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RamboLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-11-06 01:30 PM
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Clinton, most Americans, skip ABC's 9/11 miniseries
http://www.cnn.com/2006/SHOWBIZ/TV/09/11/abc.miniseries.ap/index.html

Editing changes made by ABC to the first part of its miniseries "The Path to 9/11" were cosmetic and didn't change the meaning of scenes that had angered several former Clinton administration officials, a spokesman for the former president said Monday.

As for Clinton, he didn't bother watching the movie that angered so many people who once worked for him.

"He made the choice that most Americans made," said Jay Carson, Clinton Foundation spokesman. "Of a fictionalized drama version of September 11 or the Manning brothers playing football against one another, he chose the latter." (Watch Bill Clinton and Harvey Keitel express concerns about accuracy -- 3:07)

The movie was flattened in the ratings by the debut of NBC's Sunday night football, matching Peyton Manning of the Indianapolis Colts against his younger brother Eli of the New York Giants. The football game had an estimated 20.7 million viewers, while "The Path to 9/11" had 13 million, according to Nielsen Media Research.

The ABC movie did, however, beat CBS' third airing of its "9/11" documentary, which was seen by an estimated 10.6 million people, Nielsen said.

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The Deacon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-11-06 01:34 PM
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1. "To The Dead, We Owe Only Truth."
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Riddler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-11-06 02:08 PM
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8. And I'll bet anything that at least 12.9 of those 13 million....
voted for * in 2000 and in 2004, and are still convinced Saddam planned and executed 9-11. Some people are just dumb as dirt.
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Freedom_from_Chains Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-11-06 02:51 PM
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14. That was my thought also
These are the people who already don't know their ass from a hole in the ground so it really doesn't matter.
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damntexdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-11-06 04:53 PM
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20. But I'm surprised that that many of them ...
skipped Sunday Night Football. Wow, the NFL is failing at its job! ;-)

I watched the game until the officials spoiled a good, close game late.
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warrens Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-11-06 04:55 PM
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21. Not dumb, evil
They're not stupid in the usual sense. They're just mean-spirited, nasty people who respond to the nastiest, most mean-spirited punk ever to run for the office.
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eccles12 Donating Member (385 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-11-06 05:29 PM
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26. Lots of people hate to admit that they were wrong and won't. nt
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BootinUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-11-06 01:35 PM
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2. So ~ 10 percent of voters saw it, if that much.
Edited on Mon Sep-11-06 02:26 PM by Jim4Wes
More than I thought would watch it.

Edited for really poor math.
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Jimbo S Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-11-06 02:11 PM
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9. 1% or 10%?
110 million voters in the last Presidential election.
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BootinUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-11-06 02:25 PM
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11. hmmm decimal places are important
I was quite in error. I was predicting on the order of 1% yesterday. 10% is significant. But how many of those are voters do you estimate?
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Jimbo S Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-11-06 03:46 PM
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19. Maybe a third?
So maybe 4% of the electorate watched?

I didn't watch, I had laundry to do.
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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-11-06 01:43 PM
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3. We watched The Simpsons
and American Dad... Not being a football fan. Good to see the ratings were so low.
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-11-06 01:48 PM
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4. Well, it was on opposite the Simpsons, so OF COURSE the ratings were low!
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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-11-06 01:53 PM
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6. You know it!
The Simpsons' writers always manage to throw in a Bush bash too... so highly entertaining!
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Tempest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-11-06 01:49 PM
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5. The third showing of a CBS special almost beat it out
That says a lot.
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-11-06 01:59 PM
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7. I recorded it, watched 20 minutes, and then deleted it.
Edited on Mon Sep-11-06 01:59 PM by AtomicKitten
As I posted elsewhere on DU, the acting was atrocious, the camera work a bad imitation of Traffic, and the script culled directly from wingnut talking points.

In 20 minutes, the "I couldn't get clearance from upstairs" meme had worn itself anorexic.

It was truly a crapudrama.
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liberal N proud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-11-06 02:17 PM
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10. More than 10 million people watched lies of the bu$h regime
How many bought it as the truth?
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DeeDeeNY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-11-06 02:53 PM
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15. Too many people
did buy it as the truth, because they are not even aware of the behind the scenes protests this past week.
The news articles I've seen don't mention much beyond that it's just Clinton speaking out against this and
implying more that he's just whining because he was not being shown in a good enough light.

The actor who plays Richard Clarke (Stephen Root) was quoted in my newspaper's TV
listings booklet as saying "This educated me tremendously. . .The Clinton administration screwed
up. The Bush administration screwed up. . ." The reviewer then goes on to say "The docudrama is based
on "intrepid reporting" and is accurate.

At least his quote shows that he realizes Bush screwed up too, but then the rationalization is
always there that they were therefore both somehow equally guilty.
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Miss Chybil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-11-06 02:44 PM
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12. Watched CBS's "9/11" nt
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EnviroBat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-11-06 02:45 PM
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13. Won't Monday Night Foot-Brawl crush it even worst tonight?
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Ediacara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-11-06 03:04 PM
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17. I think so
Especially if those 13M people were as put off by the bad acting and camera work as reviewers seem to suggest.
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-11-06 03:16 PM
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18. In Washington it certainly will. We've got our team on the field and ...
in the booth.

Go Tony K!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-11-06 03:01 PM
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16. The CBS documentary was a rerun. But a magnificent one.
Certainly not the anaesthetic of football.
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leQ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-11-06 05:00 PM
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22. i think the only reason cbs came in last was due to their shifting
the start times of everything after their afteroon sports orgy (was it tennis?). 60 minutes started about :30 late.
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Sapere aude Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-11-06 05:01 PM
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23. 43 million out of 180 million watched these things.
Edited on Mon Sep-11-06 05:07 PM by Sapere aude
57 million were having sex, 10 million were attending worship services, 9 million were driving around in motor homes looking for someplace to go that they haven't visited yet. 30 million were doing some kind of arts and crafts or some workout, yoga or mental relaxation techniques. 3 million were meditating and 2 million were out walking the dog. .5 million were tagging the local walls and rail cars and .1 million were committing other crimes. All the rest were either asleep, driving on the 405, working or doing something else.
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agio Donating Member (95 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-11-06 05:23 PM
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24. Here in Canada
today is more or less just another day. The English newspaper had a cover story about the anniversary, but not the main story.

I don't know what they are showing on TV, as I don't have one to watch.

As an American expat, it seems odd for the anniversary to pass by without comment, but to be honest I'm kind of grateful for it.
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leQ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-11-06 05:29 PM
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25. if anybody thinks abc is a liberal mouthpiece
explain why they have geraldo interviewing annthrax coulter on a date that should be spent unifying the country?
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pinerow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-11-06 05:42 PM
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27. Football Rules Sunday night ratings
NBC's new "Sunday Night Football," featuring the hyped matchup of quarterback Peyton Manning against little brother Eli Manning, drew a much bigger audience than part one of ABC's controversial miniseries "The Path to 9/11." The game also beat CBS's "9/11" movie.


http://www.tvweek.com/news.cms?newsId=10706
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bamacrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-11-06 05:42 PM
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28. Good to hear that, I did my part.
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tinymontgomery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-11-06 05:42 PM
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29. Did my part
watched "scary movie 2 and 3" much more entertaining then the 911 trash.
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saigon68 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-11-06 05:42 PM
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30. When young immature men from the backwoods are Blown to BITS
FOR OIL AND HALLIBURTON.

The general Public could give a FUCK

THEY CARE MORE WHEN THE TRAMP DOWN THE STREET GETS AN ABORTION
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Tempest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-11-06 05:42 PM
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31. CBS' THIRD showing of the movie almost beat ABC's propaganda
The third showing of CBS' show had 10 million viewers, ABC's rightwing propaganda had 13 million viewers.
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damntexdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-11-06 05:42 PM
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32. Yeah, I just couldn't bring myself to watch the minipropagandaseries.
I had intended to. Instead, I switched to the NFL game. But when an official blew a replay call at an exciting moment near the end (in a two-point game), resulting in a desperation pass that turned into an interception on the next play, I said "OK, the officials have ruined this one" and switched to NPR.
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leQ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-11-06 05:43 PM
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33. i watched it, just to see what all the fuss was about
i'm mixed about whether they treated it with fairness or not. of course i went into it expecting a smear job ala swift boats, but i didn't get that. allbright was portrayed as some wild boar. but i did come away with it feeling that it demonstrated how much effort was put into tracking down osama, and i thought, gee, had they kept that momentum, there woudn't have ever been a 9/11. so what the hell happened?

bush happened. i know.
but damn if they continue to cry ignorance after this.
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Joey Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-11-06 05:43 PM
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34. Did my part too! n/t
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demo dutch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-11-06 06:40 PM
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35. I watched Koppel on Discovery instead
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rumpel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-12-06 01:35 AM
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I did, too
and it was interesting - reminded me of how media was before -
and it's only a few years back

the usual suspects in his panel were still spewing falsehoods and spin
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rumpel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-12-06 01:35 AM
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36. I did, too
and it was interesting - reminded me of how media was before -
and it's only a few years back

the usual suspects in his panel were still spewing falsehoods and spin
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-12-06 02:39 AM
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37. I predict they will re-air it next month on a non-football night
...probably close to the election..

They have no scruples, and they might as well re-air it, since most people "missed" it this time around :grr:

and I also predict that it will make the rounds on their cable channels, on a regualt basis..(kind of like how CNN trots out "Flyboy" all the time):puke:
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