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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-07-06 12:16 PM
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Eavesdropping Bill Stalls in Committee
Eavesdropping Bill Stalls in Committee
By LAURIE KELLMAN , 09.07.2006, 01:02 PM

President Bush's support proved insufficient to push a bill authorizing his warrantless wiretapping program through the Senate Judiciary Committee Thursday.

Sen. Arlen Specter, the committee's chairman, said the bill stalled because of election-year obstructionism.

"We have seen the incipient stage of filibuster by amendment," the Pennsylvania Republican testily declared as he called off a vote to move his bill to the Senate floor. "Filibuster by speech, filibuster by amendment. Obstructionism."

The target of his ire was Sen. Russell Feingold, D-Wis., who spoke against the bill for about a quarter of the panel's two-hour meeting and offered four amendments. Feingold, a possible presidential candidate, said Specter's bill would give the White House too much power to eavesdrop without a warrant in some circumstances.
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http://www.forbes.com/entrepreneurs/entresales/feeds/ap/2006/09/07/ap3000579.html

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MrModerate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-07-06 12:20 PM
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1. Clearly, it's only OK when Republicans use . . .
established procedures to have their concerns heard in committee. If Democrats use such procedures, it's "obstructionism."

The 'Licans aren't trying to get anything passed, just show that they're they only party you can trust to keep Osama bin Laden out of your underwear drawer.
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Vincardog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-07-06 12:23 PM
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2. As long as SOMEBODY keeps the NeoConvicts out of my underwear drawer
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loves_dulcinea Donating Member (384 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-07-06 08:00 PM
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20. by replacing him with bush!
Edited on Thu Sep-07-06 08:03 PM by loves_dulcinea
open the drawer and there he is! PEEP-EYE!!!!
d'oh! i thought you'd written obl. i'm dyslexic. DYSLEXICS UNTIE!
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SteppingRazor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-07-06 12:23 PM
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3. "The target of his ire was Sen. Russell Feingold..."
The more I hear about Russ, the more I like him.
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NoodleyAppendage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-07-06 12:23 PM
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4. Feingold = I Am Legend.
Except in his case, Feingold isn't fighting the living dead. He's working against the fascist dead.

J
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-07-06 12:23 PM
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5. Good for you Russ Feingold and Thank YOU very much.
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bowens43 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-07-06 12:24 PM
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6. Anything other then total capitulation is obstructionism. nt
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-07-06 12:26 PM
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7. Russ says it well here:


....."The president has basically said: I'll agree to let a court decide if I'm breaking the law if you pass a law first that says I'm not breaking the law," Feingold said. "That won't help re-establish a healthy respect for separation of powers. It will only make matters worse."

The super-secret National Security Agency's surveillance program, created after the Sept. 11 attacks, monitors phone calls and e-mails between terrorism suspects overseas and people on American soil. News reports in December disclosed the program.

The need for Congress to give legal status to the program gained a sense of urgency last month when a federal judge in Detroit ruled that it violated rights to free speech and privacy as well as constitutional separation of powers.

The administration has appealed that ruling, contending that the president, as commander in chief, is justified in taking action to protect the nation during times of war.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-07-06 12:30 PM
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9. Specter's bill was negotiated with the administration--AKA CHENEY!


Specter's bill was negotiated with the administration. It would submit the program to a special court for a one-time constitutional review, expand the time for emergency warrants from three to seven days and require the attorney general to inform Congress's intelligence committees on the program's activities every six months.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-07-06 12:33 PM
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11. Specter grumbledL---the WH would continue wiretapping unchecked. yes

he may be right. yet which is worse?


......Opposition to the bill was no surprise. Feingold and five other senators, three of them Republicans, wrote Specter a day earlier complaining that a new version of his bill should be studied further before the panel votes.

Forced to delay his committee's vote, Specter grumbled that without his legislation the White House would continue its domestic wiretapping program virtually unchecked by the courts.

One such measure, backed by a group of moderate Senate Republicans, poses the biggest threat to Specter's bill because it would impose tighter restrictions on the administration's power to wiretap. The House, too, was considering a measure that would impose tougher checks on the president's power.



Relevant bills are S 2453, S 2468, S2455, S3001, S2831, HR 4976, HR 5371, HR 5825
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-07-06 01:36 PM
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14. The same terms that they give everyone
"First you give up, then we'll talk"

In Iraq, in Iran.. and the same tactic was used against Hezbollah..

(they keep using it because it works so well:sarcasm: )
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MessiahRp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-07-06 12:27 PM
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8. Yay for Russ Feingold
Arlen Specter can fuck off... him and his Magic Bullet Theories.

Rp
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NOLADEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-07-06 12:31 PM
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10. Feingold is my candidate thus far for 08,
Can I get some info from those who oppose him as the nominee as to why?

It is early, and I am still very open. I like him though. And he doesn't have those votes that haunt him. He has chutzpah.

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havocmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-07-06 12:37 PM
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12. First Bolton vote, now this. GOP is running scared. Won't go on record
this close to election?

Election year obstructionism? Yeah, by the party in power!

Chicken shit chicken hawks. All bluster and no guts.
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sinkingfeeling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-07-06 01:31 PM
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13. Excellent! We have to keep the pressure on!!
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CantGetFooledAgain Donating Member (635 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-07-06 03:34 PM
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15. Go Russ!
And FU very much, Arlen Specter.
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peacebird Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-07-06 04:15 PM
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16. glimmers of hope....
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Nictuku Donating Member (907 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-07-06 04:26 PM
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17. Go Russ!!!
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Supersedeas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-07-06 04:52 PM
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18. Rubber stamp Specter showing his true colors
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-07-06 05:10 PM
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19. delays are good news. Let them squable and let the WH squirm
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