Goss says the U.S. has an `excellent idea' of bin Laden's location

[sabra]

http://www.montereyherald.com/mld/montereyherald/news/politics/15455974.htm

Goss says the U.S. has an `excellent idea' of bin Laden's location


WASHINGTON - U.S. Rep. Porter Goss of Sanibel, Fla., and U.S. Sen. Bob Graham of Florida were at the Capitol having breakfast together on Sept.11, 2001,when they learned two planes had crashed into the World Trade Center.

The two leaders of congressional intelligence committees - Goss in the House, Graham in the Senate - would oversee the investigation into what went wrong with the nation's security network.

Goss went on to become head of the CIA. Five years later, Goss offers his assessments of the impact of that day in wide-ranging conversations with the Orlando Sentinel's Mark Matthews.

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Q: About a year ago you mentioned we had an "excellent idea" of the location of Osama bin Laden. Where do we stand now?

GOSS: We have an excellent idea of his location.

[booley]

1. if I were to hazerd a guess

I'd say he's right where a certain "ally" of the US said they wouldnt' arrest him.

[saigon68]

17. Osama is in a lounge chair on Miami Beach this morning.

He is about to drink a Mimosa.

[pinerow]

21. Saw him at The Clevelander on South Beach...

nt

[saigon68]

50. LOL

[LiberalFighter]

55. With Bush Daddy & Viagra Bob

[Demeter]

18. Next to Saddam's WMD's, of Course! n/t

[The_Casual_Observer]

2. That guy is reagan-like brain dead:

"One of the things people forget about 9-11 is that no one had heard of Osama bin Laden at that point and no one knew what an Osama bin Laden was."


He is seriously fucked up.

[sandnsea]

14. And no follow-up

He was just allowed to spew that shit with not so much as a "say what?". I emailed the paper, these people have got to do their jobs.

[Irreverend IX]

19. No one had heard of him?

You mean, apart from the Time Magazine interview and the regular news spots? Where do they find these mouth-breathing cretins?

[jpak]

40. I do believe a President Clinton knew and attacked his base with Tomahawks

Good call on the BS...

[SharonAnn]

46. Good grief! I knew of him way before 9-11. He was KNOWN!!!!

If Porter Goss and his cohorts didn't know of him, then no wonder we got attacked. They weren't paying attention.

[savemefromdumbya]

3. would be the location heaven or hell? Colin Powell said he was dead

[Psephos]

4. Now, roll out the Pink Floyd fog machines...

...and let the mists swallow up OBL once more.

It's like Brigadoon.

Peace.

[sutz12]

5. Yep....that;s why they had the Pakistani's cordon off the area...

wouldn't want any rogue friendlies to go in and finish him off before they want them to. :evilgrin:

[struggle4progress]

54. Pak offers 'peaceful' Osama a safe haven

Chidanand Rajghatta
7 Sep, 2006 0002hrs ISTTIMES NEWS NETWORK

WASHINGTON: ... The Pakistani suggestion that bin Laden, the world's most wanted terrorist, could be its untroubled guest came in course of an interview to ABC News by its spokesman Maj. Gen Shaukat Sultan.

If he is in Pakistan, bin Laden "would not be taken into custody," Major General Shaukat Sultan told ABC News in an interview, "as long as one is being like a peaceful citizen."

Sultan's comments came in the context of questions in the US about the withdrawal of Pakistani military from Waziristan under a deal with pro-Taliban militants, a development that has been greeted in the US media with headlines such as "Pakistan surrenders to Taliban."

US analysts, who unlike administration officials have been leery of Pakistan's commitment in the war on terror, are now questioning whether this means Islamabad is giving Taliban, al-Qaida, and Osama bin Laden a free pass in the region and what happens if the fugitives move there ...

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/articleshow/1964216.cms

[daleo]

6. Somewhere east, west, north or south of Baghdad

At least that's what Rummy thinks. He is hiding with the WMDs.

[rpannier]

7. Check the Lincoln Bedroom...

I think that's where he's been staying the last four years.

[Born Free]

12. I f not the Lincoln bedroom,

check out the so-called "ranch" where the bush coward spends all his vacation time

[trogdor]

30. Or at Camp David.

I hear Maryland is really nice this time of year.

[Thor_MN]

45. Or Chenney's bunker....

[Jack Rabbit]

8. Not any more.

We don't have any idea where Osama is any more. That's assuming we did until this dimwit shot off his big mouth.

[Eurobabe]

9. Where, in Cheney's bunker, all safe and sound?

Ready to pop out of his Osama box when they need to terrorize more people for the November elections?

[Earth_First]

10. Yet somehow there will be no follow through...

this story will fade into the collective memoryhole, the article will appear as a dead link on November 9th, and they will show a docudrama blaming Clinton for Osama's on-the-run 'freedom'.

[SKKY]

11. This is quite typical...

Say you have a good idea of someones location, hope he moves, and hope he stirs up some dust in the
process so you can find him. Basically, we don't have the first clue as to where
he's at.

[sandnsea]

13. Email Addresses Here

Scroll down to National/Foreign News and Page One
I emailed Mark Matthews, Tamara Lytle and Ann Hellmuth - fwiw

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/about/orl-newsroom,0,7441013.htmlstory

[ConcernedCanuk]

15. Me too, - I think he's in a pig farm in Crawford

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and the USA has spent over half a trillion dollars to catch one man?

Nahhh

OBL is just the old "bait and switch" routine that Korporations have used as a marketing tool for decades -

Get the taxpayers $$ to fight "terrorism" then use the $$ to further their own Korporate agenda.

It's working . . .

(sigh)

[skids]

16. This will be an interesting excercise.

The PR is aligning for a Bin Laden event. What kind of event? A failed capture attempt.

They won't actually capture Bin Laden, they will "fail" to capture Bin Laden. They will "come really really close" to capturing him. There will probably be some cooked up video to show on the idiot box, and most importantly, the reason they "fail" to capture him will somehow be the fault of everyone who criticises Bush.

Anyway, that's where I'm putting my money.

[leesa]

20. Goss was involved up to his neck in 9-11

Of course he knows where OBL is. He's dead.

[raccoon]

24. I think OBL is dead too. But he's a convenient boogeyman,

so this is kept classified top secret.

His death may be revealed at a time when the current administration really needs it. Even then, his remains may be found in the remnants of a fire, making it appear, without further investigation, that he died in the fire.

[pcboss49]

22. I think I saw him in line for tryouts for American Idol

[KamaAina]

39. Nah, he's too old

:P

[Robb]

23. "I'm standing directly under the Earth's sun ... NOW!"

:eyes:

[DrDan]

25. I smell an "October Surprise"

[Silvermint]

29. Yep,

my thoughts exactly. Even if they don't pull him out, making noises that suggested capture is imminent might have the same "we're on top of the war on turr" effect.

[Javaman]

26. You know I'm really glad he does, because now

that Pakistan has decided to play nice with OBL, it's sooooo refreshing that porter, damn this is a lot of work, goss has an idea where he is.

What a colossal fucktard. Damn it.

Fuck, anyone with a quarter of a clue could point you to where OBL is, Pakistan just painted a bullseye on the area and gave OBL a get out of jail free card.

We are Brazil.

[Jawja]

27. Boy, they are pulling

out all of the stops, aren't they?

They so desperately want this election to be about the attacks on the World Trade Center and Washington and NOT their illegal invasion and occupation of Iraq. They are really pounding that issue home.

[demo dutch]

28. Is this going to be the November surprise?

[Chemical Bill]

31. Goss: " We are sitting here with our thumbs up our asses"

"isn't it enough for us to have an idea where he is? Do we actually have to do something?"

[tabasco]

32. Then why the hell isn't the entire US Army on top of that location???

We know damn well it's not IRAQ !!!

These people don't want to catch Bin Laden. They need him for a

BOOGIE MAN!!

[olddad56]

33. I think they have his where abouts narrowed down to this planet.

[WhiteTara]

34. North, East, South and somewhat to the West of

Tikrit....oh wait that was the WMD's

[Solly Mack]

35. Goss quote

"One of the things people forget about 9-11 is that no one had heard of Osama bin Laden at that point and no one knew what an Osama bin Laden was."


Yeah? Odd



http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/08/27/AR2006082700687.html

"Al-Qaeda leader Osama bin Laden is a longtime and prominent member of the FBI's "Ten Most Wanted" list, which notes his role as the suspected mastermind of the deadly U.S. embassy bombings in East Africa on Aug. 7, 1998"

From June of 1999 -when bin Laden was put on the FBI's "Most Wanted" list

http://www.fbi.gov/wanted/topten/fugitives/laden.htm

[Megahurtz]

36. Thwwwwatahaha!

:spray: Gee.....ya think?

:sarcasm:

[Supersedeas]

37. It is almost O C T O B E R....the OBL quotation have a purpose--to prime

the political pump -- the Corp Media is ready for the Election Cycle public tweeking.

[anotherdrew]

38. these ASSes have said this shit over and over, DO SOMETHING THEN!

worthless shitforbrains republicans can't seem to think.

[lutefisk]

41. In the studio taping the fall season of specials?

The October show will air on every network, I assume.

[ThsMchneKilsFascists]

42. You mean the Porter Goss who admitted he was unqualified to be in the CIA

and is now running it?

REP. GOSS: It is true I was in CIA from approximately the late 50's to approximately the early 70's. And it's true I was a case officer, clandestine services office and yes I do understand the core mission of the business. I couldn't get a job with CIA today. I am not qualified. I don't have the language skills. I, you know, my language skills were romance languages and stuff. We're looking for Arabists today. I don't have the cultural background probably. And I certainly don't have the technical skills, uh, as my children remind me every day, "Dad you got to get better on your computer." Uh, so, the things that you need to have, I don't have.

Run, Porter, Run

[PassingFair]

43. DEFROST setting. ...n/t

[Biernuts]

44. We probably do know the general area where OBL is holed up

But, since the most likely place is in Pakistan, in an area where the central government is as welcome as is the ATF in the Idaho back woods, we face a situation with no good options.

If we ignore Pakistan's sovereignty and execute a capture/kill, their government likely would fall and be replaced by one ruled by islamic extremists - with the potential for them to share their nuclear arsenal with terrorists.

As much as I want OBL beheaded live on international TV, I'd pass that up to keep the nukes away from terrorists.

[VegasWolf]

49. Odd, capturing OBL is what most of us here believe a REAL administration

would do to stymie terror.

[VegasWolf]

47. Yes, he lives in Bush's Hole, TX. nt

[stepnw1f]

48. Then Why Not Get Him Mr. Balless?

Or are you just full of shit and balless?

[ryanmuegge]

51. It doesn't matter because they want to keep the guy alive...

It's their strategic vision to keep him alive, I believe. They could have EASILY had him at Tora Bora. They want to keep some structure in Al Qaeada and not allow him to be a martyr. Also, he's an identifiable boogeyman and that works great in campaigning.

[0007]

52. If only John O'Neil were alive today he'd knock Goss on his cock

Mr. O'Neil died in the WTC on 911

[Wise Doubter]

53. I thought he was going to say he was at the Marriot. n/t

[humbled_opinion]

56. He is the one under the Goofy custome at Disney World n/t

[Dem2theMax]

57. He's in the freezer, just behind the bag of chicken wings. nt.

[MiniMe]

58. I know too, he is in the Middle East

Do I win a prize?:think:

[oblivious]

59. Porter and Goss were having breakfast with the Al-qaeda moneyman on 911.

Funny these articles always seem to omit that extraordinary tidbit.

In August 2001 Goss, Senator Bob Graham (D-Fl.), and Senator Jon Kyl visited Islamabad, Pakistan. Meetings were held with President Pervez Musharraf and with Pakistan's military and intelligence officials including the head of Pakistan’s Inter Services Intelligence (ISI) General Mahmoud Ahmad, as well as with the Afghan ambassador to Pakistan, Abdul Salam Zaeef. On the morning 11 September, 2001, Goss and Graham were having breakfast with General Ahmad.<2><3> Ahmad's network had ties to Osama bin Laden and directly funded, supported, and trained the Taliban

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Porter_J._Goss#Intelligence_inquiry:_Sept._11.2C_2001

According to the FBI, Indian Intelligence and several press reports, the ISI Head was instrumental in providing financial support to the 9/11 terrorists. General Mahmoud Ahmad had allegedly ordered the transfer of $100.000 to the presumed 9/11 ring-leader Mohamed Atta.

On the morning of September 11, the three lawmakers Bob Graham, Porter Goss and Jon Kyl (who were part of the Congressional delegation to Pakistan) were having breakfast on Capitol Hill with General Ahmad, the alleged "money-man" (to use the FBI expression) behind the 9/11 hijackers. Also present at this meeting were Pakistan's ambassador to the U.S. Maleeha Lodhi and several members of the Senate and House Intelligence committees. This meeting was described by one press report as a "follow-up meeting" to that held in Pakistan in late August.

When the twin towers were attacked, General Mahmoud Ahmad, head of Pakistan's intelligence service, was, in Senator Graham's own words, "very empathetic, sympathetic to the people of the United States," (Stuart News Company Press Journal (Vero Beach, FL), September 12, 2001).

Bob Graham's description of the General Ahmad, contrasts with that of the Washington Post:

"On the morning of Sept. 11, Goss and Graham were having breakfast with a Pakistani general named Mahmud Ahmed - the soon-to-be-sacked head of Pakistan's intelligence service. Ahmed ran a spy agency notoriously close to Osama bin Laden and the Taliban." (Washington Post, 18 May 2002).

http://www.globalresearch.ca/articles/CHO308C.html

[truthisfreedom]

60. i think my jaw will split from yawning.

i'm so over this bullshit.

[goforit]

61. But let's keep the Boogieman free, alive and well, Bush can have WAR

:sarcasm:

[mvd]

62. If they have an excellent idea..

then they should have captured him by now. He's certainly a large target. People are right that they want him out there spreading fear. This Bush regime is just using him.

[Barrett808]

63. k&r for "trail is stone cold" story n/t