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sabra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-03-06 02:49 PM
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Netanyahu to meet with US VP on talks on Iran

http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1154525995207&pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull

Netanyahu to meet with US VP on talks on Iran


Opposition leader Binyamin Netanyahu will leave to Washington on Monday for meetings with US Vice President Dick Cheney and senators about the threat from Iran.

Prime Minister Ehud Olmert spoke to Netanyahu for five minutes on the phone on Sunday and briefed him ahead of the trip. Netanyahu said that he would raise the issue of Israel's kidnapped soldiers in all of his meetings in Washington.

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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-03-06 02:51 PM
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1. oh geez, somethings a coming.
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eccles12 Donating Member (385 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-04-06 07:47 AM
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31. Cheny is getting his final orders to take back to Bush on Iran. nt
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Trajan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-03-06 02:57 PM
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2. One might call this ....
Conspiracy to commit murder ....
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-03-06 02:59 PM
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3. Neocon Alert! Bibi meets with his pal Cheney to conspire on the next war
We must resist the rush to war on Iran before we are all destroyed by this insanity.

Even most DLCers think that it would be crazy to go to war against Iran.
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jeff30997 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-03-06 03:01 PM
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4. Netanyahu can go fuck a goat!!!
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WhiteTara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-03-06 03:07 PM
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5. poor goat n/t
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InkAddict Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-03-06 03:08 PM
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6. My Pet Goat n/t
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-03-06 03:10 PM
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7. He already does: his crazy wife Sara!
Sara Netanyahu is a kosher version of Imelda Marcos, and she has said some horrible things before, like when she wished Israel would burn for the defeat of her husband.


Sarah Netanyahu: allegedly sacked a nanny for
burning the soup

Friday, 6 September, 2002, 02:13 GMT 03:13 UK
Netanyahu wife apologises


The wife of former Israeli prime minister Binyamin Netanyahu has apologised over leaked remarks in which she said the couple may leave Israel because her husband is not appreciated there.

In taped remarks from a phone call played on Israeli television, Sara Netanyahu said that "this country can burn" and claimed that without her husband, the people of Israel "would be slaughtered", the Associated Press news agency reported.

"When the country is in flames, when there are terror attacks ...there is one person who can save this country," she added, referring to her husband in the conversation by his nickname Bibi.

"Bibi is a leader who is greater than this entire country, he really is a leader on a national scale... this country can't survive without Bibi."

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/low/middle_east/2239788.stm

Tuesday, 19 May, 1998, 15:51 GMT 16:51 UK
Netanyahu's wife in new row

A new row has broken out in Israel over comments allegedly made about the wife of the Prime Minister, Binyamin Netanyahu, by his senior adviser.

Quoted in an interview with the American magazine,The New Yorker, the adviser, David Bar-Illan, is alleged to have made comments about Sarah Netanyahu's stability.

The interview quotes Mr Bar-Illan as saying Mrs Netanyahu "is not the most stable woman in the world."

He allegedly went on to say she is okay now, because she has become boring to other Israelis.

This is an apparent reference to previous interest in Israel in Mrs Netanyahu's treatment of her domestic staff, including a nanny who was reportedly sacked for burning the soup, and other such titillating gossip.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/96828.stm

Netanyahu's wife sees leftist threat to his life
Israel, Politics, 11/5/1997


Israel's first lady, Sara Netanyahu, accused left-wing opposition leaders of inciting violence against her husband ahead of the second anniversary of the assassination of former Prime Minister Yitzhak Rabin.

"My husband is the target of a campaign of provocation, not from a little band of extremists but from leaders of the opposition who have taken an irresponsible path which could lead to another tragedy," Netanyahu said in a radio interview.

She did not describe the alleged provocation against her husband, Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, or single out specific opposition leaders.

But her charges coincided with revived accusations from the left that Netanyahu played a key role in whipping up anti-government agitation prior to Rabin's assassination.

http://www.arabicnews.com/ansub/Daily/Day/971105/1997110523.html
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Pharaoh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-03-06 03:25 PM
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8. OH GOD!
The nut bags truly are in charge of the world!!
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Fredda Weinberg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-03-06 06:23 PM
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17. Bibi's not in the government
He's in opposition. It says so, right in the OP
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-03-06 08:52 PM
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18. Considering the hot water that Olmert and Peretz are in
the fall of the current coalition government is more likely than not, and Bibi will become PM.
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Fredda Weinberg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-03-06 09:04 PM
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21. You wish
The reality is the government is stable precisely because the public doesn't want the right wing to have a second chance. When they rejected the withdrawal from Gaza, they confronted the majority view that Israelis want to disengage from Palestinians and their problems. Olmert represents the conservative right wing, Peretz the labor party. Shimon Perez is also part of Kadimah. Now that's stability, despite the scandals, which are nothing new.
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Zhade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-03-06 09:47 PM
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25. The only flaw with your argument...
...is that Olmert IS a rightwinger, as you note. So it looks like the rightwing already got that chance.

Netanyahu and Olmert are two sides of the same rightwing expansionist coin.



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Fredda Weinberg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-03-06 10:09 PM
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26. No, kadimah is all about not holding on to Arab majorities
I know what you want to believe, but Bibi's not in kadimah for a reason. Olmert did a decent job as mayor of Jerusalem, which surprised some of us who were paying attention after Kollek lost.

But of course, you've been paying close attention to Israeli domestic politics as well, haven't you?
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Zhade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-04-06 12:30 AM
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29. Not as much as their foreign policy, no.
I know a bit about the land scandals, but mainly I focus on how the rightwing Israeli government indiscriminately bombs innocent people.

(What kind of response did you expect? I'm not rabidly pro-Israel to the point of blindness, so of course I don't obsess over Israel's domestic policies.)

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InkAddict Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-03-06 03:57 PM
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12. Don't cry for me, Is-ra-el-i?
The truth is I never left you
All through my wild days
My mad existence
I kept my promise
Don't keep your distance

Pre-Evita crazymaking: Love me - go away!
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-03-06 06:00 PM
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16. she is as whacked as pickles!
Edited on Sun Sep-03-06 06:00 PM by leftchick
perhaps more so. :puke:
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-03-06 03:27 PM
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9. a pair of nut cases with WAY to much power.
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acmavm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-03-06 03:40 PM
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10. So, will the bombs start to drop before or after the November elections?
I cannot imagine so much evil in one room.

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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-03-06 03:45 PM
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11. Maybe they will go hunting.
:evilgrin:
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HuffleClaw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-03-06 05:06 PM
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13. a TRUTHFUL headline: "Netanyahu to plan coming Iran war with Cheney"
pretty transparent. and when it DOES come, they'll play all innocent of course.
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Totally Committed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-03-06 05:20 PM
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14. Cheney and Netanyahu... Dick and Bibi...
"birds of a feather......" and all that. You'll be able to cut the evil in that room with a snowplow.

TC
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daleo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-03-06 05:34 PM
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15. This can't be good
You probably couldn't find two men more eager for a U.S.-Iran war in the entire world.
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sofa king Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-03-06 08:54 PM
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19. Planning Olmert's stroke is more likely.
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PaDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-03-06 08:59 PM
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20. This is awful news........
nothing good will come of this.
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geek tragedy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-03-06 09:05 PM
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22. So, now the Neocons are undermining Olmert.
For everyone who thinks that Bush is such a great friend of Israel or even a pawn of theirs, look at this.

He's actively undermining the current Israeli government so that the hardcore racist Likudniks can get back into power.

A pox on any Democrat who poses for photos with Bibi.
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bigluckyfeet Donating Member (559 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-03-06 11:21 PM
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28. Isn't that Wonderful
Dick having a meeting with someone not even in office to plot the next attack.
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Drum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-03-06 09:24 PM
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23. Oh perfect...
Edited on Sun Sep-03-06 09:27 PM by Drum
what kind of solution might the Hawks come up with, I wonder? :sarcasm:

Bibi is the new Chalabi, an un-official shmo who will tell the WH what they want to hear.
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Zhade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-03-06 09:41 PM
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24. A little background, for those who don't know...
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article1438.htm

Following is a report prepared by The Institute for Advanced Strategic and Political Studies’ "Study Group on a New Israeli Strategy Toward 2000." The main substantive ideas in this paper emerge from a discussion in which prominent opinion makers, including Richard Perle, James Colbert, Charles Fairbanks, Jr., Douglas Feith, Robert Loewenberg, David Wurmser, and Meyrav Wurmser participated. The report, entitled "A Clean Break: A New Strategy for Securing the Realm," is the framework for a series of follow-up reports on strategy.

Israel has a large problem. Labor Zionism, which for 70 years has dominated the Zionist movement, has generated a stalled and shackled economy. Efforts to salvage Israel’s socialist institutions—which include pursuing supranational over national sovereignty and pursuing a peace process that embraces the slogan, "New Middle East"—undermine the legitimacy of the nation and lead Israel into strategic paralysis and the previous government’s "peace process." That peace process obscured the evidence of eroding national critical mass— including a palpable sense of national exhaustion—and forfeited strategic initiative. The loss of national critical mass was illustrated best by Israel’s efforts to draw in the United States to sell unpopular policies domestically, to agree to negotiate sovereignty over its capital, and to respond with resignation to a spate of terror so intense and tragic that it deterred Israelis from engaging in normal daily functions, such as commuting to work in buses.

Benjamin Netanyahu’s government comes in with a new set of ideas. While there are those who will counsel continuity, Israel has the opportunity to make a clean break; it can forge a peace process and strategy based on an entirely new intellectual foundation, one that restores strategic initiative and provides the nation the room to engage every possible energy on rebuilding Zionism, the starting point of which must be economic reform. To secure the nation’s streets and borders in the immediate future, Israel can:

Work closely with Turkey and Jordan to contain, destabilize, and roll-back some of its most dangerous threats. This implies clean break from the slogan, "comprehensive peace" to a traditional concept of strategy based on balance of power.
Change the nature of its relations with the Palestinians, including upholding the right of hot pursuit for self defense into all Palestinian areas and nurturing alternatives to Arafat’s exclusive grip on Palestinian society.
Forge a new basis for relations with the United States—stressing self-reliance, maturity, strategic cooperation on areas of mutual concern, and furthering values inherent to the West. This can only be done if Israel takes serious steps to terminate aid, which prevents economic reform.


More sickening pro-fascist spew at link - note the involvement of Meyrav Wurmser, the founder of MEMRI that 'translated' the 'Hezbollah child soldiers' propaganda.

I'd say 'enjoy' but this isn't pleasant reading.

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stepnw1f Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-03-06 10:23 PM
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27. Enter Dark Side Music (nt)
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Joe Bacon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-04-06 08:47 AM
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32. I wonder if the Insane Clown Possee had Hagee there, too?
Edited on Mon Sep-04-06 08:47 AM by Joe Bacon
Only a matter of time before Israel nukes Iran, but this time Israel will get a nasty reply.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-04-06 10:01 AM
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33. Oh for pity's sake
not only is it highly unlikely that Israel will nuke Iran, it's highly unlikely that the U.S. will attack Iran. Not that they don't want to, just that it's not going to fly in the current political climate.
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Joe Bacon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-04-06 11:19 PM
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36. The attack on Iran has already been set.
They've already decided to attack Iran. Watch for Karl and the gang set another "terra attack" for October. It will give them the media spin they need to nuke Iran.
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-04-06 05:55 PM
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35. Remember back about 2 months ago?
BeBe started popping up all over the place. Every time I saw his mug on CNN, I wondered why he was in DC so often.. Lebanon and his interference now is why.. I think Olmert was "wimped" into war against Hezbollah.. Hezbollah was doing nothing "new".. There were always border skirmishes...It would not surprise me if BeBe instigated the latest transgression so he could pressure Olmert into rash actions...and good ole BeBBe would be there waiting in the wings to tidy up.. he has never gotten over being defeated and he wants back IN..
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