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ECH1969 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-07-06 01:41 PM
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Al-Jazeera airs pre-9/11 bin Laden tape
Al-Jazeera on Thursday broadcast what it called a previously unshown video in which al-Qaida chief Osama bin Laden is seen meeting with some of the Sept. 11 hijackers.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060907/ap_on_re_mi_ea/al_jazeera_bin_laden_tape_3
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Virginia Dare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-07-06 01:44 PM
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1. My, my what a coincidence....
speak of the devil and he appears.
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NanceGreggs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-07-06 01:44 PM
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2. Disclaimer:
"For dramatic and narrative purposes, this videotape contains fictionalized scenes, composite and representative characters and dialogue, as well as time compression."
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Human Torch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-07-06 01:47 PM
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4. Touché.
I'll see your bin Laden tape, and raise you a fictional two-part made-for-TV docudrama featuring the work of that noted 9/11 historian, Karl Rove.

:evilgrin:
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Jacobin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-07-06 01:46 PM
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3. Well, we know from bin Laden's pronouncements that he
wants reactionary forces to prevail in America. They WANT the U.S. to militarily strike out at anything muslim, so that they can continue to recruit for the jihad.

The timing is not surprising at all. Bin Laden openly supports Bush and the RW. It's not even close to a secret
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Connie_Corleone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-07-06 01:51 PM
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5. Is this the fat Osama again??
Which part is Mel Gibson playing?
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CoffeeCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-07-06 01:52 PM
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6. What a lovely tie in...
Edited on Thu Sep-07-06 01:54 PM by TwoSparkles
...with the detainee legislation that Junior is pressuring Congress to pass
before they go home to campaign.

With those evil, terrorist mugs plastered all over the news--and in the public
consciousness--all the Republicans will have to do, is turn and say, "Look at the
Democrats! Trying to obstruct legislation that would prevent these mass murderers
from suing our own people who are JUST doing their jobs!! Why do the Dems love
the terrorists?"

I can't frickin believe this. Whenever I go into denial about the sick state
of this administration--and what they're really doing behind the scenes--a strategically
timed stunt like this happens--and the truth slaps me in the face once again.

Hold on to yer butts, fellow Americans. The run up to the 06 election is going to
be peppered with all kinds of staged publicity stunts, fear mongering and horrendous
distortions--all served up with video from Osama, visual aids from Al Queda, raised
terror threats, revalations of foiled plots--and maybe worse.

I can't wait to see what these morons do next. Too bad 1/2 of the electorate is fast asleep.
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fshrink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-07-06 01:54 PM
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7. We are like Shakespearian theater spectators,
commenting from the audience a play that we don't write, in which we don't even play, but which has become our very existence.
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HMonk Donating Member (16 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-07-06 02:44 PM
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8. And a tape of the new al-Qaeda leader in Iraq (BBC)
Edited on Thu Sep-07-06 02:44 PM by HMonk
Bin Laden '9/11 video' broadcast

Al-Jazeera did not say how it obtained the tape
Arabic TV channel Al-Jazeera has broadcast what it says is unseen footage of Osama Bin Laden meeting some of the 9/11 hijackers.


(snip)

Al-Jazeera also showed a tape said to be of the new al-Qaeda leader in Iraq urging Iraqis to join with insurgents.

The speaker on the tape, identified as Abu Hamza al-Muhajir, says he is confident victory will be achieved.

Mujahir is said to have taken over al-Qaeda in Iraq after the killing of Abu Musab al-Zarqawi in June.

More:http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/5325590.stm

Two for the price one, perhaps they can't catapult an OBL tape far enough?

Edit: for typo.
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Up2Late Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-07-06 03:24 PM
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9. BBC News has the video on it's website, looks like someone's home video
...was spliced into their training camp home video. <http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/5325590.stm>

What I want to know is why we haven't destroyed this source of these videos, al-Qaeda's "as-Sahab Institute for Media Production," which looks to me, a professional video editor, like very professional video productions, which are of the quality of a large video production facility with large, expensive machines. This does NOT look like, to me, something that can be done on a lap-top computer.

And why are we paying a U.S. Government contractor to produce and sell these videos on DVD for $39.99 each?

By your copy later today at the link below:
<http://www.intelcenter.com/audio-video/qaeda.html>
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Breeze54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-07-06 03:55 PM
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10. What little I saw on a tv blurb....
Edited on Thu Sep-07-06 04:04 PM by Breeze54
looked like a comedy sketch or a comedy video that would be posted on You Tube!
I haven't seen the whole thing on TV yet...waiting for the news...

I was under the assumption it had been released by 'b* Co'... no? :shrug:
My local news keeps saying it's a 'developing news" story and they've been
saying that for the last two hours...

Ok...they're showing it now, they're saying that two of the hihjackers are seen on the tape
and also the last will and testament of two of the hijackers, is also on the tape,
but my news is NOT making a big deal about it...sort of a run of the mill story.
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Up2Late Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-07-06 04:27 PM
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14. Are any of them asking why, after 5 years, Bush still hasn't caught...
...him "dead or alive," like he said he would?:shrug:

Damn "liberal media." :eyes: :sarcasm:
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Eurobabe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-07-06 04:01 PM
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11. Now all of a sudden OBL is important again
so we'll be hearing from Osama in the Box 24/7.
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Up2Late Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-07-06 04:23 PM
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12. Funny how that happens, huh? I still remember the comment about...
...NOT "...rolling out a 'new product' before Labor Day..."

Who was it who said that? Rove? Cheney?
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kysrsoze Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-07-06 04:25 PM
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13. Just how is this 5-year-old tape relevant to ANYTHING now?
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-07-06 04:31 PM
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15. Good question.
I can imagine how a five year old Osama tape could have anything to do with solving this Jonbenet Ramsey case.
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Henny Penny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-07-06 04:49 PM
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19. Well according to the al jazeera site, the video shows
OBL and the gang planning 911. I haven't seen it myself yet.

But could it be that the MIHOPERS are gaining so much ground someone felt they had to release this footage? The 5 year anniversary is proably just long enough to allow some serious public reflection and it is pretty clear than many questions still have to be answered. Perhaps there were a few opinion pieces due to raise the issue... until this video was released of course, satisifying all our curiosity.



I wonder if the admin has had any private polls taken on this issue.
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HuffleClaw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-07-06 04:46 PM
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18. oh, i'm sure a NEW video of 'osama' will appear soon enough
THIS one is merely the preview. this fearmongering crap is getting downright silly.
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geek tragedy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-07-06 04:33 PM
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16. Well, bin Laden has his own state--the Islamic Emirate of Waziristan--
thanks to Bush now.

Useful reminder of the utter failure of Bush's approach to national security.
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IChing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-07-06 04:42 PM
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17. I have the phone call recording here: !!!!!!
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heliarc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 05:25 AM
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29. I thought...
The call was going to be between bush and Osama ... BUSH:" Hey there You-SAMA?... Uh, yeah, could you get me some hijackers to hit the WTC and start a war between our two religions? My Carlyle buddies at United Defense and Halliburton are worried that their shares are on a downturn and we need a good war quick... oh, and this helps my buddy Larry too... Thanks buddy, your the greatest."

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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 08:44 AM
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33. your posting isn't far off, bush is doing that exactly!
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u4ic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 01:58 AM
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20. Bin Laden 9/11 planning video aired
Just days before the fifth anniversary of the Sept. 11 attacks, a videotape of previously unaired footage of Osama bin Laden and two of the hijackers surfaced Thursday.

The videotape, believed to be shot in Afghanistan in the weeks before the attack, was shown on the Arab television channel Al-Jazeera.

It includes scenes of men handling weapons and box cutters, and training to overpower others physically.

In one scene, bin Laden addresses the camera, calling on followers to support the hijackers.

http://www.cbc.ca/story/world/national/2006/09/07/al-qaeda-tape.html
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951-Riverside Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 01:59 AM
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21. I saw a pocket knife but not a box cutter
Also why is the story is trying to suggest they trained in Afghanistan before the attacks?. :shrug:
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daleo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 01:59 AM
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22. It sounds like Bin Laden thought they were using guns
""I ask you to pray for them and to ask God to make them successful, aim their shots well, set their feet strong and strengthen their hearts," bin Laden said."

Which doesn't really line up with the official story.

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seriousstan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 01:59 AM
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23. this is a standard prayer..."aim their shots well, set their feet strong..
I ask you to pray for them and to ask God to make them successful, aim their shots well, set their feet strong and strengthen their hearts
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daleo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 01:59 AM
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24. It would be nice to see some independent verification of that
"aim their shots well" doesn't seem very religious.
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seriousstan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 04:39 PM
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34. Sorry for the delay, it is difficult to find one of these islamo-fascists
Here you go......

In The Name Of Allah, Most Gracious, Most Merciful

O Allah! Make our shots hit their intended targets and fasten our feet firmly to the ground. All praise be to Allah, The Cherisher and Sustainer of the worlds. Peace and prayer be upon our prophet, Muhammad, his family, and his companions.

http://www.jihadunspun.com/newsarchive/article_internal.php?article=106321&list=/newsarchive/index.php&

Google for the sentence......O Allah! Make our shots hit their intended targets and fasten our feet firmly to the ground.

You will be MORE than convinced I am sure.
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kysrsoze Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 01:59 AM
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25. Provided by the CIA? Just HOW is this video relevant to anything
except an upcoming election?
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mogster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 01:59 AM
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26. It's top news here
The papers are printing it with an unuttered *phew* as they list this as proof the the conspiracy theories about 911 _finally_ can be laid to rest.
Some big pictures in these articles:
http://www.aftenposten.no/nyheter/uriks/article1450071.ece
http://www.dagbladet.no/nyheter/2006/09/07/476111.html

BBC article:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/5325590.stm
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heliarc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 05:28 AM
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30. Why?
Because no one can imagine that Bush and Osama don't have the same agenda? Their both war profiteers. If they've had this video all along it goes farther towards proving at least a LIHOP theory!!!
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brianzero Donating Member (5 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 02:41 AM
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27. Bin-Ladin Denies Involvement in the 9/11 Attacks
This is a quite interesting interview with OBL. If this is true, it changes absolutely everything about 9/11.

http://911review.com/articles/usamah/khilafah.html

(Taken from the interview)

Osama:

"I have already said that I am not involved in the 11 September attacks in the United States. As a Muslim, I try my best to avoid telling a lie. I had no knowledge of these attacks, nor do I consider the killing of innocent women, children and other humans as an appreciable act. Islam strictly forbids causing harm to innocent women, children and other people. Such a practice is forbidden even in the course of a battle. It is the United States, which is perpetrating every maltreatment on women, children and common people of other faiths, particularly the followers of Islam. All that is going on in Palestine for the last 11 months is sufficient to call the wrath of God upon the United States and Israel. There is also a warning for those Muslim countries, which witnessed all these as a silent spectator. What had earlier been done to the innocent people of Iraq, Chechnya and Bosnia? Only one conclusion could be derived from the indifference of the United States and the West to these acts of terror and the patronage of the tyrants by these powers that America is an anti-Islamic power and it is patronizing the anti-Islamic forces. Its friendship with the Muslim countries is just a show, rather deceit. By enticing or intimidating these countries, the United States is forcing them to play a role of its choice. Put a glance all around and you will see that the slaves of the United States are either rulers or enemies of Muslims."
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magellan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 02:55 AM
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28. I was thinking of this very thing earlier
Why would bin Laden begin by denying having anything to do with the 9-11 attacks? Terrorists always want to claim responsibility for their acts; without making their agenda known to sympathizers and opponents alike, the effort is wasted.

Welcome to DU, brianzero!
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leesa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 08:17 AM
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31. Another Bush/Cheney Production. I wonder if their bogus film company
is called 'Pre-election Productions'
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 08:42 AM
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32. what BS what did bush do call his friend Bin Laden up
to have this video shown.
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