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Rose Siding Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-30-06 12:13 AM
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Carter Agrees to Hold Talks With Khatami
Ex-President of Iran to Visit U.S. Amid Tensions Over Tehran's Nuclear Program

By Robin Wright
Washington Post Staff Writer
Wednesday, August 30, 2006; Page A13

For an event that would turn a page in American history, former president Jimmy Carter has agreed in principle to host former Iranian president Mohammad Khatami for talks during his visit to the United States starting this week.....

Iranians made the overture for the meeting, and the Carter Center in Atlanta is working on the possible timing, said Phil Wise, the former president's aide.
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"Mr. Khatami is free to meet with who he chooses and is able to speak freely in the United States -- the very freedoms that do not exist in Iran," a White House official said on the condition of anonymity.

"We expect that Khatami will face tough questions from his audience in the United States about the past and present behavior of the Iranian regime, especially with respect to human rights violations that occurred during his presidency," the official added.
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"Carter, who has every reason to be angry about the way in which the Iranian revolution undid his presidency over the hostage affair, is willing to meet, with no hesitation, a person who was president of the Islamic republic and who has never disavowed Ayatollah Khomeini's actions when he was supreme leader," said William Quandt, a national security staffer in charge of the Middle East during the Carter administration.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/08/29/AR2006082901412.html
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-30-06 12:18 AM
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1. The White House shouldn't be lecturing us about freedom of speech
The only freedom the White House believes in is the freedom to rape and pillage the world.
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kineneb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-30-06 12:26 AM
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2. such a wonderful, decent man- Carter
may cooler heads prevail
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Drum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-30-06 12:29 AM
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3. Everlasting kudos to Jimmy Carter!
Now watch for the denial of Khatami's visa :(
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-30-06 01:08 AM
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4. he is a disciple of christ
"But I say to you, love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, so that you may be sons of your Father who is in heaven; for He causes His sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sends rain on the righteous and the unrighteous"
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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-30-06 01:10 AM
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5. our President
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Sherman A1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-30-06 03:26 AM
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6. Jimmy Carter is truly a classy guy
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scarletwoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-30-06 04:55 PM
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7. Well, Carter DOES have some karma to clean up.
While I appreciate and respect the work that Jimmy Carter has engaged in as an ex-president, I am not willing to forget that it was during his administration that the Indonesian massacre in East Timor was actively abetted by increasing U.S. arms sales to the Suharto regime.

In late 1977, when Indonesia was actually running out of military equipment, his (Carter's) administration authorized a dramatic increase in arms sales to Jakarta. And over the next several months, the Carter White House approved sales of fighter jets and ground-attack bombers to Indonesia's Suharto regime, whose military employed them in East Timor to bomb and napalm the population into submission. An Australian parliamentary commission would later characterize the period as one of "indiscriminate killing on a scale unprecedented in post-World War II history."

From: Beyond the Myth -- Remembering Jimmy Carter, the President

http://www.dissidentvoice.org/Articles/Nevins_Carter.htm



Please read the whole piece for more eye-opening information about Carter administration policies regarding El Salvador, Chile, and the Shah of Iran, among other authoritarian regimes.

If you are not familiar with the history of Indonesia's genocidal war in East Timor, here's some further information:

http://www.mega.nu/ampp/nunestimor.html

<snip>

In the last months of 1977, Indonesia intensified its assault. This was made possible by the thoughtful American assistance.

After the invasion in December 1975, armed resistance prevented the Indonesian armed forces from gaining control over the country until 1979. Indonesia's campaign of encirclement and annihilation (1977-1979) achieved its goal due to substantial supplies from the US in 1976 and 1977 of OV10-Broncos, Lockheed C-130 transport planes, 45 Cadillac Cage V-150 commando armoured vehicles equipped with machine-guns, mortar and cannon launchers and a huge quantity of rifles, machine-gun, pistols and communications equipment. This enabled the invaders to devastate areas where the armed resistance and most of the population were holding out. There were huge casualties (an estimated 200,000 deaths in a population of 700,000), cause by heavy bombing and war-related famine and disease. This was followed by the enforced re-settlement of most surviving Timorese in strategic settlements under army control <TAPOL91>.

Father Leoneto Vieira do Rego, a Portuguese priest who spent 3 years in the mountains of East Timor, before surrendering to Indonesia in January 1979, estimated that over 200,000 people had been killed during the first 4 years of the war <_Boston Globe_, January 20, 1980; Chomsky82>. He added that:

The second phase of the bombing was late 1977 to early 1979, with modern aircraft. This was the firebombing phase of the bombing. Even up to this time, people could still live. The genocide and starvation was the result of the full-scale incendiary bombing.

To the _Christian Science Monitor_ (Dec. 17, 1979), he said:

The Indonesians attacked relentlessly with infantry and with U.S.-supplied armed reconnaissance planes known as the OV-10 (Bronco) <Chomsky82>.


As far as I'm concerned, President Carter has a lot of past sins to make up for. So, good for him to be willing to engage with Khatami -- I'm all for anything he does to redeem his past failures and hypocisies.

sw
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ECH1969 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-30-06 05:22 PM
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8. Carter Agrees to Hold Talks With Khatami
Ex-President of Iran to Visit U.S. Amid Tensions Over Tehran's Nuclear Program

For an event that would turn a page in American history, former president Jimmy Carter has agreed in principle to host former Iranian president Mohammad Khatami for talks during his visit to the United States starting this week.

Carter's term as president was dominated by the rupture in relations after the 1979 Iranian revolution and the takeover of the U.S. Embassy in Tehran, where 52 Americans were held hostage for 444 days until the day he left office.

Despite mounting tensions between Washington and Tehran over the latter's nuclear program, the Bush administration issued a visa for Khatami yesterday, as well as for about a dozen family and staff members, for a visit lasting about two weeks, the State Department confirmed. Khatami is expected to arrive in the United States tomorrow.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/08/29/AR2006082901412.html?nav=rss_world
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LSparkle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-30-06 05:22 PM
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9. I think this is a good idea, but the FauxHeads will cry treason
I can just hear it now ... Pass me the Excedrin.
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killbotfactory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-30-06 05:22 PM
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11. They will cry "TREASON! APPEASEMENT! TERRORIST-CODDLER!"
While ignoring that the former Iranian president Carter will be talking to was a somewhat pro-west reformer.
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Dr.Phool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-30-06 05:22 PM
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10. Good. It's long past due for "The Adults" to take charge.
I'm sure the chimp, with his massive ego, will have a shit fit, but any talks are a step in the right direction.
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LSparkle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-30-06 05:22 PM
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12. Exactly! I think WE (the "reality-based community") ought to set up
a "shadow government." Negotiate directly with heads of state if our Chimperor N Thief and his gang won't. Show the world that there are still PATRIOTS left in this country (and in high enough places to be effective) who will reach out and work for peace.
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pinto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-30-06 05:22 PM
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13. Good decision, imo, despite the political brouhaha sure to ensue
Another snip, from a Carter spokesman:

"President Carter, in his role since leaving the White House, has made his office and services and center available to basically anybody who wants to talk. He believes that it is much better to be talking to people who you have problems with than not to, and that's the approach he takes now," Wise said. "I can confirm that President Carter is open to a meeting if the former president of Iran would like to have one."

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RaRa Donating Member (705 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-30-06 05:22 PM
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14. Once again, a real grownup does the Chimp's job eom
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mac56 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-30-06 06:24 PM
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15. A real President, acting Presidential.
Something we haven't seen for awhile.
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newscott Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-30-06 07:28 PM
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16. I hope he asks him how Bush I set up the Iran/Contra deal.
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chat_noir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-31-06 09:22 AM
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17. Jimmy Carter, Nobel Peace Prize


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