your breathing, is working. That shit takes several minutes to do its job, and from what I've heard it's a painful drug to have in your system. Think about that poor asshole they injected in Ohio--the one who turned his head and yelled at the execution team, "this isn't working."

This is kind of a neat editorial written many years ago by the man who invented the electric chair...

We are living in an age of the world's history which requires every individual to live in obedience to
"law and order" established by civilized governments. The laws of any country which have for their object
the correction and regulation of human action and to determine between the right and the wrong are
progressive in their nature, like other institutions of the world. France has taken the lead among nations by abolishing the death sentence -- the most barbarous of all laws -- be it ever said to her credit!

I have always leaned toward the side of that justice which demands that capital punishment be abolished. I have, however, fathered electrocution as the most humane method of execution, and this method has become the law of several states. This mode of legal execution was brought forward by me owning to the fact that it is the quickest and most certain of all death penalties. Nevertheless I am for the banishment of this most barbarous practice. This relic of the dark ages is one of the evils afflicting the enlightened civilized nations of the present era.

In reality capital punishment is only legalized murder. Justice does not go with human passions, and a perfectly dispassionate and unbiased judgment is a myth. The chief aim with a true surgeon is to save a limb, not take it off. So it should be with the state.

The making of a man and citizen is a tremendous undertaking, and so long as the law acts not as a protector and developer of childhood and youth into manhood, saving it from the lurking and insidious foes to heath and virtues that are the true menace of our civilization, so long criminals and murderers will be made by the very law that later steps in to condemn them.

The state is inflicting capital punishment upon a murderer is like the false mother in the judgment of Solomon -- she prefers a dead son to a son whom she can reclaim by justice seasoned with mercy. The true mother should redeem the criminal by keeping him out of harm's way, while at the same time promoting his moral and spiritual welfare and making him by proper punishment and suitable work a useful though restricted member of the State.

If capital punishment were abolished, would murderers suffer any less, since they would receive not only the punishment still open to infliction by the law but also the retribution? In Thibet, for the citizens of which we feel so great a ontempt, there is a reverence for that very principle of life that our civilization might do well to follow in many respects, and when where, if there are willing to suffer from the inroads of vermin, at least every man's life is sacred to the law that created him.

The true scientific solution of the difficulty is to redeem the murderer, like other criminals, and to give him a change to work out his salvation on principles dependent upon a true civilization, rather than that bequeathed to us from the middle ages.

When we can produce Life let us take it; until then let us utilize the punishment of criminals for the benefit of the state. As Walpole said, "The worst use to which you can put a man is to hang him."

The greatest argument against capital punishment is that the principle of life must not be violated. The law of justice is unquestionable a life for a life. Yet the active principle of life is so beautiful a fact, so mysterious, so baffling in all its workings, so insoluble even to science -- that
is so profoundly bent upon concealing it -- that the scientist confronted with this problem must cry out "Do not destroy that beauty which it is our despair to solve; hold your sacrilegious hands from the crime of destroying that which you cannot restore and which you cannot even understand." It is true that the murderer, sending out of this world a human being in the vigor of life "with all his imperfections on his head," challenges and deserves justice; and there it was that in distant ages the crude ideas of barbarism could find no better solution of the problem than by taking, with all possible tortures, the life of the murderer. Civilization in the course of time gave him a chance for life by instituting a trial before "a jury of his peers." And our so-called civilization has found no improvement upon this system.

France, foremost, calls the halt to capital punishment. The American nation cannot help but follow this lead.
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acmavm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-17-06 03:02 PM
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2. The man knew what he did was wrong. Even if he was suffering from
PSTD and depression, the fact that he walked into a police station and confessed to killing four children and then went looking for his ex-wife and her boyfriend (which was probably the real problem but who knows)he knew when he shot those kids to death that it was wrong.

I can't imagine that he's not suffering now. I imagine he never stops thinking about what he did. But I am just so conflicted on the death penalty. I'll have to think about this a while longer.
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Botany Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-17-06 03:17 PM
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3. Go ahead and call me blood thirsty bastard ..... kill him
"A 44-year-old man, convicted six years ago and condemned to die
June 8 for killing his four children, ..... "

http://www.t-g.com/story/1096792.html

The rest of the crime is too horrible to print. Read about @ the link.

And yes, I know that it will not stop future murders and that it costs more
to execute somebody then to keep him in prison for life but he killed his own
kids .... no sympathy from me.
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seriousstan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-17-06 03:29 PM
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4. It doesn't cost more to execute somebody then to keep him in prison
if fools don't prolong the process.
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NOLADEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-17-06 05:48 PM
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13. Ah yes, the silly fools who demand justice has been served
before killing someone....

What, like those silly fools at the Innocence Project who have freed numerous people from death row after finding irrefutable DNA evidence?

In Illinois, they found exculpatory evidence in over 10% of those on death row. Imagine how many more weren't lucky enough to have irrefutable exculpatory evidence present to be tested who are still innocent.

I, for one, would rather we be sure at any cost that no innocent is executed than worry about getting costs down to get the cost of state sanctioned murder below the cost of life imprisonment so that some reactionary knuckle-draggers have one less pesky fact to argue that exposes their pointless barbarity.

We share company with such countries as China, Korea, Saudi Arabia, Pakistan and a few others in executing our own citizens. Nice company we are keeping.
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wicket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-18-06 07:15 AM
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24. Thank-you for mentioning the Innocence Project
The law firm I used to work for did some work for them. A fantastic organization- gives me hope.
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-17-06 03:34 PM
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5. This guy wants to die.His hell would be to make him live as long as possi
ble.
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seriousstan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-17-06 04:21 PM
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7. So you are all about revenge and punishment. Fine, let's torture him.
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krispos42 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-18-06 01:26 AM
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19. No, it's about erasing him from society permanately
I don't want this punk up for parole. I don't want him finding Jesus or Muhammad. I don't want him writing books. I don't want him writing letters. I don't want him to be the focus of academic papers.

Another reason why I'm quite happy Tim McVeigh is dead and gone. No manifestos, no religions conversions, no books, no media interviews. Just silence, blissful silence.
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951-Riverside Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-17-06 05:25 PM
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12. If he deserves to die give Andrea Yates the juice too.
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Henny Penny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-17-06 05:55 PM
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14. Murder is murder whether it is done by this guy in Tenn.
or whether its done by the state.

And people who support the death penalty are stuck in the dark ages.
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Freedom_from_Chains Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-17-06 10:32 PM
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16. O.K. You blood thirsty bastard.
Edited on Sun Sep-17-06 10:33 PM by Freedom_from_Chains
and your mama wore army boots. (Just for good measure)
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-17-06 03:37 PM
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6. I hope Percy from the GREEN MILE not gonna be there with the dry sponge
Why he is going to die is another matter

How he is going down...his choice...I hope its quick...Wish him well in the afterlife/next world/realm
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seriousstan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-17-06 04:30 PM
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8. No, I hope he burns in hell for all eternity.
Wish him well in the afterlife/next world/realm??
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-18-06 02:03 AM
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20. I wuz told peeps often come back as animals, birds, insects/ etc
Does his sins in this life follow? Jus askin....
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Tom Yossarian Joad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-17-06 04:45 PM
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10. America and the cretins that inhabit it are still clinging to 12th c.
models rather than 21stc...

This country's inhabited by barbarians. It will spell the eventual destruction of it.
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Puglover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-18-06 06:49 AM
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21. I agree with you Tom as usual.
I is always amazing to me how death penalty threads bring out the so called "progressives" on DU.
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NaturalHigh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-17-06 06:14 PM
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15. We all have to go sometime.
If he's stupid enough to choose the chair, more power to him.
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krispos42 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-18-06 01:15 AM
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18. Helluva pun, there, Sparky
lmao

I personally would like a ring of C4 around my neck set to go off at a time unbeknown to me.

On another note, a previous poster notes that a certain percentage of people on death row are in fact innocent and have been released upon things like DNA evidence.

This is troubling because, if true, then there are tens or hundreds of thousands of people in jail who have been wrongfully convicted, and nobody notices unless they are on death row.
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lynne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-17-06 11:18 PM
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17. He killed the children. He confessed. He quit his appeals.
And he chose the electric chair. This man is obviously ready for death. In fact, it sounds as though he's begging for it.

Some consider it humane to allow a terminally ill patient to end their life if they choose to do so. I think that the same should be allowed here and that he be able to choose how he wishes his life to end.

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RangerSmith Donating Member (488 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-18-06 07:08 AM
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23. I agree with you about the first part.
I'm not sure I would always agree that the convicted should have a choice in how he dies although in this case I'd be inclined to fulfill his wish.

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saigon68 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-18-06 06:54 AM
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22. Lots of love on this thread
</sarcasm>
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