Bush: Iraq has not fallen into civil war (radio address)

[leftchick]

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060902/ap_on_go_pr_wh/bush

WASHINGTON - A day after a Pentagon report described spreading sectarian violence and increasingly complex security problems in Iraq, President Bush painted a rosier picture. "Our commanders and diplomats on the ground believe that Iraq has not descended into a civil war," Bush said Saturday in his weekly radio address. "They report that only a small number of Iraqis are engaged in sectarian violence, while the overwhelming majority want peace and a normal life in a unified country."

The president acknowledged "a bloody campaign of sectarian violence" and the "difficult and dangerous" work of trying to end it.

On Friday, the Pentagon reported that death squads increasingly targeting mainly Iraqi civilians heighten the risk of civil war. The report, the latest in a series required by Congress, also said the Sunni-led insurgency "remains potent and viable."

"Conditions that could lead to civil war exist in Iraq, specifically in and around Baghdad, and concern about civil war within the Iraqi civilian population has increased in recent months," the report said.

<snip>

But Bush, repeating nearly word-for-word the message of a speech earlier this week in Salt Lake City, said, "The security of the civilized world depends on victory in the war on terror, and that depends on victory in Iraq, so America will not leave until victory is achieved."

[Mark E. Smith]

1. Whatever, George.

Like anything you say means anything.

[wellst0nev0ter]

17. Or "Says The Guy Who's Less Popular Than Gay Marriage"

whatta mook.

[Tellurian]

2. Maybe 'Bo' Bush isn't getting the Truth from intelligence..

I sort of like the tag "BO"...like Bo Bice, It becomes Porgie--

[NYC]

11. What does "Bo" mean?

I have no idea.

Thanks in advance.

[filer]

3. The security of the civilized world...depends on victory in Iraq.

So, by God, we're going to stay there come hell or high water, until we win! The "civilized world" is counting on us.

[Tellurian]

5. Wait until BO finds out he was LIED to...hee!

heads will roll..

hook up, BO...Cheney's inviting you ona hunting trip next month..sez, "he wants some upland game"-
That could be code for you, BO...

[NJCher]

4. President Opposite Speaks

Iraq has fallen into a civil war.




Cher

[Tellurian]

7. BO is going to be plenty PO'd cause no one told him! n/t

[pinto]

6. OK, George. Let's just call it "partition" and move on to Plan B.

There is a Plan B, isn't there, George? George?

[indepat]

8. "A bloody campaign of sectarian violence is not civil war: every thinking

person in the world could see this coming so the question is "are any neocons a thinking person?"

[Tellurian]

9. This new movie coming out of the UK says: Bush Whacked!

I think Cheney could be motivated, if he is not already part and parcel
of a plot to take over the Presidency.

strange..this. notice the silence from the Republicons?

[uppityperson]

10. NOT descended or fallen, but moved straight forward into civil war

He is right again, see? And besides, 2 sides have not declared "war", so it can't be war yet. :sarcasm:

[Ilsa]

12. Next week's Saturday radio address: "Iraq has fallen into civil war." nt

[badgervan]

13. What a Tool

I propose a basic set of I.Q. and psychological tests to be administered to every future serious candidate for the House, Senate, President and Vice-Prez. What is happening to our country right now should never, ever have a chance in hell to happen again. We have a stubborn religious zealot, who scorns the educated, running the United States right into the ground. What a despicable tool this small, small man is.

[TexasLawyer]

14. catapulting the propaganda

"In my line of work you gotta keep repeating things over and over and over again for the truth to sink in, to kinda catapult the propaganda."

- Dubya, May 24, 2005

[truthisfreedom]

15. "has not descended into civil war" is just weasel-wording. he didn't say

they weren't engaged in civil war... he didn't say it hasn't broken out... he just said the entire country hasn't descended into civil war. this administration creates no benchmarks, no defined points for anything negative. they always create these fake points for things that support their terrifying campaigns, however... like "mission accomplished" and all the other nonsense bush spews.

their MO is lie, and then lie again, and then lie louder, and they don't seem to care that everyone notices it's a complete and total lie. it's kinda like someone insisting that there is a Santa Claus, and then insisting that there are flying reindeer, and denying that all attempts to prove this are utter failures. it's a myth thing. bush has to say this stuff so his followers will believe that HE believes it... yet we all know that he neither believes it nor is it true. i think the whole country is so embarrassed by the situation that we don't complain too loudly for fear of drawing more international attention to the sorry state we're in!

[daleo]

16. One side doesn't have blue uniforms and the other grey uniforms

Plus, they don't have muskets and mini-balls. Hence, Bush thinks it can't be a civil war.

[minnesota_liberal]

20. You're right, but there's also the difference in battlefield tactics

Having not seen any pictures of soldiers standing in ranks, firing rifles at the opposition, the president can only conclude that no civil war exists.

[krispos42]

18. Bush: The NEW Iraqi Information Minister

Which one did Bush say, and which one did the Iraqi Information Minister say?

"My feelings - as usual - we will slaughter them all"

"Our initial assessment is that they will all die"

"No I am not scared, and neither should you be!"

"Be assured. Baghdad is safe, protected"

"Who are in control, they are not in control of anything - they don't even control themselves!"

"I can assure you that those villains will recognize, will discover in appropriate time in the future how stupid they are and how they are pretending things which have never taken place."

"The American press is all about lies! All they tell is lies, lies and more lies!"

"I have detailed information about the situation...which completely proves that what they allege are illusions . . . They lie every day."

"blood-sucking bastards"

Of US troops: "They are most welcome. We will butcher them."

"We are in control. They are in a state of hysteria. Losers, they think that by killing civilians and trying to distort the feelings of the people they will win. I think they will not win, those bastards."

“We have placed them in a quagmire from which they can never emerge except dead”

"I speak better English than this villain Bush"

"These cowards have no morals. They have no shame about lying"

"They are like a snake and we are going to cut it in pieces."

"They do not even have control over themselves! Do not believe them!"

"Faltering forces of infidels cannot just enter a country of 26 million people and lay besiege to them! They are the ones who will find themselves under siege. Therefore, in reality whatever this miserable Rumsfeld has been saying, he was talking about his own forces. Now even the American command is under siege."

"Our estimates are that none of them will come out alive unless they surrender to us quickly."

"We're giving them a real lesson today. Heavy doesn't accurately describe the level of casualties we have inflicted."

"The situation is excellent, they are going to try to approach Baghdad...and I believe their grave will be there."

"Please, please! The Americans are relying on what I called yesterday a desperate and stupid method."

"We went into the airport and crushed them, we cleaned the WHOOOLE place out, they were slaughtered"

"Just look carefully, I only want you to look carefully. Do not repeat the lies of liars. Do not become like them. Once again, I blame al-Jazeera before it ascertains what takes place. Please, make sure of what you say and do not play such a role."

"They (the U.S.) are deceiving their soldiers and their officers that aggressing against Iraq and invading Iraq will be like a picnic. This is a very stupid lie they are telling their soldiers, what they are facing is a definite death."

"I can assure you that those villains will recognize, will discover in appropriate time in the future how stupid they are and how they are pretending things which have never taken place"

"Iraqi fighters in Umm Qasr are giving the hordes of American and Brtish mercenaries the taste of definite death. We have drawn them into a quagmire and they will never get out of it."

"We're going to drag the drunken junkie nose of Bush through Iraq's desert, him and his follower dog Blair...There are 26 million Saddams in Iraq"

"Bush is a very stupid man. The American people are not stupid, they are very clever. I can't understand how such clever people came to elect such a stupid president."

"Bush doesn't even know if Spain is a republic or a kingdom, how can they follow this man?"

Any apparent American gains, he said, were a cunning ploy by the Iraqis to lure the enemy into a trap. "Our armed forces, according to their tactics, are leaving the way open"

"After we finish defeating all of those animals we will disclose that with facts and figures."

"This criminal (Bush) in the White House is a stupid criminal"

On U.S. General Richard Myers: "He must be crazy". His reports are "basic propaganda".

"Iraqi forces are still in control of the city, and they are engaging in an attrition war with the enemy"

"Americans are now in disarray"

"They will try to enter Baghdad, and I think this is where their graveyard will be."

"Iraq will spread them even more and chop them up."

"They are achieving nothing; they are suffering from casualties. Those casualties are increasing, not decreasing."

"Fight them everywhere. Don't give them a chance to breathe until they withdraw and retreat."

"The criminals will be humiliated... To hurt the enemy more, raise the level of your attacks."

"I can assure you that those villains will recognize, will discover in appropriate time in the future, how stupid they are and how they are pretending things which have never taken place"

"We are winning!"

Ha! Gotcha! Iraqi Informaiton Minister Muhammed Saeed al-Sahaf, better known as "Baghdad Bob" or "Comical Ali", said every single one of these things. Some of them are rather prophetic, aren't they? And the fact that some of them could easily be by Bush tells you where he is in the propoganda war!

You can see the full text at http://www.welovetheiraqiinformationminister.com/

and read about Baghdad Bob at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muhammed_Saeed_al-Sahaf

[shanti]

19. up is down, left is right

moving right along.... :eyes:

[ShortnFiery]

21. We all KNOW that "Civil War" has been ongoing since June 06 :( n/t

[bluedog]

22. *IF the stakes in Iraq are as high as *

*****think about this.where is the sacrifice of the American people....where is the draft........why are the rich and business still getting big tax breaks.on the backs of the average American worker.............**********************************(bluedog)


If Bush really believes the stakes in Iraq are as high as they were in World War II,

he should mobilize the nation and call for sacrifice.

He should institute a military draft and repeal tax cuts to pay for the long and costly struggle against Islamic terrorists.

And he should replace Rumsfeld with a defense secretary who is competent in the business of waging war.

http://www.sptimes.com/2006/09/03/Columns/Bush_fearmongering_on.shtml

[Thor_MN]

23. No, Trelaine.