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cyberpj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-15-06 08:13 AM
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Senate Judiciary Committee approves Big Brother bills
Edited on Fri Sep-15-06 08:40 AM by cyberpj
Senate Judiciary Committee approves Big Brother bills
9/14/2006 6:26:37 PM, by Ryan Paul

The Senate Judiciary Committee has approved two competing bills designed to overhaul electronic surveillance laws and address the legal ambiguity of the NSA's wiretap program. One of those bills, the National Security Surveillance Act (S.B. 2453), would legitimize the NSA's controversial domestic surveillance activity, and thwart current efforts by the EFF and ACLU to challenge the legality of the program in court.

Authorized by an executive order signed by President Bush in 2002, the extralegal spying program enables the NSA to engage in covert domestic surveillance of American citizens and foreign nationals. Revealed to the public last year by the New York Times, the NSA's controversial program has become the subject of contentious debate. After the Senate decided not to pursue an inquiry into the program at the insistence of vice president Cheney, the EFF and several other organizations filed suits against the government and the telecommunications companies that facilitated the program. The federal government tried to crush the litigation by invoking the state secrets privilege. Although the ACLU's case was dismissed, Judge Vaughn Walker rejected the state secrets argument, and decided to permit the EFF to pursue it's case against AT&T. The Al-Haramain Islamic Foundation lawsuit against the NSA was also permitted. Characterizing the program as unconstitutional, Judge Anna Diggs Taylor ordered the NSA to halt unwarranted surveillance activity earlier this month.

Sponsored by Senator Arlen Specter and described as a "compromise" with the White House, S.B. 2453 radically redefines surveillance, dramatically expands the power of the executive branch, substantially weakens fourth amendment protections, and imposes limitations on judicial and congressional oversight to an extent that critics (including myself) claim is antithetical to the Separation of Powers doctrine and the American system of checks and balances.

If passed, S.B. 2453 would legalize the NSA's current domestic spying activity, and permit the government to establish entire electronic surveillance programs with a single FISA warrant. The bill would also change the definition of surveillance to allow the government to intercept "dialing, routing, addressing, or signaling" data from purely domestic electronic communications without requiring a warrant. In essence, the government would be free to compile massive databases that track the source and destination of practically all domestic e-mail messages and phone calls as well as the web browsing habits of American citizens. The bill further expands the NSA program by permitting interception of the content and substance of purely domestic communications in cases where one party is located on "property or premises under the open and exclusive control of a foreign power," enabling interception of messages sent to or from foreign embassies located in America.

more... (if you can stand it)
http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20060914-7751.html

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acmejack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-15-06 08:16 AM
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1. Goodbye America...
Hello AmeriKa
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-15-06 08:16 AM
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2. "dramatically expands the power of the executive branch" they caved
to the wishes of the WH. Simple as that.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-15-06 08:22 AM
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3. "Authorized by an executive order signed by President Bush in 2002",,


Says it all folks, Now Congress forgives his past transgression and says OK to the future. No penalities, no accoutability.
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cyberpj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-15-06 08:33 AM
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4. Committee Members - Write to them - AND your Congresscritters NOW.
Edited on Fri Sep-15-06 08:37 AM by cyberpj
Wonder when they actually held any vote - since this was posted on the site:

NOTICE OF COMMITTEE HEARING CANCELLATION
The hearing on "Intelligence Information Sharing" scheduled by the Senate Committee on the Judiciary for Wednesday, September 13, 2006 at 9:30 a.m. in Room 226 of the Senate Dirksen Office Building has been cancelled.
By order of the Chairman

Here are the Members and a link:
(Anyone know how we can find out how each one voted?)

MEMBERS

Arlen Specter
CHAIRMAN, PENNSYLVANIA

Orrin G. Hatch
UTAH

Charles E. Grassley
IOWA

Jon Kyl
ARIZONA

Mike DeWine
OHIO

Jeff Sessions
ALABAMA

Lindsey Graham
SOUTH CAROLINA

John Cornyn
TEXAS

Sam Brownback
KANSAS

Tom Coburn
OKLAHOMA

Patrick J. Leahy
RANKING DEMOCRATIC MEMBER, VERMONT

Edward M. Kennedy
MASSACHUSETTS

Joseph R. Biden, Jr.
DELAWARE

Herbert Kohl
WISCONSIN

Dianne Feinstein
CALIFORNIA

Russell D. Feingold
WISCONSIN

Charles E. Schumer
NEW YORK

Richard J. Durbin
ILLINOIS

http://judiciary.senate.gov/members.cfm

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Dover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-15-06 09:43 AM
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5. This should be front page of every newspaper in the country.
But alas I dream. But it should be on every activists agenda. Thanks for the Congressional links.
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cyberpj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-15-06 11:11 AM
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6. Hey, it's not even getting that many hits here (yet). Nominate?
Edited on Fri Sep-15-06 11:17 AM by cyberpj
I fear even lots of us here at DU are getting distracted and spending our energy on some lesser issues.

It's probably a normal human trait but we need to fight it.

Having been here for a while, it feels to me as if we're getting really scattered and less focused.

Of course, I realize that means we're also forced to fight too many issues on our own!





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keepCAblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-15-06 11:24 AM
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7. Nominated. But geesh, I'm the only one so far
If DU'ers are this apathetic, there's even less hope for the rest of America taking any notice (let alone, action.)
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earth mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-15-06 12:36 PM
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8. K & R! Goddamn those bastards!!!
:grr:
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many a good man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-15-06 12:47 PM
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9. We can't let these bills even hit the floor for a vote
We must block or filibuster every one of the administration's "security" bills until the new Congress can be convened in January. This is too important to get railroaded through, not to mention unconstitutional.

Call your Senator today and demand a filibuster. What's happening on the House side?
:kick:
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Straight Shooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-15-06 01:04 PM
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10. This is Nixon's wet dream fantasy.
Try to imagine how effective the power hold will be when the bush administration is finally given free rein to tap anybody, anywhere, any time.

America is no longer at the edge of the abyss. We are sliding in at an accelerated pace.

Specter is SCUM.
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mopinko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-15-06 01:09 PM
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11. fwiw, harry reid swears this has no chance
he was quoted the other day saying there was no way this was coming to the floor at all.
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tex-wyo-dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-15-06 01:26 PM
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12. If this makes it to the floor, Dems had better filibuster this...
like nothing's been filibustered before.

The powder ain't getting any dryer.
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cyberpj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-15-06 01:44 PM
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13. WHO VOTED HOW? I can't seem to find that out. Here are members:
By a 10-8 vote, the Senate Judiciary Committee approved SB2453, the National Security Surveillance Act

Here are the Members and a link. I can't seem to find out who voted how on this:

MEMBERS

Arlen Specter
CHAIRMAN, PENNSYLVANIA

Orrin G. Hatch
UTAH

Charles E. Grassley
IOWA

Jon Kyl
ARIZONA

Mike DeWine
OHIO

Jeff Sessions
ALABAMA

Lindsey Graham
SOUTH CAROLINA

John Cornyn
TEXAS

Sam Brownback
KANSAS

Tom Coburn
OKLAHOMA

Patrick J. Leahy
RANKING DEMOCRATIC MEMBER, VERMONT

Edward M. Kennedy
MASSACHUSETTS

Joseph R. Biden, Jr.
DELAWARE

Herbert Kohl
WISCONSIN

Dianne Feinstein
CALIFORNIA

Russell D. Feingold
WISCONSIN

Charles E. Schumer
NEW YORK

Richard J. Durbin
ILLINOIS
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nashville_brook Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-15-06 01:54 PM
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14. total information awareness. promis. echelon.
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lala_rawraw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-15-06 02:00 PM
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15. it won't pass, don't worry... if there was ever a fil. to be used...
this bill is it... dems won't let this, and more than just feingold.
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cyberpj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-15-06 07:04 PM
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16. SEE HERE NOW: Conflicting Bills on Warrantless Surveillance Advance
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GetTheRightVote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-15-06 08:33 PM
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17. This had better not go down or it is over for us all, no freedom !!
:kick:
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