U.S. deaths in Iraq, war on terror surpass 9/11 toll

[Iceburg]

http://edition.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/meast/09/03/death.toll/

POSTED: 1855 GMT (0255 HKT), September 3, 2006

(CNN) -- As the fifth anniversary of the September 11, 2001, attack on the United States approaches, another somber benchmark has just been passed.

The announcement Sunday of four more U.S. military deaths in Iraq raises the death toll to 2,974 for U.S. military service members in Iraq and in what the Bush administration calls the war on terror.

The 9/11 attack killed 2,973 people, including Americans and foreign nationals but excluding the terrorists. The 9/11 death toll was calculated by CNN.

The comparison between fatalities in the war on terror and 9/11 was drawn last month by Gen. Peter Pace, chairman of the U.S. Joint Chiefs of Staff, during testimony before the Senate Armed Services Committee.

"It's now almost five years since September 11, 2001," Pace said. "And the number of young men and women in our armed forces who have sacrificed their lives that we might live in freedom is approaching the number of Americans who were murdered on 9/11 in New York, in Washington, D.C., and in Pennsylvania."
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[liberal N proud]

1. Is George W. Bu$h happy yet?

:cry: :cry: :cry:

[rodeodance]

2. WHOW. they actually did a headline about this.

[IndianaGreen]

3. Obviously non-American lives rate no higher than that of a flea!

The US has killed 100 innocent civilians for every person that died on WTC. Over 250,000 dead civilians in Iraq alone, and who knows how many we have killed in Afghanistan, or how many more we have executed or tortured to death in Bush's Gulag.

[rodeodance]

4. ok, We have met the biblical "eye for an eys"--Will the WH comes to its

senses now??

[truthisfreedom]

5. "...that we might live in freedom" is a nauseating leap of faith. all it

does (fighting in Iraq) is increase the terror of corporatism and shft the base of power. "that we might live in freedom" is a farce... we can't even carry on conversations on the phone anymore, or take bottled water on a plane.

[jeff30997]

6. "We have to fight them over there..."

Yeah right!

[ckramer]

7. "As long as Halliburton is profitable, what the hell do I care?"

War = Terrorism

[heidler1]

8. Stay the course seems to be the plan in regard to 9/11 as well.

Even though a pretty large percentage of US citizens believe that our Israeli policy is the prime underlying cause of 9/11 we never change it. This view is hushed up even here on DU. When Zogby polled Saudis as to why they joined the 9/11 terrorists those polled Saudis overwhelmingly put it on US aid to Israel which was to the detriment of Palestinians.

[enough]

9. The problem with this is that it lumps Iraq in with the "war on terror,"

as if Iraq was some sort of payback for 9-11. This just feeds the myth the regime wants us to believe.

If Iraq has anything at all to do with the "war on terror," it is to create more and more committed fighters against the USA.

[GeorgeGist]

10. Interesting equivalency...

given that Iraq had nothing to do with Sept 11.

[rodeodance]

11. NOMINATE

[rodeodance]

12. BushL Thrus: We will stay the course,

......In the post-invasion period, though, terror groups -- including al Qaeda in Iraq -- have emerged, regularly conducting ruthless attacks against coalition and Iraqi military personnel and civilians.

Thursday, Bush emphasized that "Iraq is the central front in this war on terror." (Full story)

"If we leave the streets of Baghdad before the job is done, we will have to face the terrorists in our own cities. We will stay the course, we will help this young Iraqi democracy succeed, and victory in Iraq will be a major ideological triumph in the struggle of the 21st century."(From Orange County to al Qaeda)

The death tolls in both conflicts are expected to rise.

"We've come a long way in Afghanistan. We've come a long way in Iraq and elsewhere in the war on terrorism," said Pace. "We have a long way to go. We are a nation at war."

[rodeodance]

14. 19,773 U.S. military personnel were wounded,

In Iraq, 19,773 U.S. military personnel were wounded, with 8,991 not returning to duty. Many military and medical observers believe that advanced and prompt medical care saved hundreds, or even thousands, of lives.

Operation Iraqi Freedom casualties include deaths and injuries on or after March 19, 2003, in the Arabian Sea, Bahrain, Gulf of Aden, Gulf of Oman, Iraq, Kuwait, Oman, Persian Gulf, Qatar, Red Sea, Saudi Arabia, and United Arab Emirates. Before March 19, 2003, the casualties in these countries were considered part of Operation Enduring Freedom.

The Bush administration has consistently linked the Afghan and Iraq conflicts as part of an overall war on terror -- a much-debated idea since many critics of the Bush administration say the Hussein regime was never involved in sponsoring the al Qaeda terror network.

In the post-invasion period, though, terror groups -- including al Qaeda in Iraq -- have emerged, regularly conducting ruthless attacks against coalition and Iraqi military personnel and civilians.

[rodeodance]

17. 8,991 not returning to duty.

In Iraq, 19,773 U.S. military personnel were wounded, with 8,991 not returning to duty. Many military and medical observers believe that advanced and prompt medical care saved hundreds, or even thousands, of lives.

Operation Iraqi Freedom casualties include deaths and injuries on or after March 19, 2003, in the Arabian Sea, Bahrain, Gulf of Aden, Gulf of Oman, Iraq, Kuwait, Oman, Persian Gulf, Qatar, Red Sea, Saudi Arabia, and United Arab Emirates. Before March 19, 2003, the casualties in these countries were considered part of Operation Enduring Freedom.

The Bush administration has consistently linked the Afghan and Iraq conflicts as part of an overall war on terror -- a much-debated idea since many critics of the Bush administration say the Hussein regime was never involved in sponsoring the al Qaeda terror network.

In the post-invasion period, though, terror groups -- including al Qaeda in Iraq -- have emerged, regularly conducting ruthless attacks against coalition and Iraqi military personnel and civilians.

Thursday, Bush emphasized that "Iraq is the central front in this war on terror." (Full story)

[rodeodance]

18. we will have to face the terrorists in our own cities.--says Bush

Thursday, Bush emphasized that "Iraq is the central front in this war on terror." (Full story)

"If we leave the streets of Baghdad before the job is done, we will have to face the terrorists in our own cities. We will stay the course, we will help this young Iraqi democracy succeed, and victory in Iraq will be a major ideological triumph in the struggle of the 21st century."(From Orange County to al Qaeda)

The death tolls in both conflicts are expected to rise.

"We've come a long way in Afghanistan. We've come a long way in Iraq and elsewhere in the war on terrorism," said Pace. "We have a long way to go. We are a nation at war."

[uppityperson]

13. Amazing headline. NOW can we stop?

Yes, Iraq had nothing true to do with 9/11 except for the fact that the administration ties them together. So now that "an eye for an eye" is done, even if Iraq had nothing to do with 9/11, can we stop now?

[rodeodance]

16. nope, the magic of Stay the Course still reigns.

[grytpype]

15. Wow, I can't believe it was Pace who said that.

His job is to cover Bush' ass. And he's the one who is making the comparison. I can't believe it.

[TexasLawyer]

19. U.S. deaths in Iraq, war on terror surpass 9/11 toll

Not that Iraq had anything to do with 9/11, but...

U.S. deaths in Iraq, war on terror surpass 9/11 toll
POSTED: 1855 GMT (0255 HKT), September 3, 2006

(CNN) -- As the fifth anniversary of the September 11, 2001, attack on the United States approaches, another somber benchmark has just been passed.

The announcement Sunday of four more U.S. military deaths in Iraq raises the death toll to 2,974 for U.S. military service members in Iraq and in what the Bush administration calls the war on terror. The 9/11 attack killed 2,973 people, including Americans and foreign nationals but excluding the terrorists. The 9/11 death toll was calculated by CNN.

The comparison between fatalities in the war on terror and 9/11 was drawn last month by Gen. Peter Pace, chairman of the U.S. Joint Chiefs of Staff, during testimony before the Senate Armed Services Committee.

"It's now almost five years since September 11, 2001," Pace said. "And the number of young men and women in our armed forces who have sacrificed their lives that we might live in freedom is approaching the number of Americans who were murdered on 9/11 in New York, in Washington, D.C., and in Pennsylvania."

Of the 2,974 U.S. military service members killed, 329 died in Operation Enduring Freedom and 2,645 in Operation Iraqi Freedom, according to the Pentagon. The total includes seven American civilian contractors working for the military in Iraq.

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http://edition.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/meast/09/03/death.toll/

[tuvor]

20. How long was it before 2,974 Iraqis were killed after bush invaded?

[countmyvote4real]

22. And they didn't have a dog in this hunt until then. n/t

[TexasLawyer]

23. good question

and probably the more apt comparison to 9/11.

I'll bet the US created that many Iraqi fatalities within the first few days of "shock and awe."

[Erika]

21. I'll never forget the 13 year old boy who got his limbs shot off

in W's shock and awe campaign on a country who never was a threat to us. Never.

[daleo]

24. God knows how many innocent Iraqis and Afghanis have lost their lives

Because of the western invasions. One hundred thousand? Two hundred thousand?

[rodeodance]

25. 329 died in Operation Enduring Freedom & 2,645 in Oper. Iraqi Freedom

Of the 2,974 U.S. military service members killed, 329 died in Operation Enduring Freedom and 2,645 in Operation Iraqi Freedom, according to the Pentagon. The total includes seven American civilian contractors working for the military in Iraq.

Of the 329 U.S. military deaths in the Operation Enduring Freedom campaign, 261 occurred in Afghanistan, including many in recent months amid a resurgent Taliban guerrilla campaign. Many British and Canadian troops have also been killed recently as part of the force that is operating against the Taliban in southern Afghanistan.

The first U.S. service member to die in the Enduring Freedom campaign was Air Force Sgt. Evander Earl Andrew, 36, of Solon, Maine, killed in a heavy equipment accident in the northern Arabian peninsula on October 10, 2001.

Operation Enduring Freedom saw 893 Americans wounded, with 552 not returned to duty.

[dbt]

26. December 8, 2006:

1. I have read that if current trends continue, this will be the date on which the number of American troops killed in Iraq will exceed the number of lives taken in the 9/11 attacks.

2. It will be twenty-six years to the day since the murder of John Winston Ono Lennon.

:freak:
dbt
Remember New Orleans

[Azathoth]

27. Take that Osama!

Dubya huffed, and puffed, and killed just as many innocent Americans as you did.

:argh: