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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 02:27 PM
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Brad Pitt: I'll marry when everyone can
Look this will probably drop like a stone anyway but I do think this is LBN and I think that someone high profile keeping this issue going is important.


http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060908/ap_en_mo/people_brad_pitt

NEW YORK - Brad Pitt, ever the social activist, says he won't be marrying Angelina Jolie until the restrictions on who can marry whom are dropped.

"Angie and I will consider tying the knot when everyone else in the country who wants to be married is legally able," the 42-year-old actor reveals in Esquire magazine's October issue, on newsstands Sept. 19.

Though Shiloh, the world-famous daughter of Pitt and girlfriend/earth mother Angelina Jolie, hogged much attention upon her birth in May, Pitt says he "cannot imagine life" without adopted children, Maddox, 5, and Zahara, 1.

"I feel it's really important to have that time to sit and talk to them," he continues. "I really like that last minute before they fade off. And always give them a heads-up before you jerk them out of something. You need to tell them, like, `You have three more minutes.'"

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TallahasseeGrannie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 02:29 PM
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1. That is kind of interesting
and I guess they won't be getting married anytime soon.
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RangerSmith Donating Member (488 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 02:32 PM
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4. Makes me think
Brad is trying to avoid it! lol
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 02:40 PM
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16. Or SHE is
Funny thing about escaping a bad marriage, it made a lot of us gun shy.

And a gun to my head would be the only way I'd ever do it again.
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 02:33 PM
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7. 20 years
just like the rest of the progressive movements in this country despite well funded and ravenous campaigns against them all of our ideas have become the norm. The crowd so fervently against "gay marriage" now is basically the same crowd that was against the civil rights movement and when that failed they tried to outlaw interracial marriage and when that failed they tried to make interracial marriage a taboo and that has slowly become more acceptable (slowly)...give this time the same thing will happen.
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TallahasseeGrannie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 02:45 PM
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25. That sounds about right to me.
"The mills of the gods grind slowly but exceedingly fine."

Or something like that!
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krispos42 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-09-06 03:02 PM
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93. Might take longer than you think
Many states have or are trying to put gay marriage bans in their Constitutions via amendments. When that happens, the process of making gay marriage legal first requires repealing the offending amendment, which is much harder than simply getting the legislature to allow it.

In states with the constitutional bans, expect to add 4 or 5 decades to the fight. Just a gut feeling...
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sabra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 02:30 PM
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2. thanks for the post!
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MuseRider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 02:32 PM
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3. Nice.
I like that attitude. Did not Charlize Theron say something similar? Whatever, I like this. Sounds fair to me.
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closeupready Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 02:44 PM
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23. Yes, she did.
I loved her anyway, but that was icing on the cake when she said that she and Stuart Townsend would not tie the knot until gays could do it, too.
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Change has come Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 02:32 PM
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5. Interesting...Thanks
K&R
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tridim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 02:32 PM
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6. Brad's a good guy
Maybe not all that intelligent, but good nonetheless.
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breakaleg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 02:34 PM
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8. I don't buy it.
He was married before, and there are so many rumors that Angie is the one who is refusing. I don't think he's changed his attitude towards marriage.
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pitohui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-09-06 12:25 AM
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81. well angelina is the leader in this relationship i'm guessing
but what's wrong w. that?

he knew she was an activist when he got involved w. her and if it's raising his awareness i think it's terrific

i think it's cool that a strong woman can influence a strong man, we usually see it the other way round
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Ediacara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-09-06 04:01 PM
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95. Maybe dating a bisexual woman has opened his eyes and changed his mind?
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fleabert Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-10-06 11:59 AM
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105. people learn from their partners.
i don't care what he thinks in his own head, as long as he keeps his very quotable mouth moving in the right direction for everyone to hear this message.

Kudos to brad for evolving.

I told my husband that if we were not married already (been almost 7 yrs) I would refuse on principle. I just wasn't aware 7 years ago of all the intricacies in legal marriage and how basically wrong it is that all citizens cannot marry the person they choose. We learn, we act.
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TwentyFive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 02:35 PM
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9. A cool couple in my eyes! Boycott the discriminatory marriage system.
Edited on Fri Sep-08-06 02:35 PM by TwentyFive
Marriage should not be for just woman/man, but all genders.
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maddezmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 02:35 PM
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10. Go Brad
:thumbsup:
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goclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 03:52 PM
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41. I respect Pitt and Angie

They don't have to be married if they don't want to,lots of couples aren't.

He also did not have to make a statement at all that revealed his support for Gay Marriage, he could have simply said they are not getting married at this time.


Brad and Angelina GIVE BACK they aren't shallow like Paris Hilton.

Flame me if you like but I think Jennifer Aniston is a selfish airhead and I'm glad he left her.
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BOSSHOG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 02:36 PM
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11. Limbaugh - I'll marry when I get some bitch to sign a pre-nup
I'll pay some skank to marry me then force her to sign a prenup so she won't rip me off of my hard earned money when she finds out my taste in sex doesn't include mature females. And if I want to divorce well by gawd that's how we maintain the sanctity of marriage, end the bad ones. Fucking whining gays and their "we pay taxes too" bullshit.

Oh I took a little editorial license here with this docudrama. If it ain't true well what the hell, I'm getting in touch with my "conservative" side.

Good on Ya Brad!
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 02:39 PM
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15. Hah... love it! n/t
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 02:46 PM
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27. Scene:Rush at his lawyer's for marriage #4 paperwork
Rush:Well, is it signed yet?

Roy Black: Yeah the interpreter says that it is understood and .....(waits looks at pen hitting the paper) it is signed.

Rush :'bout god damned time now let's get married

Black: uh....this signature looks like a Phillipino version of "Larry"

Rush:Whatever (grabs paper, crumples it up and puts it in his pocket) I have to go get a prescription filled BIG weekend you know.
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BOSSHOG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 02:54 PM
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34. More editorial license
Edited on Fri Sep-08-06 02:56 PM by BOSSHOG
I like it. It doesn't matter if its true or not (although your scenario certainly sounds awful damned accurate.) Hey we are fucking "conservatives." We are fucking liars. Free republic members, worship us!
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sundancekid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-09-06 02:50 PM
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92. KUDOS - also, BEST sig line I've seen lately ... and, amen to that ... LOL
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longship Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 02:37 PM
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12. Using ones fame for the good.
I never liked Brad Pitt until I realized what a good person he is.
He uses his fame and fortune to better mankind which makes me want to go see his movies. And I will.

Tom Cruise? Fuck him.
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NVMojo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 10:31 PM
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77. Tom Cruise has turned into a huge joke. Wonder why he really divorced
Nicole Kidman??
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pitohui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-09-06 12:28 AM
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82. because the 10 yr limit was coming up
i thought all the world knew why cruise dumped kidman, it's because under california law if they had remained married 10 years she would have been entitled to half his fortune

too much to pay for a beard

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praeclarus Donating Member (203 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-10-06 04:32 AM
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103. LOL
:)
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GoneOffShore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 02:37 PM
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13. Excellent -
Met Pitt several years ago here in Philadelphia when he worked on 12 Monkeys. Seemed a bit full of himself, but that was then, this is now. He has matured as an actor and a person.
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 03:18 PM
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37. All actors are a bit full of themselves whether they are famous
or starving and waiting for their big break. It seems to be part of the personality. That doesn't mean that they can't be good people and interested in making the world a better place. Most of them do while they are still full of themselves.
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Egnever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 04:27 PM
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48. Generalities much?
your statement is complete horseshit.
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 06:40 PM
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67. I must have tread on your toes.
I lived in So. California for thirty years and knew many actors both famous and aspiring either dealing with them in business or actually being friends with them. If they didn't have that famous ego we speak of they couldn't get in front of the world and perform, or spend the hours in front of the mirror that's necessary for their craft. Also, in the case of leading men and women, being better looking that most of their peers also helps that ego. Most actors would agree with me unless they are bad actors.

Now what comes across to someone as being full of themselves is that protective ego that they have to have. It doesn't make them bad people. It make them stand out as being a little different.
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ldf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 09:07 PM
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73. my!
such bitterness. very telling.

i have thought all along that things really won't change until the straights do just that, refuse to marry until "the gays" can.

it should become the cause celebre.

if the asshole bigots think that marriage as a whole could disappear, they may decide that gays marrying aren't such a threat after all.

two :thumbsup: :thumbsup: for brad.
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pitohui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-09-06 12:29 AM
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83. oh i'm so jealous
12 monkeys best movie evah!

i can see why you'd have to crank yourself up to do that role
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ms liberty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 02:39 PM
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14. I'm beginning to be impressed by Brad Pitt...
If he really means this, and it's not just another way get the press off his back. This and his green NOLA rebuilding project is admirable.
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MaineDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 02:42 PM
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18. I'm beginning to feel that way, too
Although I still don't think very highly of celebs. At least he's trying to make a positive difference.
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wordpix2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-10-06 04:08 PM
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111. He's been really great on environmental issues, too
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Deep13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 02:40 PM
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17. Um, everyone?
Cool, I can finally follow the Old Testament definition of marriage and marry several underage wives. Can't wait. Did I mention one is my cousin?
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Jim Stark Donating Member (84 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 02:45 PM
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24. thanks
you made me spit out my diet dr. pepper
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 02:49 PM
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29. Welcome to DU
:hi: if'n I haven't before

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Jim Stark Donating Member (84 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 02:53 PM
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32. howdy back at ya!
thanks for the welcome.
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Der Blaue Engel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 02:51 PM
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30. Ah, the much-touted "slippery slope"
I'm sure he meant animals, too. ;)
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Deep13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 03:07 PM
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36. Why, what is he talking about?
The slope starts from where??

The post says who, not what, so animals are not included.

Kinship, age, failure to obtain a license and prior marriage are the only discriminatory provisions I know about. After all, homosexuals have the exact same right to marry someone of the opposite sex that hetros do. Is that really governmental discrimination.

'Scuse me while I put on this riot gear before sitting back and waiting for answers.


:popcorn: :hide: :argh:
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Der Blaue Engel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 04:28 PM
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50. "homosexuals have the exact same right to marry someone of the opposite"
I'm sure you know the fallacy of your own statement, so this is obviously just flamebait. Enjoy playing with your riot gear.
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Deep13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 05:05 PM
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53. Factual fallacy, but not a logical one.
If gay people want to get married there really is no public policy reason to say no. Nevertheless, discrimination from a legal point of view means treating different groups differently. Here the complaint from gay people is not that they are treated differently, but rather that they are treated exactly the same as heterosexuals. Given the facts, it is a valid complaint. Why should someone who acts like a spouse be denied the rights of spouses? From a strict reading of the statute, however, I doubt it is really discrimination within the usual meaning of the term and further doubt that it would fail a Constitutional challenge.
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ruggerson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 06:10 PM
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63. You do know this is the line that rightwing fundies use against gays?
It's right up there with "God made Adam and Eve, not Adam and Steve."

So, you're in really good company with Pat Robertson, Jerry Falwell and friends in using the line "homosexuals have the exact same right to marry someone of the opposite sex that hetros do."

The problem, quite obviously, is the logical fallacy behind your statement. Homosexuals do not fall in love with or wish to couple up with members of the opposite sex. They are homosexuals, remember? Ipso facto, they are emotionally and affectionally oriented towards their own gender. So to posit that they can marry members of the opposite sex just like heteros can, is ridiculous on its face value.

Heteros can marry who they fall in love with. Homosexuals cannot. Therein is the discrimination.

In ancient Rome, the Romans used your line on the Christians. They said, "The Christians are perfectly free to worship. They just have to worship Caesar."

That logic is as bogus as yours.
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Deep13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-09-06 09:27 AM
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88. I don't listen to Fundy preachers, so I'll have to take your word for it.
I have no objection to gay people getting married to each other. I was one of the minority of voters to oppose the state Constitutional ban at the ballot box. It passed 3 to 1 anyway meaning that about half of the Kerry voters also supported the ban.

While I think as a matter of policy and common decency that gay marriage should be allowed, I simply doubt the prohibition is "discrimination." That term has a specific legal meaning that means the state treating different groups differently. Right now, except in MA, there is one rule for everyone. It is hardly my "line."

As far as your example concerning Romans and Christians, that is also not discrimination. It is, however, a violation of the right to religious freedom, a concept unknown in those days.

The idea that marriage is based on love and affection is a pretty recent idea that is not universally accepted. Marriages are usually arranged by parents in much of the world, sometimes without the consent of the future newlyweds. The used to be how it was done in Europe too. Marriage has traditionally been an economic arrangement and remains so whether Westerners want to admit it or not. In the past when life was hard, brutal and short (as it remains in much of the world) the main concern was finding support for the woman and producing offspring to work the farm for the man. Given that long history, it is not surprising that some still hold onto the idea that marriage is mostly for procreation. As half of a childless-by-choice couple, I naturally don't think that model applies anymore. With 8 billion people standing on this one little rock, I don't place great value in procreation. For similar reasons, I don't think traditional "values" should prevent gay people from marrying each other.
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TlalocW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 02:42 PM
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19. I'm a 34-year-old, never married hetero male
I will now use this excuse at family reunions. The majority of my family is rural-living, conservative fundamentalists.

I expect I won't have to go to any more family reunions after a while. Yay for me!

TlalocW
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Divine Discontent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 07:20 PM
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71. i'm the same as you, but gay
and I will tell them until straights quit marrying gays to coverup their closeted lifestyles I won't attend their family reunions anymore. I know several people myself that have done this.
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pitohui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-09-06 12:30 AM
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84. go you! EOm
family reunions bite anyhoo
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file83 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-09-06 01:12 PM
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90. I just tell them that I haven't found "true love" yet - it's funny because
Edited on Sat Sep-09-06 01:14 PM by file83
it puts them ALL into a awkward position:

Do they say "there is no such thing as true love" in front of their spouses/relatives? Not in front of their wife's father they don't!! Or in front of their husband's mother - uh-uh, not going to happen.

It's great fun.
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heliarc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-10-06 03:35 AM
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100. I decided to marry...
But my wife and I agreed that our vows would be used as a statement about the universal right to marry. There was a clause in our vows that we had read that very specifically mentioned that we believe that our definition of love did not stand as a monopoly on the definition of love as being between a man and a woman. I believe marriage is a ceremony that is important for many reasons, and I think it is the logical progression of human history to allow same sex couples to do the same. Hear Hear.

If any of our relatives had a problem with that than maybe I won't be seeing much of them again either! HAHA.
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samsingh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 02:42 PM
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20. interesting position to take
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Totallybushed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 02:43 PM
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21. Sounds, real good,
but my personal bet would be that Brad just latched onto this as a way to keep from getting married when AJ started putting the pressure on him.

Call me cynical, but I see it as a real possibility.
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HarukaTheTrophyWife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 05:58 PM
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62. Regardless of why he's not getting married, he could have just said
"we're not getting married at this time," which MANY couples do. He chose to make a political statement, which real reason or not, is a good stand that he didn't have to take.
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Totallybushed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 07:01 PM
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69. Yes, it's a stand he
didn't have to take.
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Czolgosz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 02:44 PM
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22. K & R - I like Brad Pitt 100% more than I liked him 5 minutes ago
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Der Blaue Engel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 02:46 PM
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26. My partner and I have the same policy
We were "handfasted" (pagan commitment ceremony) in 2003, and explained to our relatives that we would not be getting legally married since not everyone in this country has the right to do so.

I'm pleased to see someone so high-profile take this stance and say it publicly. :thumbsup:

The Alternatives to Marriage Project has some good information on this topic.
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lvx35 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 02:48 PM
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28. Good policy.
I've been thinking about that, only getting a civil union. My family won't like it but oh well.
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Der Blaue Engel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 02:52 PM
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31. My family didn't like the pagan part, let alone
the fact that we're both bi and poly. :D They don't speak to me much anymore, but then they rarely did anyway.
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northernsoul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 02:53 PM
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33. I'll be attending a hetero "commitment ceremony" next weekend
Same rationale as what Mr. Pitt just offered. Granted, she's a divorce lawyer, so that's colored her view of the institution of marriage just a smidge.
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ruggerson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 06:15 PM
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65. Charlize Theron said this a while back
Pitt is a welcome addition.

As are you and your partner!
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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 02:54 PM
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35. Man! That will put the pressure on them!!
:eyes:
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Vidar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 03:20 PM
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38. Good for Pitt.
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YankeyMCC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 03:24 PM
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39. It's a good gesture
and I will give him the benefit of the doubt on his sincerity.

But the cynical male part of my brain is waving the "He's found a way to put off marriage without pissing off his girlfriend." :evilgrin:

But others, who are a little more aware of the couple, have posted here that it's actually Angelina who's putting it off so I'm probably wrong.

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Jim Stark Donating Member (84 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 03:45 PM
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40. I call bullshit
I think he just knows she's nuts and doesn't want the extra crap.
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greccogirl Donating Member (566 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 03:55 PM
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45. Think he's wised
up yet?
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Retired AF Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-09-06 06:37 AM
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86. I have a new line I can use now
I can't marry you until I can support you."
"I can't marry you until I am out of school."
"I can't marry you until I get out of the service."
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SmokingJacket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 03:53 PM
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42. Well, that's decent of them.
YOu can actually make a statement like that and have it make an impact if you're famous.

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shireen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 03:54 PM
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43. i'm really starting to like this guy!!!
Brad, you rock!
:applause: :applause: :applause:
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greccogirl Donating Member (566 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 03:55 PM
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44. Oh Yawn.
Is Brad trying to CYA?
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 03:56 PM
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46. thank you mr pitt -- some of us appreciate the gesture.
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IChing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 04:25 PM
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47. He is also helping finance a Low income housing project in New Orleans
Pitt Aids New Orleans with New Housing Design Initiative
HOLLYWOOD - Brad Pitt is putting his passion for architecture to good use in hurricane-ravaged New Orleans--he's the big name behind a new project to build affordable, green housing in the city.

The movie star has sponsored a Global Green competition to find forward-thinking architects who can help rebuild New Orleans--and he was in Louisiana yesterday to announce the winner, New York firm Workshop/APD.

Pitt used the design competition's conclusion to make his own feelings known about the government's reaction to the Hurricane Katrina devastation.
Pitt's new Global Green initiative will create communities of low-income, stylish housing which makes the most of natural resources to cut bills by as much as 65 percent.

The movie star explains, "I love that it can be replicated and not in a cookie-cutter style. At the same time, where it really wins is, if done properly, we can completely get rid of the idea of an energy bill.
http://www.hollywood.com/news/detail/id/3549749
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tinfoilinfor2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 05:10 PM
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54. Too bad he doesn't understand that bringing back the original
Edited on Fri Sep-08-06 05:11 PM by tinfoilinfor2005
residents is not part of the plan, in fact may have been the reason that the levees were not fixed long before they flooded. But I'm sure there will be plenty of monkey wrenches thrown in to the works if his low-income stylish dwellings start looking like they might become a reality.
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gorbal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 05:26 PM
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56. At least it's "LOW INCOME" housing
You can tell they put a great deal of thought into this, and are at least trying to provide housing for those in lower income brackets.
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IChing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 05:28 PM
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57. Here is their website.
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tinfoilinfor2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 05:46 PM
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58. Don't misunderstand...I think Pitt is doing a great thing.
I just don't think this government will let him do it in the end, or at least to any great extent, because I don't believe that they want the old poor and black residents returning to the city.
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Nikia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-10-06 04:00 PM
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110. I think they will to some extent
A lot of areas with primarily rich people have a hard time finding labor for all those low paid service jobs. Really it is bad business to have large areas where poor people don't live.
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kilaana Donating Member (107 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 04:28 PM
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49. I agree!
Edited on Fri Sep-08-06 04:32 PM by kilaana
Yay for Brad! My partner and I have the same policy. And sometimes when people ask us why we don't get married, we just tell 'em we can't because we're both gay (even tho we're opposite sex). That leaves them real confused!

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seriousstan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 04:50 PM
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51. DAMN!!! Why didn't I think of that excuse.
This man is a genius.
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w4rma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 05:01 PM
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52. Great folks, those two. (nt)
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lynne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 05:14 PM
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55. Guess he wasn't "ever the activist" when he married Jennifer Aniston -
Sounds like a convenient excuse to escape a pre-nup to me.
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readmoreoften Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 05:53 PM
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59. Gay marriage wasn't a big issue 12-13 years ago.
Makes sense to me.
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lynne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 07:14 PM
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70. Brad & Jennifer were married July 2000. It was a big deal then -
- and has been since before DOMA was signed in 1996.
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Nevernose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 07:42 PM
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72. It wasn't a big deal to me then, either. Am I a bad person, too?
Edited on Fri Sep-08-06 07:42 PM by Nevernose
It took some time, a few good friends, and a whole lot of DU to educate me. It's not that I was homophobic in 2000, but, as a straight person, discrimination against gays and lesbians -- and especially the issue of gay marriage -- just wasn't something I'd ever given much consideration to.

Personally, I grew up on the rural South, and while I'd heard the word "gay" bandied about, I had no idea what it really was until I was old enough to vote. Certainly it was not an issue ever talked about at dinner, even in my radically liberal, semi-Socialist family.

Pitt's been on the record for at least a decade, btw, as a die-hard liberal.

Just because he's late getting to the gay-marriage party doesn't mean he shouldn't be welcome.
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lynne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-09-06 12:21 AM
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79. Heck, no, that wouldn't make anyone a bad person !
But if Pitt's on the record as a die-hard liberal for a decade . . . shouldn't he have been aware of the plight of gay's in 2000?

I just think this is a crock of an excuse. But, hey, that's just me.


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fleabert Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-10-06 12:07 PM
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106. I was married in 99- and had no clue about the DOMA-
Edited on Sun Sep-10-06 12:07 PM by fleabert
if I could do it over again, I wouldn't get married on principle. Our best man was (is) gay and the subject never came up until after bush came along. Sometimes you have to accept the decisions you make- you make them with all the knowledge you have at the time, and just move forward. I consider myself very educated on GLBT issues these days, and wish I had done a lot of things differently in my younger days. I am sure Brad is the same way.

btw- before anyone says that having one gay friend doesn't make me aware of gay issues, I volunteer for the HRC, marched in this year's Pride parade in SF, and have more gay friends than straight. (all of them committed couples, one couple is legally married -in Canada)

edit: add a word...
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Missy Vixen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 05:57 PM
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60. Considering the fact that Charlize Theron and Stuart Townsend
made the same public announcement probably a year ago, I'm thinking someone's publicist may be working overtime.

Just sayin'.

Julie
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readmoreoften Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 05:57 PM
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61. Almost all of my straight friends refuse to marry because they
feel it is a discriminatory practice now.

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ruggerson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 06:13 PM
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64. Let's hope it's a trend
I would like it if all straight, unmarried couples would refuse to marry until everyone has marriage rights.

It could be the civil rights message of our generation.

Additionally, it would allow us to directly blame the *fundies* and their discriminatory agenda for the decline in the marriage rate. :)
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sadiesworld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 06:15 PM
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66. I'm waiting for one of these celebrities to refuse
healthcare until all citizens are covered. I assume I'll be waiting for awhile since that kind of position would actually cost them something (other than exposure to CA's community property laws).
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whiterabbit76 Donating Member (60 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 06:56 PM
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68. Nice!
I hope that other high profile individuals will follow his lead!

Good for you Brad!
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mac56 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 09:20 PM
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74. Call me cynical
but isn't this a great excuse for Brad? Doesn't have to marry the crazy chick, and everybody fawns all over him in the process?

How conVEEEEEEEEEEEEENient.
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NotGivingUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 09:47 PM
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75. all right brad and angie!
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NVMojo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 10:29 PM
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76. Brad, you beautiful doll! I love you!!! xoxoxoxo!
And Angelina is my favorite.
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antonialee839 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 10:38 PM
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78. So why did he marry the first time if
he was so worried about the rights of all Americans? Seems a bit theatrical if you ask me.
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pitohui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-09-06 12:34 AM
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85. because the first time he wasn't influenced by an activist
Edited on Sat Sep-09-06 12:34 AM by pitohui
jennifer aniston, i'm sure she's a nice lady, but she's not an activist lady like angelina

we are used to women being influenced by the ideals of their men, but you know what?

it's cool that he's secure enough in his manhood to go the other way and listen to what SHE has to say on the subject

a lot of men his age are totally NOT open to change or suggestion

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pitohui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-09-06 12:24 AM
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80. what a nice thing to do
good luck to both of them

i hope it brings the awareness they wish, it's cool to see celebs using their power so nicely as angelina has really always done and now brad too
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InvisibleTouch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-09-06 09:19 AM
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87. I never was a huge Brad Pitt fan...
...given that visually he's not really my "type" - although he was excellent in "Troy." But I'm gaining a new respect for him upon hearing things like this. I don't believe everyone in a relationship (even with kids between them) has to or should get married - why spoil a good thing, after all? - but those who want to marry should be able to, regardless of who they are. It's nice that he's using the opportunity to speak out against discrimination.

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davsand Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-09-06 09:27 AM
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89. I don't care what the motives are, I'm glad to see the discussion.
Irrespective of my attitudes (or lack of interest)regarding Mr Pitt or his marital status, I am very glad to see a celebrity use their media spotlight to foster discussions on a civil rights issue like gay marriage. The huge amount of coverage of his divorce, new romance and adopted children we have all been forced to endure certainly illustrates how obsessed people are with his life. Glad to see him use that for something positive.

Somehow I doubt it would generate much national interest if I had our media consultants announce that Kevsand and I plan to divorce and then NOT re-marry until everyone can...

:evilgrin:



Laura
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heliarc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-10-06 03:43 AM
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102. Ditto! n/t
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SKKY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-09-06 01:24 PM
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91. I wonder if "Angie" is willing to wait. But I think it's quite telling...
...that he calls her "Angie". I've never heard him call her that before. Almost seeems like they're a real couple.
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zanne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-09-06 03:19 PM
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94. This goes under the category...
Things to tell your girlfriend if you don't want to get married.
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ckramer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-09-06 09:37 PM
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96. Brad Pitt is a joke
My opinion.
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Raine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-10-06 08:00 PM
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112. I'm of the same mind
I'm not impressed by someone who betrayed their wife by cheating on her. I've been there and have nothing but contempt for someone who does that to another person.
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sueh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-09-06 11:59 PM
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97. Ahh, come on, Brad...
I can see right through that. You have a commitment problem, don't you?
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heliarc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-10-06 03:42 AM
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101. Nah
He just wants Jolie to marry Aniston so they can all be a happy family!

Actors are business people whose personas are their main capital resource. They use that persona for publicity. I don't believe in half of the celebrity match ups. Some of those guys are such megalomaniacs its hard to imagine they are vulnerable enough for one second long enough to let another human being into their lives... there are exceptions though. I suspect there's a lot of open marriages ... or at least I hope so! Much more interesting personal lives that way!
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AZBlue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-10-06 01:55 AM
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98. I think it's great. Besides, who says anyone HAS to get married?
Why are some people naturally assuming that he or she is commitment-phobic or the relationship is on the skids?? Maybe they previously decided that they don't want to get married (for the simple reaston that you don't need to be married to be in a long-term committed relationship) and are using their decision to fight for a greater cause? I for one have no need for marriage ever, so I don't get the hoopla. Since they have each previously been married and each have rather complicated portfolios, to say the least, not tying the knot makes a lot of sense to me. And, since anyone who wants to marry should be allowed to do so, the statement should be applauded.

If they have three kids together and love and support each other, isn't that a heck of a lot more than a great number of married couples??
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heliarc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-10-06 03:27 AM
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99. In my book
Edited on Sun Sep-10-06 03:37 AM by heliarc
This stands as the best subversion of the Tabloid press's appetite for gossip that I've seen in a long time. Good job Pitt!

Plus, don't you love that the Right wants to have their cake and eat it too. How many morons have I had to argue with who blame all this sin on Gay people... Blame them for promiscuity, and disease and all that... and then you give them an opportunity to officially allow Gay people to commit to each other through ceremony and legally binding social structure, ostensibly to "cure" all these fantastic notions they have about who's to blame for all the sin in the world... and they turn it down. Awesome. Just Awesome. The mind boggles at the contradictions, insecurities and fear in the mind of the Conservative Christian Right in the US.

I hope for what its worth that this is a bomb that hits every Christian girl who ever had a crush on Brad Pitt and wanted to marry him... and a burr in the side of every Christian man who ever sprung a woody for Jolie. We hear your message loud and clear Brad/Angie. Right on!

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screembloodymurder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-10-06 08:28 AM
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104. Don't we get enough of this crap on MSM.
While debate on 911 is rerouted to the basement, this dribble is allowed to stand as posted. Why?
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zann725 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-10-06 01:03 PM
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107. Noble as it sounds, that's the BEST excuse to postpone marriage any MALE
suggested in some time.

Of course the "ban" will NOT be dropped entirely, OR soon...so Brad is sealing his fate as a bachelor. Poor, poor Angelino...
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breakaleg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-10-06 02:30 PM
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109. I agree - it's a great excuse for someone who has other reasons for
not getting married. For all we know (and has been reported) it's Angie that doesn't want to get married and he could be giving her reason as his own, or could be trying to save face.

The fact that he got engaged to Gwyneth and Jennifer so soon into their relationships shows he does believe in marriage. I don't think a person changes that drastically that quickly.
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Ayesha Donating Member (587 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-10-06 02:26 PM
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108. For those of you questioning
the genuineness of his commitment....he legally adopted the children! That's a much bigger commitment than just getting married. So I think this statement is true. And Bravo to him, although I'm a bit jealous that he snagged the very lovely and very BISEXUAL Ms. Jolie ;)
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and-justice-for-all Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-11-06 04:21 AM
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113. Awsome!
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