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DeepModem Mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 09:23 AM
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Bush Plans Prime Time Sept. 11 Address: After visits to NY, PA, Pentagon
WP/AP: Bush Plans Prime Time Sept. 11 Address
The Associated Press
Friday, September 8, 2006

WASHINGTON -- President Bush will make a prime-time address from the Oval Office on Monday to mark the fifth anniversary of the Sept. 11 attacks.

White House press secretary Tony Snow said the administration had requested network time for the address at 9:01 p.m. EDT. The address is expected to run 16 to 18 minutes, he said.

The speech will come after Bush visits each of the attack sites, in New York, Shanksville, Pa., and the Pentagon, where terrorist hijackers used commercial airliners as weapons to kill nearly 3,000 people.

Snow said Bush's address would not be a political speech or a charge to Congress for action. Rather, he said, it would be reflective of what Sept. 11 has meant and "how we move ahead as a country in making use of the lessons of Sept. 11."...

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/09/08/AR2006090800533.html
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ogradda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 09:26 AM
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1. A propaganda speech....
in other words.
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HuffleClaw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 09:29 AM
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2. he's gonna take time AWAY from ABC's propaganda piece?
hmmmmmm
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spotbird Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 10:03 AM
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10. Looks like he knows
it isn't going to be aired. He must be disappointed.

They'd be better off keeping Bush home and letting the dramatic drop in gas prices work its electoral magic.
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judaspriestess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 10:09 PM
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58. He can still make that ever so important speech cant he?
Why would he not?
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radfringe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-09-06 03:34 AM
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95. we interrupt politically damaging scenes
to bring you a "non-political" message from the President...
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gasperc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 09:30 AM
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3. promo for path to 9/11
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rpannier Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 09:30 AM
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4. Let me translate for everyone out there not fluent in bush speak
Snow said Bush's address would not be a political speech or a charge to Congress for action. Rather, he said, it would be reflective of what Sept. 11 has meant and "how we move ahead as a country in making use of the lessons of Sept. 11."...

Bushspeak: Sept 11 happened because of the obstructionist policies of the Democrats and the do-nothing policies of Bill Clinton. Had Clinton not screwed up, like he did during the disaster in 1992, those 3000 people never would have died.
In order to move ahead we must avoid the failed pre-911 mindset of the Democrats and support my program of wiretaps, which have never caught anyone yet, and eliminate most of the safeguards provided in that scrap of paper called th Bill of Rights.
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AnneD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 12:17 PM
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14. Yeah...
but Clinton didn't get a Presidential daily briefing in August that said the were likely to be attacked by air, etc. Clinton Came closer to actually catching him than Bush ever has. Clinton captured and tried the terrorist actually responsibe for the first world tower bombing and he didn't need to ignore FISA to do it. Need I go on....
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hatrack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 09:30 AM
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5. Back for one last milking, George?
That udder's just about dry, President Assclown.
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PurityOfEssence Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 03:58 PM
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53. Hey, they say criminals always return to the scene of the crime
What a shameless, ugly, narcissistic moron.
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Mark E. Smith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 09:32 AM
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6. Nice of Fearful Georgie to remind us ...
... that 5 years after these unspeakable acts were committed against the American people the perpetrators
are still at large and still killing.

Maybe he's going to apologize for his incompetence and inability to get the job done.
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Cooley Hurd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 09:33 AM
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7. Jesus...
Edited on Fri Sep-08-06 09:35 AM by Cooley Hurd
He's milking it to the last drop...:grr:
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grytpype Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 09:36 AM
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8. He is going to read My Pet Goat to the entire nation.
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spotbird Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 10:01 AM
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9. He'll announce $.95 gas
and victory in Iran is assured. Iraq and Afghanistan are yesterday's news, no point in dwelling on them.
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OregonDem Donating Member (242 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 10:23 AM
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11. Bush failed to protect us which is his first and foremost responsibility
Edited on Fri Sep-08-06 10:25 AM by OregonDem
and then when he didn't deliver justice to those who were responsible, he used 9/11 as an excuse to invade and occupy a nation that was not involved in the terror attacks which only brought needless death to thousands of Americans and Iraqis. But Bush will tell you that it was our freedoms that prevented him from doing his job, and he will use the anniversary of this tragedy to ask us to sacrifice more of our rights and urge us to continue to support this unnecessary slaughter. His party at the same time will capitalize on September 11th in order to raise money so that mindless politicians who support his failed policies will remain in power.

:rant:
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MaineDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 10:34 AM
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12. I find this offensive
The miserable failure talking about his administration's inability to detect this threat before it happened and playing the anniversary for all he can get is highly offensive.

Let's mourn the dead without his interference.
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suegeo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-09-06 08:14 AM
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97. I too find this offensive
Edited on Sat Sep-09-06 08:17 AM by suegeo
This administration--and their congress, and their courts, and their military--aren't government, they are organized crime.
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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 11:26 AM
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13. Jesse Jackson says "Keep Hope Alive." Bush says,
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anotherdrew Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 12:20 PM
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15. bush can go straight to hell, I will dance on his grave one day... n/t
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Efilroft Sul Donating Member (827 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 12:40 PM
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17. Heh. I'll piss on it.
And I'll be sure to eat a lot of asparagus beforehand. Nothing smells quite like an asparagus piss.
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anotherdrew Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 01:26 PM
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34. I've still got to get my dancing done at reagan's grave, must do it soon
Edited on Fri Sep-08-06 01:26 PM by anotherdrew
perhaps a tour bus could be arranged sometime lol
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Supersedeas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 12:25 PM
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16. no...nothing political
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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 12:41 PM
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18. Where's the football game?
Edited on Fri Sep-08-06 01:30 PM by rocknation
On the other hand, I suppose he deserves credit for planning to get to all three sites within three days...

x(
rocknation
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IChing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 01:19 PM
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19. Amid political furor, Bush to give Sept. 11 address (prime time)

By Steve Holland

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - President George W. Bush on Friday scheduled a prime-time speech to mark the fifth anniversary of September 11 amid an acrimonious election-year debate over whether America is safer and who is to blame for the attacks.

The Oval Office address will culminate a series Bush has delivered to insist that five years after the catastrophic hijacked plane attacks that killed almost 3,000 people, the United States is more secure but still threatened by al Qaeda.

While White House spokesman Tony Snow insisted the Monday speech has no political element, Bush has been attempting to frame a debate on national security to political and policy advantage and save Republicans from losing control of the U.S. Congress to Democrats in the November election.

>>>>snip http://today.reuters.com/news/articlenews.aspx?type=topNews&storyid=2006-09-08T162341Z_01_N08186074_RTRUKOC_0_US-SEPT11.xml&src=rss
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BootinUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 01:19 PM
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20. Nice opening paragraph and headline
then it decends into right wing talking points.
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Joe for Clark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 01:19 PM
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21. Is this speech to be opposite the ABC miniseries??
Joe
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 01:19 PM
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25. or maybe "preempt" it?
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IChing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 01:19 PM
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26. Don't know but talk about a barrage for "hate week"
I wonder if he will mention the anthrax attacks, and the people that died or got ill?
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Scout1071 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 08:04 PM
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56. The movie will be interrupted for his speech.
How over the feckin' top could they be with this propoganda?
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 01:19 PM
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22. damm. he gets prime time on Monday eve. that is news
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 01:19 PM
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23. the man who needs death and destruction to be noticed
Is it any wonder he tortured frogs as a child?
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Jack Rabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 01:19 PM
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24. .
:boring:
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VegasWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 01:19 PM
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27. Will we have an entirely new marketing reason for why we invaded Iraq? nt
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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 01:19 PM
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28. Looks like a Blockbuster (Video) night on Monday
Suggestions?
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elehhhhna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 02:56 PM
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46. V. I'll watch it on ppv.
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tnlurker Donating Member (698 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 01:19 PM
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29. Can somebody ask Tony Snow or *
Is there still time to ask Snow or * if they have heard the controversy about Path to 911 and if they agree with rewriting history?
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leftupnorth Donating Member (657 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 01:19 PM
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30. * wants his war in Iran before we take control of congress
I heard a guy on Thom Hartmann (with Peter B subbing) that thinks the raised rhetoric is actually a precursor to a war with Iran and the elections are a side effect. * doesn't care if we win back congress or not. He just wants his war before January.

Will * come to congress or will we just experience another "terra attack" between now and january that blames Iran? Even if it happened AFTER the election and we won by a landslide, we don't have any power until January 20th.

yep :tinfoilhat: but I don't put anything past these bastards.
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 01:22 PM
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31. Do we know which networks are going to air his speech?
remember, the last one several networks turned him down!
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IChing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 01:26 PM
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33. I think all networks will give him a chance on this one he will start out
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54anickel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 01:28 PM
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35. All but ABC. Gotta give the viewing public a choice in which propaganda
Edited on Fri Sep-08-06 01:29 PM by 54anickel
piece they watch. :P

edit cuz I can't type
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Jim Stark Donating Member (84 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 01:24 PM
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32. so what?
what is the big uproar about? It IS the 5th year anniversary and he IS currently the President. I just don't see what the fuss is about, sorry.
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TheWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 02:30 PM
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44. That's because you clearly don't have a clue about anything
This President has done and continues to do to the detriment of this nation and the World.

Not one clue.
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newspeak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-09-06 12:13 PM
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101. what is the big uproar? hmmm
so, for within the last two weeks * has had two very, very scary speeches---ghoulish torture and how it's working, your with us or with the terrorists, and terror, terror, fear, fear, and we're fighting in Iraq so we don't have to fight them here. Elections are in November, by damn those gas prices are lowering--gee, what a coincidence and now ABC airs a no-commercial five hour mock-u-drama saying that it's all Clinton's fault for 9/11-not Teflon George's--no sirree, he's as clean as a whistle!!! And, probably in the second part, while showing all those myth based ass kissing coverage of this administration, he's going to be on your TV screen to bring you more terror, terror and fear, fear-and to show you again who really is protecting you!!! Yep, long live Mad King George!!!! Brought to you by your war profiteering, corporate * kissing network!!!!
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lpbk2713 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 01:28 PM
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36. Milking it for all it's worth.









Will he be wearing his padded flight suit?




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Jim Stark Donating Member (84 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 01:34 PM
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37. how is that?
how could commemorating 9/11 be milking? My God, how is that even possible?
be reasonable people!
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MaineDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 01:39 PM
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38. Oh please
I don't need him parading in front of the camera to remind me of my two friends killed in Shanksville, PA. I'll remember their lives without him, thank you very much.

Not political? I don't believe that for a minute. Can you honestly say this won't be used for political gain?
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Jim Stark Donating Member (84 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 01:49 PM
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39. I'm just saying
what president wouldn't go on tv on such a day? AND if he didn't what would you think of your president, any president? it's just logical is all I'm saying and this frenzy that I'm seeing here looks pretty silly.
And I'm terribly sorry you lost close personal friends that horrible day.
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Jim Stark Donating Member (84 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 02:23 PM
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41. huh?
what prompted THAT for pete's sake???
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MaineDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 02:57 PM
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47. I think a simple statement at each site would be enough
He's going to the three sites (photo ops) then he'll give a prime time address. I just think it's overkill and exploitation. But that's just me.

And thanks for your kind thought. :)
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Bridget Burke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 03:13 PM
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50. Why doesn't Bush just attend a Memorial Service?
Why should he continue to make political hay from a terrorist attack that he did NOTHING to prevent?

Too bad he was so scarce in 9/11--when the whole country would have appreciated a word or 2 from the "man" in charge...




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MaineDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 03:16 PM
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51. Now that's the perfect solution
Attend a somber memorial service to pay respects to the dead. Perhaps even lay a wreath at the sites if he needs to visit each one.
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newspeak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-09-06 12:23 PM
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102. tell me about that horrible day?
Let's see, after that horrible day, * spoke to his constituency saying with that little "inside joke" giggle of his how he hit the trifecta. See, 9/11 was just a joke about hitting the trifecta and after that horrible day, he made a comment how things have been good for him and Laura that year. Maybe, because he hit the trifecta, where he thought he could bully everyone into passing his policies and going to war!!!! Then, there was that little "joke" of *, in front of an audience, looking for WMD around his desk and people actually laughing. I find, with the amount of soldiers and civilians murdered, that his actions belie a disturbed mind. To me, 9/11 was just a means to * to justify an end, and that end was war--war, 24/7 until this country is bankrupt, or our morale and name are bankrupt.
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remfan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 06:47 PM
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54. Let's not forget the SERIES of speeches he's giving
in advance, and let's not overlook the THEME and INTENT of those speeches.

To paraphrase Bunnypants from just the other day, 'it's hard working trying to convince the country that 9/11 and Iraq are related.'

He's on a MARKETING and PUBLIC RELATIONS campaign right now.

Why is he doing that?

How is that even possible?

Now why the hell should I give a damn about what he says about 9/11?
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NYC Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 08:00 PM
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55. Well I don't think most of us New Yorkers will be too fond of him coming
Edited on Fri Sep-08-06 08:01 PM by NYC Liberal
up here, considering that 85 percent voted AGAINST him in the last election, and considering that he has a 25 percent approval rating here in NYC.

So he should not be coming where he is not wanted. He is only going to cause problems, and he knows that.

(Oh, and how much do you want to bet that something about IRAQ makes its way into this "commemoration", despite it having nothing to do with 9/11...)
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 10:19 PM
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59. More shameless self-promotion and 9-11 bloody shirt waiving by Bush
In the decades after the U.S. Civil War (1861-1865), Republicans were often accused of 'waving the bloody shirt'--reminding voters of Southern secession, and urging them to vote for the party of the Union and Lincoln. These appeals held enormous appeals to those who had made great sacrifices in the Union war effort: veterans, including men still suffering from injuries and diseases contracted in the Army; those who had lost husbands, sons, and fathers; former nurses and volunteers; Southern African-Americans emancipated by the war; and Northerners, black and white, who had sought to abolish slavery.

http://projects.vassar.edu/1896/civilwar.html

"Waving the bloody shirt", in U.S. history, refers to the demagogic practice of politicians using sectionalist animosities of the American Civil War to gain election in the postbellum North from the 1860s to 1880s. The phrase implied members of the Democratic Party (which garnered much of their support from the "Solid South") were responsible for the assassination of Abraham Lincoln and the bloodshed of the war.

The term "bloody shirt" can be traced back to the aftermath of the murder of the third Caliph, Uthman in 656 CE, when a bloody shirt and some hair alleged to be from his beard were used in what is widely regarded as a cynical ploy to gain support for revenge against opponents. It also appears in a scene in William Shakespeare's Julius Caesar, in which Mark Antony waves Julius Caesar's toga to stir up the emotions of his fellow Romans. In American history, it gained popularity with an incident in which Benjamin Franklin Butler of Massachusetts, when making a speech on the floor of the U.S. House of Representatives, held up the shirt of a carpetbagger whipped by the Ku Klux Klan

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bloody_shirt
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bamacrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 02:24 PM
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42. Before or after the movie?
So transparent, makes me dry heave.
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RamboLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 10:25 PM
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60. According to NYT - it will be in middle of movie
They'll cut away for 15-20 minutes then resume the movie
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elehhhhna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 02:56 PM
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45. LOLBig mistake. Bring it on, Son of Wimp.
Their psyops are sucking hard.
Bush is just another annoying reality televsion program.
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karlrschneider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 03:04 PM
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48. "Now, watch this movie!"
:eyes:
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Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 03:09 PM
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49. George has to use all the 9/11 propaganda he can.
Sick little monkey.
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Straight Shooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 03:29 PM
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52. Here's the costume he has chosen, instead of his CIC jacket.
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Pachamama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 09:24 PM
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57. No one should watch TV on Sept 11th!!!!
If anyone wants to truly honor the dead from 9/11 and all the US soldiers that have DIED BECAUSE OF A LIE, then don't watch any TV on Monday, Sept. 11th.

Turn it off! Just turn off the TV entirely on Sept. 11th.

Light a candle. Go to Church/Synagogue/Mosque etc., take a walk in nature, meditate, pray and remember the people who lost their lives and what happened that day to our citizens and what has happened to our country in their name since 9/11.

No one should bother to listen to that Fear mongering piece of crap who occupies the oval office and lies, lies, lies....

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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-09-06 07:19 AM
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96. I'm not. I'm sick to my stomach over the exploitation.
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Tom Joad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 11:07 PM
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61. Bush Wants Speech to Interrupt 9/11 Film
http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2006/09/08/entertainment/e141858D71.DTL

ABC, still trying to deal with angry former Clinton administration officials about their Sept. 11 miniseries, was also faced Friday with a request from President Bush to interrupt the film for a speech.


The president has asked broadcast networks to clear time for an address to the nation Monday at 9:01 p.m., or at the start of the last hour of "The Path to 9/11" on the East Coast.


The network did not immediately say what it will do. It has said the film, which stretches to five hours running commercial-free Sunday and Monday, is still being edited amid concerns by Clinton officials that it drastically distorts history.
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Yes, its true.

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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 11:07 PM
Response to Reply #61
62. posted earlier today
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Proud2BAmurkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 11:07 PM
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63. He wants them to cut into where he read MY PET GOAT for 7 minutes
.
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Kagemusha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 11:07 PM
Response to Reply #61
64. The man respected football once upon a time.
Obviously that was early in his term and he's gotten absolutely shameless about it now.
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msongs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 11:07 PM
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65. bush speech is a CAMPAIGN speech -NO FREE time should be given
every speech he has given this week is a campaign speech for republicans running for election, yet the media have played them as news.

sheeeeesh.

Msongs
www.msongs.com/political-shirts.htm
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Webster Green Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 11:08 PM
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66. All the more reason to keep the TeeVee off.
:eyes:
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SquireJons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 11:08 PM
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67. Wow! I didn't realize that ABC was that much of a tool.
So this whole thing is a just big revisionist PR commercial for Bush and the GOP? Think of it, what other time has ABC run a five hour broadcast without commercials? Never. (This way no one can boycott or protest against advertisers) And then the White House wants a break in the fictional show trashing the people who really did work hard to protect this country with propaganda reinforcing the notion that he is the strong savior of America. My god, this is absolutely Stalinesk. I wonder if this is Rove's idea or some new influence within the RNC? It seems a bit heavy handed for Rove. My biggest surprise is that it's not showing on FOX.

Is it possible that they'll get away with this? I don't mean doing it, I mean politically.
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LiberalEsto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 11:08 PM
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72. ABC's been bad for a long time
Personal anecdote:

Around 1970-71 I went to a massive anti-war demo in New York's Central Park. The event was entirely peaceful from what I could tell. As I was leaving, I spotted several guys dressed as hippies (only they looked really scruffy and thug-like and kind of fake) having a fake fistfight. Some guy was directing them, while another guy was filming them with a tv camera marked ABC. Obviously it was an effort to discredit a peaceful anti-war demonstration by fabricating a violent incident.

So I'm not really surprised at their plan to air this 9/11 propaganda.
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Karenina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 11:08 PM
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75. I cannot believe that 35 years later
some stranger on the internet is recounting this... Can it really be? Are we talking the West Side between 72 & 79th? :wow:
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SquireJons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 11:08 PM
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79. So Yous Guys saw the same thing?
35 years ago? What are the odds on that? It's a shame you didn't have a camera to take a picture of the propaganda scene.
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LiberalEsto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-09-06 04:26 PM
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105. The exact location escapes me
So you saw this too?

I was about 18 and it horrified me that the media could LIE.
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Karenina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-09-06 07:29 PM
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106. YES! I was in my early 20's
Edited on Sat Sep-09-06 07:33 PM by Karenina
and during those times got an education on police provocation, infiltrators, "false flag" operations... Infiltrators came to our campus at Lincoln Center with the purpose of whipping us up into a frenzy. It was such a small student body they stood out like sore thumbs. :rofl: But I DO remember being the park and my mouth hanging open as I watched this brazenly "staged" event being filmed by a crew with network logos pasted all over their gear right out there in the open for everyone to see!!! ABC's studios were just down the street.
I'd always thought my buddies up at Columbia were a bit over the top with their little red books but after witnessing that fabrication... AND sure enough those fake hippie-commie-pinkos made BOTH EDITIONS of the local evening news!!! I was SO on the phone screaming to whoever would listen!
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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 11:08 PM
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68. Mm. Tough dilemma for ABC.
Better cancel the film. That'll make it a lot easier for everybody.
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Skip Intro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 11:08 PM
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69. Will abc use this as a reason for pulling the propaganda
or was it all planned for bush to make an appearance at certain time - Clinton weak, bush strong...


How deep does it go? I can't help wondering.
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galloglas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 11:08 PM
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83. How deep does it go?
All the way to the Sewers of Hell!

And if ABC does not cancel it, it will be Corporate Suicide. Watch for local affilliates to start bailing on this thing over the weekend (I spoke to our local ABC programming affilliate yesterday. She has been doing nothing but answering angry emails since the first of the week. She has a meeting scheduled (oops! already had it!) with the General Manager about this today.


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donco6 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 11:08 PM
Response to Reply #61
70. I didn't think Bush could BE more opportunistic.
But holy crap, Stalinesque is RIGHT. What's next, big pictures of the Shrub in Times Square?
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BootinUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 11:08 PM
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71. Communist style portraits would be so appropriate.
Someone with artistic skill must accept this challenge.
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Earth_First Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 11:08 PM
Response to Reply #61
73. If this doesn't constitute fascist propaganda, I don't know what does.
nt
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anotherdrew Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 11:08 PM
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74. go to hell bush, WHAT film? the one that's going to be canceled? n/t
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Journeyman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 11:08 PM
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76. This is kind of like asking the hooker to. . .
ah, never mind. . . that's rude and crude (even if it is oh so true).
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yorkiemommie1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 11:08 PM
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77. they will stage the speech at the most critical
heartbreaking moment to really grab the sheeples' emotions and work their brains over but GOOD.

this is nothing but a damn propaganda tool. It's manipulative, and sneaky and JUST LIKE BUSHCO.

every day since * got elected there has been some vile move from the GOP. every time i think of them i picture the lid of a pandora's box of evil being lifted the day he got selected.
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gulliver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 11:08 PM
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78. Fine. But they should give Dems 7 minutes of air time afterwards. n/t
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maseman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 11:08 PM
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80. That will force more people
to go to ESPN and watch Monday night football...which of course is owned by Disney. Jeebus.

This is getting bizarre. Why would ABC pay $40 million dollars and then pre-empt their own movie to show the Shrub?
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TomInTib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 11:08 PM
Response to Reply #61
81. Maybe this explains the 'no commercials' thing.
This way, they just slide the telecast back to accomodate the 'speech'.
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Straight Shooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 11:08 PM
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82. Bwahahahaha! Do it, ABC, do it!
Under such pressure, it's now or never time, bush will fumble, and in contrast to however he's portrayed in the movie, there's no way the images will match up and it will make the whole thing seem like the pack of lies that it is.

Do it, ABC, do it. America is waiting to see how much you'll bend over for the bush.
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galloglas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 11:08 PM
Response to Reply #61
84. Yeah, well
then fuck him!
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high density Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 11:08 PM
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85. Address to the nation?
Edited on Fri Sep-08-06 09:35 PM by high density
Whiskey tango foxtrot!

Let me guess, we'll have more "the Democrats are Nazis" talk from Bush? I must say it will be an interesting situation for ABC to go from Bush addressing the nation to their fictional dramatization of 9/11.
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RamboLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 11:08 PM
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86. ABC is giving the GOP their F'ing Commercial
http://www.nytimes.com/reuters/arts/entertainment-sept11-abc.html?_r=1&oref=slogin

Under pressure from former President Bill Clinton and the Democratic Party, ABC scrambled on Friday to make 11th-hour changes to a miniseries suggesting he was inattentive to the Islamic militant threat that led to the September 11 attacks.

Officials at the Walt Disney Co.-owned network said they were still tinkering with the five-hour production, titled ``The Path to 9/11,'' which is scheduled to air without commercial interruption in two parts on Sunday and Monday.

But ABC declined to say how the movie was being reshaped or whether any changes would address specific complaints lodged by Clinton, his former aides and congressional Democrats that the film contained numerous inaccuracies and distortions.

The Hollywood trade paper Daily Variety, citing sources close to the project, reported the network was considering canceling the miniseries altogether.

The network said it would air the first hour of the film, break for 20 minutes to carry Bush's speech live, then broadcast the rest of the movie.

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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-09-06 08:26 AM
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99. ABC is Dead to me. eom
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Scurrilous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 11:08 PM
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87. A commercial free movie...
..with a Bush speech halfway through. Anyone watching will use that time to :hurts:
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BlueStater Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 11:08 PM
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88. I'll be attending a college class on Monday night
So thankfully I won't have to endure either the fictional bullshit nor the real bullshit.
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NotGivingUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 11:08 PM
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89. I can't stand that snottly little dictator any more.
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HuffleClaw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 11:08 PM
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90. so he can ADD to the new myth being propagated
he'll say some cute phrase about 'previous administrations efforts' i bet.
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Gregorian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 11:08 PM
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91. We interrupt these lies to bring you more lies.
We are controlling transmission. We will control the horizontal. We will control the vertical.
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glitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 11:08 PM
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92. This is blatant enough to trigger even the dimmest moran bullshit-o-meter.
I wonder how they'll enjoy the obvious manipulation? Again with the :rofl:
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Jamastiene Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-09-06 02:11 AM
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93. Damn, now they are stacking that wacky conservative bullshit two layers
high and shoving it down our throats in twos. I do wish they'd stop it. I'm gagging here. :puke:
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rainbow4321 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-09-06 03:23 AM
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94. And here is a preview of his speech...
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Lisa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-09-06 01:57 PM
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103. Too bad it's not "DC 9/11" being shown -- then * could pre-empt himself!
(That earlier movie uses an actor, and actual news clips, to portray Bush onscreen. I don't think Bush actually does anything in the new movie ... well gee, maybe that's a rare touch of realism!)
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-09-06 08:25 AM
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98. This was planed from the get-go to associate Dear Leader with
the TRUE brave men and women who were the first responders on 9/11.

The Chimperor wants us all to think of his "Bull Horn Moment" at ground zero, instead of his Bull Shit moment of declaring "Bring it On" resulting in even greater numbers of dead soldiers in Iraq-Nam.

Too bad the events in both Iraq and Afghanistan will not cooperate with Uncle Dick's and KKKarl's plans to distract the public into FEAR and TERROR mode that ensures Republican Majorities. :(
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Ouabache Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-09-06 09:09 AM
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100. 5 years ago he booked for Bumfuck, Nebraska
Why doesn't he make the speech from THERE?

Apologies to any Bumfuckian, DUers. I know you didn't want him there.
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minnesota_liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-09-06 02:12 PM
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104. Should be enough time to mention "terrorists" of some version thereof...
Edited on Sat Sep-09-06 02:14 PM by minnesota_liberal
about 39 times. I'll be counting "evil-doers" and "folks who want to harm us" as well.
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kitty1 Donating Member (772 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-09-06 09:03 PM
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107. After the movie's depiction of W's 9/11 speech, they'll preempt ..
right after with his current one. 5 years later. Dramatic moment for the repugs. Let's watch shall we.
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