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Judi Lynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-29-06 10:19 PM Original message |
Caracas takes golf courses for housing |
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Redstone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-29-06 10:21 PM Response to Original message |
1. Kind the opposite of how we do it here,yes? |
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robinlynne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-29-06 10:36 PM Response to Original message |
2. Now that's what eminent domain was meant to do! I'm glad there is a |
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Casablanca (549 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-31-06 12:29 PM Response to Reply #2 |
106. Hugo has really crossed the line now |
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Kickoutthejams23 (354 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-29-06 10:42 PM Response to Original message |
3. Something about this is bad. |
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Judi Lynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-29-06 10:45 PM Response to Reply #3 |
6. Why don't you ponder on it for a moment and tell DU'ers what it is? |
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Kickoutthejams23 (354 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-29-06 11:17 PM Response to Reply #6 |
16. I'm against Eminent Domain for sports stadiums as well |
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countingbluecars (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-29-06 11:25 PM Response to Reply #16 |
17. It's a sign of an "out of control ego" |
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Kickoutthejams23 (354 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-29-06 11:32 PM Response to Reply #17 |
18. No I stick by my post. |
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IndianaGreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-29-06 11:58 PM Response to Reply #18 |
21. That's what Faux News says about Chavez, comparing him to Mugabe |
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Judi Lynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-30-06 12:07 AM Response to Reply #21 |
22. Oh, YEAH! You're so right. I had forgotten about that small detail. |
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Kickoutthejams23 (354 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-30-06 12:29 AM Response to Reply #21 |
25. I don't watch faux news so I really had no idea. |
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earth mom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-30-06 12:13 AM Response to Reply #18 |
23. That's a reich wing viewpoint you've got there. |
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LostinVA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-30-06 06:24 AM Response to Reply #18 |
30. Chavez is nothing like Mugabe |
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Tesha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-30-06 07:06 AM Response to Reply #18 |
33. Yeah -- eventually the poor end up eating the rich, right? |
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Judi Lynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-29-06 11:35 PM Response to Reply #17 |
19. This thread has been visited by greatness! |
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Judi Lynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-29-06 11:54 PM Response to Reply #16 |
20. Sorry, I don't see any information on your links concerning private |
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Kickoutthejams23 (354 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-30-06 12:35 AM Response to Reply #20 |
26. Um land turned into Golf Courses |
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Judi Lynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-30-06 12:43 AM Response to Reply #26 |
27. That's quite the reach, isn't it? The money GOES to the people. |
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Kickoutthejams23 (354 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-30-06 12:57 AM Response to Reply #27 |
28. I'm not attacking Cuba and Vietnam |
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LostinVA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-30-06 06:22 AM Response to Reply #16 |
29. If it wasn't for IKEA, I wouldn't be able to afford decent furniture |
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alcibiades_mystery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-30-06 05:47 PM Response to Reply #16 |
71. Maybe WHY it's done is not as important as results |
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toopers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-31-06 01:08 PM Response to Reply #6 |
111. Anytime you take private property from one person . . . |
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IndianaGreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-29-06 10:59 PM Response to Reply #3 |
10. The best lands were stolen by the rich, and now they bitch? |
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killbotfactory (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-30-06 03:50 PM Response to Reply #3 |
54. They can have golf courses in the city when people stop living in shacks |
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WhiteTara (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-30-06 06:27 PM Response to Reply #3 |
75. don't bring the dirty poor in my nice clean |
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Bozita (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-29-06 10:43 PM Response to Original message |
4. Now, THAT'LL get Bush's attention! |
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Cassandra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-29-06 10:44 PM Response to Original message |
5. Good for them but... |
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Judi Lynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-29-06 11:00 PM Response to Reply #5 |
11. DU'ers got a treat several months ago when a DU'er returned from |
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Judi Lynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-29-06 11:14 PM Response to Reply #11 |
13. More photos of Caracas urban agriculture, food for the poor: |
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IndianaGreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-29-06 11:16 PM Response to Reply #11 |
14. It was Cuba that took the lead in organic gardening under Raul Castro's |
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Judi Lynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-30-06 11:41 AM Response to Reply #14 |
45. Forgot to thank you last night after reading your post for the information |
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Aridane (13 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-30-06 06:32 AM Response to Reply #11 |
31. I was in Venezuela last year |
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Judi Lynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-30-06 12:03 PM Response to Reply #31 |
46. My gosh! I just looked up the towns you mentioned, & they're BEAUTIFUL. |
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Mark E. Smith (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-29-06 10:52 PM Response to Original message |
7. One of the few things Imus ever said that didn't make me throw up |
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cigsandcoffee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-29-06 10:52 PM Response to Original message |
8. Eminent Domain is still bad law. |
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brokensymmetry (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-29-06 11:17 PM Response to Reply #8 |
15. I agree. |
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RangerSmith (488 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-30-06 07:16 AM Response to Reply #8 |
34. It really shows |
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alarimer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-30-06 07:46 AM Response to Reply #8 |
35. But it happens here ALL the time |
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gorbal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-30-06 08:20 AM Response to Reply #35 |
37. Exactly |
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brokensymmetry (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-30-06 09:29 AM Response to Reply #35 |
41. Yes, it happens here. |
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IndianaGreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-29-06 10:55 PM Response to Original message |
9. Your pictures of the country club vs the barrio club |
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petronius (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-29-06 11:06 PM Response to Original message |
12. I've always thought that eminent domain should always be a last resort, |
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Judi Lynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-30-06 12:26 AM Response to Original message |
24. Opposition Paper: Attorney General backs potential seizure of golf course |
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Scurrilous (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-30-06 06:37 AM Response to Original message |
32. Chavez... |
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hogwyld (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-30-06 07:59 AM Response to Reply #32 |
36. Now, if he would only seize their mansions |
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atomicdawg38 (80 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-30-06 08:42 AM Response to Reply #36 |
38. U realize |
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XemaSab (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-30-06 09:13 AM Response to Reply #38 |
39. What a cynical view of the wealthy of the world, including Americans! |
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RangerSmith (488 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-30-06 10:54 AM Response to Reply #39 |
44. No, you don't get it... it has nothing to do with Golf Courses for play |
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XemaSab (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-31-06 12:48 AM Response to Reply #44 |
85. I see where you're coming from |
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Judi Lynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-31-06 04:23 AM Response to Reply #85 |
88. Some people through ignorance (or deliberation) will misrepresent |
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XemaSab (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-31-06 08:52 AM Response to Reply #88 |
96. Capitalists are still uncomfortable with eminent domain |
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RangerSmith (488 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-31-06 11:25 AM Response to Reply #88 |
99. hypocrisy in action |
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Judi Lynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-31-06 11:45 AM Response to Reply #99 |
101. No whining here. You're lying about that. |
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RangerSmith (488 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-31-06 12:22 PM Response to Reply #101 |
105. "us"?? |
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hogwyld (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-30-06 09:15 AM Response to Reply #38 |
40. That's exactly what Venezuela needs! |
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The2ndWheel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-30-06 09:44 AM Response to Original message |
42. Are they rebuilding those broken down homes? |
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Judi Lynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-30-06 12:11 PM Response to Reply #42 |
47. Of COURSE they're rebuilding them! I've seen photos of neighborhood |
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The2ndWheel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-31-06 12:07 PM Response to Reply #47 |
103. Why take the golf course then? nt |
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Judi Lynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-31-06 12:19 PM Response to Reply #103 |
104. Let's consider using that fine brain Gawd gave you. |
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The2ndWheel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-31-06 12:34 PM Response to Reply #104 |
107. Why do they need more housing? |
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Judi Lynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-30-06 12:24 PM Response to Reply #42 |
48. I took the liberty of going to look for a photo for you: |
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CollegeDUer (452 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-30-06 10:37 AM Response to Original message |
43. WE MUST INVADE VENEZUELA NOW |
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KamaAina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-30-06 01:14 PM Response to Original message |
49. "Golf Courses for the Homeless": a classic Carlin routine come to life |
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Judi Lynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-30-06 02:14 PM Response to Original message |
50. Update: Golf between rich and poor |
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YankeyMCC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-30-06 02:20 PM Response to Original message |
51. LoL! |
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truthisfreedom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-30-06 02:25 PM Response to Original message |
52. certainly is a way of "evening the playing field" as it were. i wonder |
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Bacchus39 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-30-06 03:48 PM Response to Original message |
53. the National Government now does NOT support the Caracas mayor |
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PeaceProgProsp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-30-06 03:57 PM Response to Reply #53 |
55. Real Chavezphiles would remember that after the floods in '92 |
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Bacchus39 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-30-06 04:06 PM Response to Reply #55 |
56. do you mean the floods of 1999?? |
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PeaceProgProsp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-30-06 04:11 PM Response to Reply #56 |
57. Typo. Yes. '99. |
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Bacchus39 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-30-06 04:26 PM Response to Reply #57 |
60. I've seen before the floods, I've seen after the floods |
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PeaceProgProsp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-30-06 05:21 PM Response to Reply #60 |
68. OK. But back to the original point. |
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Bacchus39 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-30-06 07:47 PM Response to Reply #68 |
79. I think some read what they want to read |
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geek tragedy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-30-06 04:14 PM Response to Original message |
58. This is actually kind of funny. |
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sofa king (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-30-06 04:24 PM Response to Original message |
59. I golfed at the Macuto public course. |
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Judi Lynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-30-06 05:04 PM Response to Reply #59 |
67. Wonderful post, sofa king! We never would have heard any of this |
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sofa king (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-31-06 02:15 AM Response to Reply #67 |
86. You're very welcome. |
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Judi Lynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-31-06 04:17 AM Response to Reply #86 |
87. Wonderful information from your post! Exceptionally interesting. |
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sofa king (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-31-06 05:25 AM Response to Reply #87 |
91. Holy cow! I never heard about that! |
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Judi Lynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-31-06 05:57 AM Response to Reply #91 |
93. Once you start researching it, it will become a story you want to know |
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sofa king (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-31-06 05:25 AM Response to Reply #87 |
92. Oops. Duplicate post. |
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Rex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-30-06 04:27 PM Response to Original message |
61. No wonder America hates Hugo Chavez |
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Bacchus39 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-30-06 04:30 PM Response to Reply #61 |
62. or maybe not?? |
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Rex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-30-06 04:33 PM Response to Reply #62 |
63. Well then that is obvious proof he is in with the Establishment! |
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Bacchus39 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-30-06 04:37 PM Response to Reply #63 |
64. proof that some sanity remains in Ven. maybe |
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Rex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-30-06 04:41 PM Response to Reply #64 |
65. What do you think about Eminent Domain in America? |
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Bacchus39 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-30-06 04:54 PM Response to Reply #65 |
66. I think it is useful but within limits |
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MikeyJones (212 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-30-06 05:32 PM Response to Original message |
69. Bad move |
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Judi Lynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-30-06 05:45 PM Response to Reply #69 |
70. That land would not be close to their jobs, schools, medical facilities |
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MikeyJones (212 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-30-06 05:59 PM Response to Reply #70 |
72. It doesn't matter, the seizure of private property solves nothing nt |
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Judi Lynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-30-06 06:13 PM Response to Reply #72 |
73. It solves a horrendous problem, concerning the safety, and well being |
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MikeyJones (212 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-31-06 08:43 PM Response to Reply #73 |
113. I'll say it again, seizing property from the rich won't solve the problem |
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jsamuel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-30-06 06:23 PM Response to Original message |
74. I am sure destroying the courses is not the only way to bring in affordabl |
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Ka hrnt (235 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-30-06 09:36 PM Response to Reply #74 |
81. I agree. |
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Porcupine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-30-06 09:53 PM Response to Reply #74 |
82. Nope. It's the most FUN way to build affordable housing. |
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Ka hrnt (235 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-30-06 11:57 PM Response to Reply #82 |
83. Yikes. |
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Solon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-31-06 04:31 AM Response to Reply #83 |
90. In Venezuela, the Middle Class is small... |
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LostinVA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-31-06 06:42 AM Response to Reply #83 |
95. No, middle class folks don't play golf in Venezuela |
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wordpix (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-31-06 09:15 AM Response to Reply #74 |
98. in the US, the price of land on E and W coasts prevents many towns/cities |
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Joanne98 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-30-06 06:31 PM Response to Original message |
76. Gawd Bless Hugo Chavez. A man who knows how to hate them... |
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citizen snips (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-30-06 06:41 PM Response to Original message |
77. I am a golfer. |
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Anakin Skywalker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-30-06 06:48 PM Response to Original message |
78. Would Like to See This Here, Especially With |
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drfresh (424 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-31-06 12:09 AM Response to Reply #78 |
84. I'd like to see population growth get under control |
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annabanana (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-31-06 06:04 AM Response to Reply #84 |
94. the Fundies in charge will not allow this kind of talk..... n/t |
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Judi Lynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-31-06 04:28 AM Response to Reply #78 |
89. It's been discussed here (the U.S.), quietly, for years and years |
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Eugene (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-30-06 09:20 PM Response to Original message |
80. AP: Venezuela Against Seizing Golf Courses |
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wordpix (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-31-06 09:13 AM Response to Original message |
97. I predict we'll be taking golf courses for farmland if we keep building |
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laureloak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-31-06 11:29 AM Response to Original message |
100. So long tourism $$$$. |
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Judi Lynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-31-06 11:48 AM Response to Reply #100 |
102. They are rebuilding housing in the barrios, which is pointed out in |
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Judi Lynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-31-06 12:44 PM Response to Original message |
108. Ah, ha ha ha ha. This IS a hot one. Update: |
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Codeine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-31-06 12:57 PM Response to Reply #108 |
109. So why does Hugo not support it? |
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Judi Lynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-31-06 01:04 PM Response to Reply #109 |
110. Had you taken time to read the article, you could have saved yourself |
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The2ndWheel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-31-06 01:18 PM Response to Reply #110 |
112. So you'd be alright with not |
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