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ECH1969 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-01-06 12:02 PM
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Highly enriched uranium found in Iran
The International Atomic Energy Agency told the U.N. Security Council its inspectors have found new traces of enriched uranium in Iran.

The discovery marked the third instance that highly enriched uranium was found at an Iranian facility, but the IAEA said the nuclear fingerprint on the new discovery does not match that found on earlier samples, which the agency had concluded came from contaminated equipment from Pakistan, The New York Times reported Friday.

The 6-page IAEA report did not identify where the uranium might have originated or whether it was connected to a secret nuclear program in Iran. The country has insisted that its nuclear program is aimed only at producing energy, a task that would use uranium enriched at much lower levels than that found by the IAEA inspectors.

http://upi.com/NewsTrack/view.php?StoryID=20060901-070212-4100r
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eccles12 Donating Member (385 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-01-06 12:07 PM
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1. So what? You can also find it in Pakistan, India, Israel, the UK and the
US, China, Russia. Why shouldn't Iran be allowed to develop their nuclear technology? With every nation surrounding them, threatening them they need all the weapons they can get.
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goaalfred Donating Member (1 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-01-06 12:20 PM
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2. Nuclear Iran?
You ask why. Because Iran has vowed to destroy Israel. That's why.
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thoughtanarchist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-01-06 12:32 PM
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4. Can you quote that "vow"?
I've heard conflicting reports on this...

I'll concede that threatening language was used toward Israel, but * has used threatening language against N Korea, Iran, and Venezuela (and vice versa) and all these nations are still on the map (including the USA).

There was once a time that strong rhetoric was just rhetoric -- a part of diplomacy.

If strong language is now just cause for use of military force, why is K.J. Il still in power?
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-01-06 12:34 PM
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5. When was the last time Iran invaded another country?
Because Israel just did a few weeks ago and they've got nukes.
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mom cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-02-06 06:21 AM
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8. Bingo!
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creeksneakers2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-02-06 09:34 AM
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10. The Iran/Iraq war in the 80s n/t
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Iceburg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-02-06 10:54 AM
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12. False. Iraq invaded Iran on September 22, 1980 n/t
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CollegeDUer Donating Member (452 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-02-06 02:01 PM
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14. Iraq was the aggressor, a fact the white house didn't want to acknowledge
Because to the Reaganites, Saddam was a nice secularlist out to make peace in the middle east>
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creeksneakers2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-02-06 02:20 PM
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18. Iraq invaded
because Iran was stirring up revolution in Iraq's Shi'ite South. I believe some of the war was fought on Iraqi soil too.
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CollegeDUer Donating Member (452 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-02-06 02:26 PM
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19. Well now you're using the Reaganite lies my friend
I didn't know you were such a fan of the RW's spin: evil Iranian aggressors and innocent iraqi self-defenders (that is until they invaded KUWAIT which was TOTALLY unprovoked...) :::sarcasm:::
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The Roux Comes First Donating Member (182 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-04-06 12:18 AM
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24. Where, as I understand it, we were arming and funding
both sides. What Good Guys we have been! Now we want to disclaim any responsibility for any of this crap. Bush 1 was almost certainly involved in clandestine funding.
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ronnie624 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-01-06 12:46 PM
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No such vow was made by Iran.
Edited on Fri Sep-01-06 12:53 PM by ronnie624
The original claim, equally false, is that Mahmoud Ahmadinejad said Israel should be "wiped off the map". He was, in fact, quoting another and the translation by western media sources was inaccurate, including the original quote by Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini.
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oblivious Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-02-06 07:03 AM
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9. Yes, I'm really getting sick of the unrelenting propaganda here.
It's a flat-out lie that gets repeated on every thread about Iran.

Just like before the Iraq attack. The lies and propaganda were all over the headlines so that the ordinary person just assumed them to be true. That's how they got over 70% poll results in favour of war.
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ronnie624 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-02-06 11:58 PM
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20. Yes.
The demonization of Iran and its government serves only to manufacture support for the planned attacks against the country. Many, who do not necessarily support war with Iran, seem completely oblivious to the aid they render to that end, perfectly happy to spread the hateful memes far and wide.

Too bad these dupes are too ignorant and misinformed to realize that our interventions in the affairs of other countries does little more than create the very extremism that gives them an excuse to vent their bigotry.
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Lerkfish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-01-06 12:46 PM
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6. and then why does Isreal have nukes?
does that mean its because they want to destroy someone else? Or maybe that they don't want to be destroyed themselves.

Iran is not stupid. They know Bushco wants to regime change them like they did afghanistan and Iraq, and we see what a wondeful thing we did for both those countries. They also know we deal diplomatically with N. Korea because they ALREADY have nukes, but we regime changed Iraq because they might get nukes someday.

what's the lesson there? Better get nukes as soon as possible or be regime changed.
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shadowknows69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-02-06 10:20 AM
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11. So when Iran gets its first nuke, 8 years from now
Israel will still have hundreds more. Let them fight Iran.
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newyawker99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-02-06 01:54 PM
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13. Hi goaalfred!!
Welcome to DU!! :toast:
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Andrushka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-03-06 08:25 PM
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21. Garbage
"Because Iran has vowed to destroy Israel."

Proof of this claim?
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-03-06 08:36 PM
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23. Who cares?
Bibi Netanyahu, Israel's PM in waiting, is travelling to the US to meet with his pal Dick Cheney to discuss plans for war on Iran. Considering the disaster that we have in Iraq, courtesy of the American neocons and their collaborators in the Israel Lobby, the last thing we need is another war.

Americans should not die to keep Israel safe, or to protect our oil interests in the Middle East!
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Joe Bacon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-04-06 01:14 AM
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25. Sadly, Republicans want to bring on Armageddon
They really believe that insane book of fairy tales. Hagee and his TV Preachers are pushing Bush to nuke Iran for Israel. They are in for the shock of their lives when Israel gets counter-nuked and Jesus pulls a no-show...
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gorbal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-01-06 12:26 PM
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3. So that's were them "weapons of mass destruction" be hiding
Oh golly gee willikers we've been playing gi joe in the wrong sandbox. (sarcasm)
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ConcernedCanuk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-01-06 02:23 PM
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7. "we've been playing gi joe in the wrong sandbox" - yuppers
.
.
.

and not just Iraq and Afghanistan

Korea, Vietnam, and too many others . .

Trillions wasted on massacre

in countries that are/were of no threat to the USA

while the USA's own citizens languish in poverty, and suffering for lack of health care

"USA nomba one"

yeah . . .

right
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krispos42 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-02-06 02:08 PM
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15. Has the world forgotten that Iran is a sovergn nation?
They do have a right to do this.

Unless they violated the non-proliferation treaty, which is I guess what everybody is trying to figure out, then at soem point the world has to stop throwing a tantrum. Expecially Bush.

The way to deal with this is through talk. Stop scaring the Iranian people witless. Stop forcing them into the arms of anybody who says they will protect them. Get on their good side. Swamp them with Western culture.

And if later on there has to be a tragic accident at a uranium enrichment facility, then so be it.
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Sinti Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-02-06 02:08 PM
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16. I wonder if they can determine the origin of the uranium and just aren't
Edited on Sat Sep-02-06 02:09 PM by Sinti
saying, or if it's some kind of brand new "strain". Hmmm.... AQ Khan's friends maybe...
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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-02-06 02:13 PM
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17. Neither the original NYT article nor this Moonie summary make clear
that the IAEA report (not even cited by name) has limited circulation, so the actual source or sources for the asserted "discovery of particles of highly enriched uranium on a container at a waste storage facility" are anonymous, which may merely mean Bolton's crowd is spinning heavily.

The NYT article does make clear that previous HEU trace contamination originated outside Iran and that Iran has very limited enrichment capacity.

Highly Enriched Uranium Found at Iranian Plant
By ELAINE SCIOLINO
Published: September 1, 2006
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/09/01/world/middleeast/01vienna.html?hp&ex=1157083200&en=0fc5e91de143e3ad&ei=5094&partner=homepage
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TroglodyteScholar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-03-06 08:26 PM
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22. ATTACK!!!!!!!111 n/t
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