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sabra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-11-06 12:20 PM
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CIA: 5,000 Terrorists Captured or Killed

http://blogs.abcnews.com/theblotter/2006/09/cia_5000_terror.html

CIA: 5,000 Terrorists Captured or Killed

More than 5,000 terrorists have been captured or killed in the five years since the 9/ll attacks, CIA director Gen. Michael Hayden said today.

Hayden's remarks were made in a videotape statement distributed to CIA employees around the world.

Hayden called the 9/ll attacks "an unforgettable blow" from a "plot we had not been able to prevent."

Since then, he said, "Al-Qa'ida's core operational leadership has been decimated, and their
successors are in hiding or on the run."


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The_Casual_Observer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-11-06 12:22 PM
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1. "Al-Qa'ida's core operational leadership has been decimated"
This is a lie.
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orwell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-11-06 12:23 PM
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2. "Since then," he said, ...
"Al-Qa'ida's core operational leadership has been decimated..."

Except for the leaders who still work at Langely...
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eccles12 Donating Member (385 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-11-06 12:24 PM
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3. That should be "5000 SUSPECTED tererorists
I am sure at least 3000 of those people were innocent civilians.
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file83 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-11-06 12:24 PM
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4. So, let's see....the War on Terror has cost $400 billion so far...
...divide by 5000 terrorists....carry the 1....

That's only $80 MILLION per terrorist!

Great, by the time we're done with this war, we should all be living in the stone age.
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endarkenment Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-11-06 12:38 PM
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11. Can I just think about being a terrorist and get 40M?
I will then renounce all future thoughts along that line. Think of the savings. The deficit could be down to nothing in no time.
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file83 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-11-06 12:42 PM
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13. Hmmm....you may be on to something there!
:rofl:
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leQ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-11-06 04:45 PM
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25. where did you get the 400 billion dollar mark? (n/t)
Edited on Mon Sep-11-06 04:46 PM by leQ
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file83 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-12-06 01:47 AM
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28. From God. Do you have a more credible source?
Edited on Tue Sep-12-06 01:47 AM by file83
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liberal N proud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-11-06 12:24 PM
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5. How many of them were mere civilians...
with no ties to any terrorist organization. They just included them in the count because they have Islamic sounding names?

I believe those numbers about as much as I believe that bu$h has a brain
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BattyDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-11-06 12:26 PM
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6. "Al-Qa'ida's core operational leadership ... "
"... has been decimated, and their successors are in hiding or on the run."

If this is true, why can't I bring a bottle of water on an airplane? :eyes:

5,000 captured or killed ... yet we'll never know their names, their crimes or their fate - which means there's no way to know if they ever really existed.
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havocmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-11-06 12:28 PM
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7. 'terrorists' by whose defination? Hayden's?
The man has zero credibility. He is a junta whore.
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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-11-06 12:32 PM
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8. Rocknation: 50 MILLION terrorists recruited or created
:(
rocknation
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Drum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-11-06 12:34 PM
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9. Drum: "Bullshit." n/t
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OneBlueSky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-11-06 02:58 PM
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19. what you said . . . n/t
.
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Kelvin Mace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-11-06 12:38 PM
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10. And 50 million Viet Cong were killed
we expect victory over North Vietnam any day now.
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leftyladyfrommo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-11-06 12:42 PM
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12. I don't believe this number at all - and how many thousands more
have we created? Probably another 50,000 new ones.
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Roy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-11-06 12:53 PM
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16. They don't keep count, but when polls are low and majority..
status at risk. Now they just happen to have a total handy?
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theophilus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-11-06 12:45 PM
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14. 50,000 Terrorists created n/t
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Roy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-11-06 12:50 PM
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15. That number seems a bit low......
unless it doesn't include wedding parties....
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kurtyboy Donating Member (968 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-11-06 12:55 PM
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17. 3,379 Coalition casualties since 911--
Edited on Mon Sep-11-06 01:33 PM by kurtyboy
We're trading life for life--unless you do the resonable thing and count the thousands of innocents killed as well--then the cost for each dead terrorist comes to at least 20 innocent lives....probably closer to 50.

"Oh gee, thanks Dave, bang-up job so far. Extortion, coercion; you'll pardon me if I ask you to kiss my pucker." Verbal Kint in The Usual Suspects.

Osama bin Laden IS Kaiser Soze



ON EDIT:

Crap--Gen Hayden said "captured or killed." The stats are even worse if we assume that (properly, I think) that many of the captured or killed are innocent of terrorism. Is that all there is? After five years?

This is what justified Iraq? Afghanistan? Soon, Iran? 5000 terrorists?

Even if we grant every argument made for the Iraq invasion (and I do NOT), can it possibly be justified by 5,000 loosely associated individuals with a beef against the United States?

Just as I thought my cynicism had reached bottom....
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yojon Donating Member (419 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-11-06 02:14 PM
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18. Just 5000?
Oh no.... he is being too modest! Really! Really!! More like 50000. Or maybe 500,000. Or 5,000,000?
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coalition_unwilling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-11-06 03:05 PM
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21. We killed 2-3 million Southeast Asian "terrrorists" during the
Vietnam decades.
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coalition_unwilling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-11-06 03:02 PM
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20. LIAR! 4,750 of them were terrorists disguised as children. Whatever.
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MrPrax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-11-06 03:32 PM
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22. Doubleplusgood...!!! n/t
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stepnw1f Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-11-06 03:48 PM
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23. Prove They were all Terrorists.... exactly
nice try ABC
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bamacrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-11-06 04:38 PM
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24. Yeah and 50,000 Iraqi civilians too.
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maxsolomon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-11-06 05:36 PM
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26. don't you have to DO terror to be a terrorist?
perhaps 5000 "jihadis" or "al quaeda operatives" or "pissed off unemployed muslim guys" would be a better phrase...
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catnhatnh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-11-06 06:09 PM
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27. General Hayden has men under his control...
...that,if he is to be believed, have presented this to him. Therefore I call for a full accounting-number in custody,and for terrorists killed,name, date ,and geographic area they were killed...for those killed by American forces, I want to hear which unit claims the kill and how each was authenticated as a terrorist....this is stuff normally in any units after action reports, so although the information will be lengthy it should be readily available...General???
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leesa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-12-06 08:18 AM
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29. Oh really. Have any of those allegations been proved? Of course not.
Friggin liars. Thousands of taxi cab drivers locked up for drivimg while Arab.
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